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My 6206/26 experiment
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Greg, I am so happy that your plan worked out for you and the trust points were loaded exactly 13 months out so you don't have to try a second time.
Your early time stamp and being in the right condo already gave you the edge over someone else who had enough trust points too but the condo placement wouldn't be that crucial for most people if there were more 3 BR units in the trust.
Is there a good supply of 2 BR oceanfront condos already in the trust so other owners can follow your plan with staying in the same condo too?
They would have to be timely and persistent to pull it off too but would save a lot of money and not minding the challenge and uncertainty.
Have a great time in June and meeting Puck in Kauai!
Your early time stamp and being in the right condo already gave you the edge over someone else who had enough trust points too but the condo placement wouldn't be that crucial for most people if there were more 3 BR units in the trust.
Is there a good supply of 2 BR oceanfront condos already in the trust so other owners can follow your plan with staying in the same condo too?
They would have to be timely and persistent to pull it off too but would save a lot of money and not minding the challenge and uncertainty.
Have a great time in June and meeting Puck in Kauai!
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good ol' puck gets his first crack at 6206 in 11 days!!! I went more conventional route...private rental from owner.... used $$$ from ski trip psuedorentals to pay for it!!!
Then off to Kauai on 6/14 to meet Mr. 6206....
Now the Gregster has to purchase the grape for the combined family dinner at beach house 6/18.... I will be the asst. chef at the BBQ.. Gregster is chef in chief...
good ol' puck gets his first crack at 6206 in 11 days!!! I went more conventional route...private rental from owner.... used $$$ from ski trip psuedorentals to pay for it!!!
Then off to Kauai on 6/14 to meet Mr. 6206....
Now the Gregster has to purchase the grape for the combined family dinner at beach house 6/18.... I will be the asst. chef at the BBQ.. Gregster is chef in chief...
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Greg, congratulations. That is outstanding news. All of your hard work and calculations paid off.
Fun stuff!
Mike
Fun stuff!
Mike
I just walked in from work and had to check to see if you got it. Congrats!!! Very excited for you.
Congratulations. I wanted to check earlier but I try to keep myself away from tug when I'm supposed to be working.
Ian
Ian
good morning....
Getting Back to serious issues here...
It seems inevitable that the Gregster will be in 6206 for his new ressie...
Follow the bouncing puck....
All of the 3 bedrooms at MOC L/N towers are fixed week ownership!!!! The only one in Trust is 6206. Since the others are fixed week, the owners should be using them or renting.. Leaving 6206 as only unit open!!!! Doubt fixed wek 3 BR MOC owners are trading in II, however they do get lots of DC points, so it is possible that one of these units was turned in for DC points.. and under MVCD control...
but regardless 6206 has to be open....
Getting Back to serious issues here...
It seems inevitable that the Gregster will be in 6206 for his new ressie...
Follow the bouncing puck....
All of the 3 bedrooms at MOC L/N towers are fixed week ownership!!!! The only one in Trust is 6206. Since the others are fixed week, the owners should be using them or renting.. Leaving 6206 as only unit open!!!! Doubt fixed wek 3 BR MOC owners are trading in II, however they do get lots of DC points, so it is possible that one of these units was turned in for DC points.. and under MVCD control...
but regardless 6206 has to be open....
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I recently read a story about how anticipation of something special is almost as good and sometimes is even better than the real thing because the anticipation is always positive where sometimes the experience comes up short for one reason or another.
This is a good example of this where Greg and many others put some much into a plan that when the plan works its a pretty darn good feelings. Maybe not quite the same as actually experiencing a 3BDRM Maui OF but a very good feeling nonetheless.
This is a good example of this where Greg and many others put some much into a plan that when the plan works its a pretty darn good feelings. Maybe not quite the same as actually experiencing a 3BDRM Maui OF but a very good feeling nonetheless.
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All,
I'm still really happy about this -- interestingly, I got the email and this is an MVC Exchange. Therefore, I can't tell if the underlying unit is sourced from the Trust or whether it was a 3BR that was redeemed by its owner for points. MVC Exchange certainly suggests a redeemed unit.
I hope it is the latter because every 3BR that is available with points increases the probability that I will get a reservation, which is what I believe is the key. Once I have the reservation, I will rely on the combination of 1) happy owner 2) reduced housekeeping burden and 3) early time stamp that will encourage Marriott to leave me in 6206.
