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Mega Owners at Club Wyndham Harbortown Point Default on Maintenance Fees

Try Fairfield, Trendwest, Cendant, and Wyndham.
 
Did you try "Fairfield"?
Fairfield turned up about 27 pages, but many of these are conveyances to an individual buyer. I also can't view any of the images of the deeds. They all say image not available. So researching on the Ventura county website is not as easy as it should be.
 
I did one at Ocean Walk this past Monday morning. Got a hard sell to combine my 2 deeded and 2 CWA contracts into one CWA contract, plus buying 184k points to take me to Gold VIP, (without my PIC Plus contract), for $47k. It also came with the hard sell that they would rent out my excess points or me every year to "more than pay for my total annual maintenance fees". I passed. I told them that having them rent out the points for me for more than enough to pay my maintenance fees every year just seemed too good to be true. They assured me it wasn't, but of course, "no guarantees". Oh, and they also said they would be able to assure me that I would be able to exit my ownership at any point in the future. They also assured me they would be able to transfer all of my ownership, including the PIC Plus contract, to a niece or nephew at any point in the future. I told them I understood it could only transfer to spouses and children, but they said they would be able to "make it happen". (I'm skeptical of that too.)

PIC Plus Weeks don't transfer. A good reason for family to leave you on after you pass. They just keep paying the maintenance fees to your resort you PIC'd.
 
PIC Plus Weeks don't transfer. A good reason for family to leave you on after you pass. They just keep paying the maintenance fees to your resort you PIC'd.
How would I accomplish that? It's currently only myself and my partner on the account. At this point I don't know if any nieces or nephews have an interest in inheriting our timeshares but intend to begin having a conversation with them about it. IF one decides they would like to inherit them, can they be added as an owner on my Wyndham account, then just continue using it after we pass? IF they can be added as an owner, how would I get that accomplished? Thanks!
 
@FL Guy If any of them want it, add them before you pass. It seems to be a real headache for the heirs who want the Wyndham timeshare. Multiple times submitting the death certificate only to have them "lose" the paperwork again. I've seen people posting that 6 months to a year later Wyndham still hadn't done anything. Maintenance fees still have to be paid, they can't use the account, and it ran into the next use year so all the points from the previous year were lost.

Several things to be considered for anyone considering this. Is there a VIP level with grandfathered unlimited housekeeping credits? If so everyone definitely wants this to be as seamless as possible. Is everything developer, resale, or a mix of both? Are there multiple contracts in the account?

Yes, you're Gold with your PIC and have several deeds/contracts. First you'll have to add them to the deeds. Since there isn't a deed involved with CWA contracts, that's an in-house thing Wyndham handles. Afaik after all that's done you'll submit the Wyndham form with the $399 payment for each deed and contract.

I've seen people post that the Legacy department will handle this and there might or might not be fees. Same thing with the Title department. All you can do is ask. You might want to keep calling back to see if you'll get a more favorable answer rather than accepting their first answer if all you're getting is no, no, and no.

Technically all you need to do for now is add them to one deed or contract in the account to make them owners. However that just postpones the eventual headache. However that's still a good way for them to try it on for size.

PIC Plus weeks aren't transferable. So you can't change that. It's always handy to have extra names on the account so my solution would be to not take you off the account when you pass. Many owners do that when a parent passes to have the extra name(s). This is a don't ask, don't tell situation. They just have to make sure to keep paying the maintenance fees for the resort you PIC'd. The points count towards your VIP level even if they don't deposit the week.

I'm guessing from your post that your PIC Plus week might be a 2 bedroom that gets you 154k points? At some point you and/or they could find two 3 or 4 bedroom weeks that would give you/them a total of 508k PIC Plus points. You'd unenroll your current PIC Plus week to enroll the higher point weeks and have to make a 98k point purchase. There's a maximum of two PIC Plus weeks allowed. You'd make them the primary on those PIC Plus weeks and the primary on the new purchase too. I'd estimate this would cost in the neighborhood of maybe no more than $20k if you go though Telesales and don't mind having more CWA points. Youll get bonus points and the discounts and rebates typically start at 100k-105k depending on the current promotions. Sometimes they're enough better for 120-130