This means that I could potentially book a future Week 26 3BR with Elected Points, and will not have to rely on Trust Points. Interesting....
Thanks again for the kind thoughts!
Best,
Greg
I'm still really happy about this -- interestingly, I got the email and this is an MVC Exchange. Therefore, I can't tell if the underlying unit is sourced from the Trust or whether it was a 3BR that was redeemed by its owner for points. MVC Exchange certainly suggests a redeemed unit.
I hope it is the latter because every 3BR that is available with points increases the probability that I will get a reservation, which is what I believe is the key. Once I have the reservation, I will rely on the combination of 1) happy owner 2) reduced housekeeping burden and 3) early time stamp that will encourage Marriott to leave me in 6206.
This means that I could potentially book a future Week 26 3BR with Elected Points, and will not have to rely on Trust Points. Interesting....
Thanks again for the kind thoughts!
Best,
Greg
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Greg...
You will get the 6 day extension every year for the following reasons...
Not many owners sitting around with 10K DC points required to pull this off.
If someone (like myself has the points) not likely to blow them off on just 6 days...only Greg is guaranteed week before...
he has an atomic clock...set for take off at exactly the correct time....
If elected points work..it is even better for shlubs like me... (with orphan poins !!!)
Don't worry Greg..will never compete with you for this
ressie
it's all yours...
will be experiencing 6206 in 10 days...
you know pix are forthcoming with full disclosure and daily check in!!!!
Greg...
You will get the 6 day extension every year for the following reasons...
Not many owners sitting around with 10K DC points required to pull this off.
If someone (like myself has the points) not likely to blow them off on just 6 days...only Greg is guaranteed week before...
he has an atomic clock...set for take off at exactly the correct time....
If elected points work..it is even better for shlubs like me... (with orphan poins !!!)
Don't worry Greg..will never compete with you for this
ressieit's all yours...
will be experiencing 6206 in 10 days...
you know pix are forthcoming with full disclosure and daily check in!!!!
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Hawaii trip coming soon!!!!! Aulani for three days, than Maui Ocean Club for 13 days....looking forward to it!
But updating my thread.....in the end, the 6206 experiment failed. My experiment was to secure a reservation for six nights in a 3BR during Week 26 using points, and then connect it to my owned 3BR fixed week 25, so I could stay the entire time in a single unit, more specifically, 6206.
But....I couldn't get Maui Ocean Club to leave me in 6206 for the continuation of my trip. There is another reservation, pure points, that checks in on Sunday the 28th for 8 nights and one of us would need to move rooms. And the person who will change rooms is me.
At first I was pretty tweaked about this, considering all of the history. I had a lengthy conversation with David Wong about it (who is a stand-up guy, I really like him) and he told that the adjacent guest was similar to me in profile (multi-week MOC owner/early reservation time stamp, but on a single reservation not two reservations) and that there was a very special occasion that was compelling such that he be allowed to stay.
The thing that resonated with me was the special occasion part -- David was very passionate that this was something special and unique that was planned during this guests trip.
And that got me over my being tweaked about my room switch. (and I'm still going to Maui after all.)
I don't know what the special occasion is. But I have a soft spot for veterans, so I'd like to think it is a veteran renewing his vows on July 4th, maybe even a WWII vet. That would be awesome -- I'm not trying to be sarcastic here -- I was bummed about it, and then the thought hit me that maybe it's a veteran celebrating a July 4th wedding anniversary. I'd change rooms for that guy any day, without a second thought. Heck, I'd buy him dinner (now I hope the real reason is not because its some kid's Sweet 16
) Since I'll never know, I'd rather think about the vet.
Meanwhile, David is doing what is possible to try to make my room change as painless as possible and I'm sure he will.
Just closing the loop on this long topic -- but bittersweet ending to the long tale. In my world, fixed weeks > floating weeks > points.
On July 4th, please join me in a toast to the veteran who is renewing his vows (and if you read in the Maui Bugle about a raging birthday party for a Hollywood celebrity, don't tell me about it).
Best,
Greg
Hawaii trip coming soon!!!!! Aulani for three days, than Maui Ocean Club for 13 days....looking forward to it!
But updating my thread.....in the end, the 6206 experiment failed.
My experiment was to secure a reservation for six nights in a 3BR during Week 26 using points, and then connect it to my owned 3BR fixed week 25, so I could stay the entire time in a single unit, more specifically, 6206.But....I couldn't get Maui Ocean Club to leave me in 6206 for the continuation of my trip. There is another reservation, pure points, that checks in on Sunday the 28th for 8 nights and one of us would need to move rooms. And the person who will change rooms is me.
At first I was pretty tweaked about this, considering all of the history. I had a lengthy conversation with David Wong about it (who is a stand-up guy, I really like him) and he told that the adjacent guest was similar to me in profile (multi-week MOC owner/early reservation time stamp, but on a single reservation not two reservations) and that there was a very special occasion that was compelling such that he be allowed to stay.
The thing that resonated with me was the special occasion part -- David was very passionate that this was something special and unique that was planned during this guests trip.
And that got me over my being tweaked about my room switch. (and I'm still going to Maui after all.)
I don't know what the special occasion is. But I have a soft spot for veterans, so I'd like to think it is a veteran renewing his vows on July 4th, maybe even a WWII vet. That would be awesome -- I'm not trying to be sarcastic here -- I was bummed about it, and then the thought hit me that maybe it's a veteran celebrating a July 4th wedding anniversary. I'd change rooms for that guy any day, without a second thought. Heck, I'd buy him dinner (now I hope the real reason is not because its some kid's Sweet 16
) Since I'll never know, I'd rather think about the vet.Meanwhile, David is doing what is possible to try to make my room change as painless as possible and I'm sure he will.
Just closing the loop on this long topic -- but bittersweet ending to the long tale. In my world, fixed weeks > floating weeks > points.
On July 4th, please join me in a toast to the veteran who is renewing his vows (and if you read in the Maui Bugle about a raging birthday party for a Hollywood celebrity, don't tell me about it).
Best,
Greg
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What I'm most impressed with, Greg, is that they were willing to work with you and another owner, leaving you both feeling assured that they're still very concerned with owners' satisfaction.
I'll toast to your veteran celebrating his special anniversary, no problem, but I'll also toast to you getting what you want sooner rather than later. In my view it doesn't matter what they consider worthy of prioritization but it matters very much that they give all owners equal and fair consideration, on a rotating basis if necessary. This experience should put you at or near the top of the list for VIP-of-the-Week, next time.
One positive is that because of the move you'll go into a sparkly clean unit midway through your stay. We do it all the time switching between oceanvista and oceanside units at SurfWatch and believe me, it's a good feeling.
I'll toast to your veteran celebrating his special anniversary, no problem, but I'll also toast to you getting what you want sooner rather than later. In my view it doesn't matter what they consider worthy of prioritization but it matters very much that they give all owners equal and fair consideration, on a rotating basis if necessary. This experience should put you at or near the top of the list for VIP-of-the-Week, next time.
One positive is that because of the move you'll go into a sparkly clean unit midway through your stay. We do it all the time switching between oceanvista and oceanside units at SurfWatch and believe me, it's a good feeling.
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Greg, thanks for the update on how the property has worked with you and the other owner. I am glad to hear things will work out and that you are not upset. We will drink a toast on the 4th to celebrate.
We are not owners at this property. We stayed for the first time in a MM1 oceanfront villa in October last year. It was our first Maui trip. On the last night of our stay I had a freak accident and broke my ankle and sprained the other ankle off path that runs behind all the hotels. We were near the Sheraton. Talk about an ordeal. The Maui ER advised that based on X-rays I would need surgery and recommended I get home to LA quickly to deal with the next steps. The Marriott property was amazing at helping us through the entire ordeal and helping us get us off, safely, early the next morning to the airport. While we will likely never go back to Maui we have fond memories of the trip, the property, and the Marriott staff who are first rate.
We are not owners at this property. We stayed for the first time in a MM1 oceanfront villa in October last year. It was our first Maui trip. On the last night of our stay I had a freak accident and broke my ankle and sprained the other ankle off path that runs behind all the hotels. We were near the Sheraton. Talk about an ordeal. The Maui ER advised that based on X-rays I would need surgery and recommended I get home to LA quickly to deal with the next steps. The Marriott property was amazing at helping us through the entire ordeal and helping us get us off, safely, early the next morning to the airport. While we will likely never go back to Maui we have fond memories of the trip, the property, and the Marriott staff who are first rate.
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Greg reserved his Week 25 which is a fixed Week in Unit 6206; he also reserved the following 6-day interval in the same unit/view type using DC Trust Points. Because he knows that a Week 26/Unit 6206 has been conveyed to the DC Trust, he requested and was hoping that he'd be able to stay in the same unit for the entire 13-night stay. Now for whatever reason Marriott is instead giving the priority placement to a DC Trust Member who reserved the same unit/view type interval with a check-in date one day after (if I'm reading the resort calendar correctly?) Greg's Points reservation. So Greg will be placed in his fixed Week 25/Unit 6206 but will have to move from that unit to another for his subsequent 6-day Points stay.
I think that's it; Greg will correct me if it's wrong.
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We stay multiple weeks (on separate reservations) at many different properties. There are so many variables to staying in the same villa that we sometimes have to move. Most resorts will accommodate you if they can. As in this case, it's sometimes impossible. It's usually a minor inconvenience during a pleasant stay. We will also be at MOC for 4 weeks beginning 6/27. The 4th of July is a lot of fun at this property.
To the OP -- If I were there it would be difficult for me NOT to lurk outside of infamous unit 6206 to see who was given this room.
I'd also be open to having a new experience in whatever room is assigned as long as it has a great ocean view.
I'd also be open to having a new experience in whatever room is assigned as long as it has a great ocean view.
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Thinking about it, it's possible that the other guy is being prioritized because his Points stay will impact Week 27 (Sun-Fri = 6 nights of Week 26 and Sat-Mon = 2 nights of Week 27) while Greg's won't. Maybe all other Week 27 similar fixed view/size units are being used by those Weeks Owners, or, they're moving Greg because it's less of an inconvenience to move him for 6 nights than it would be to move the other guy for 2? Although if that were the case it's easily explained and understood, no reason to not tell Greg outright that's the reason.
Again, if I'm reading the resort calendar incorrectly then none of this makes sense in which case, Greg, you can feel free to slap me upside my head and tell me to stop confusing the issue.
Again, if I'm reading the resort calendar incorrectly then none of this makes sense in which case, Greg, you can feel free to slap me upside my head and tell me to stop confusing the issue.
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Thanks Sue. I should clarify my question: is week 26 also a fixed week? And further, I assume when you say "Greg reserved his Week 25 which is a fixed Week in Unit 6206" that such fixed weeks are also fixed unit?Greg reserved his Week 25 which is a fixed Week in Unit 6206; he also reserved the following 6-day interval in the same unit/view type using DC Trust Points. Because he knows that a Week 26/Unit 6206 has been conveyed to the DC Trust, he requested and was hoping that he'd be able to stay in the same unit for the entire 13-night stay. Now for whatever reason Marriott is instead giving the priority placement to a DC Trust Member who reserved the same unit/view type interval with a check-in date one day after (if I'm reading the resort calendar correctly?) Greg's Points reservation. So Greg will be placed in his fixed Week 25/Unit 6206 but will have to move from that unit to another for his subsequent 6-day Points stay.
I think that's it; Greg will correct me if it's wrong.
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All 3 bdrm units were initially fixed weeks. Any weeks not sold by June of 2010 went into the trust. Also, weeks acquired by Marriott's ROFR go into the trust.
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Thanks, this makes more sense. I didn't understand how they could just reserve the week and make available for DC points reservation. Now I get it.
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I believe they're all fixed Units as well as Weeks?
The more I think about this the more it makes sense that Unit 6206 may be the only unit that's available for Trust Points usage for both Weeks 26 and 27, which is what's required for the other guy to be placed in a single unit for his single 8-night reservation. He wouldn't have been able to book the reservation if a unit wasn't available for all 8 nights at the time he requested it, right? But Greg can be moved on the check-out/in day of his two consecutive reservations because Points aren't ever fixed and unit placement isn't guaranteed for anything but fixed Unit ownerships (which are rare birds in the Marriott system.)
But again - why wouldn't they just say this when Greg asked, instead of giving him a song-and-dance about the other guy's request being accommodated due to a more special occasion?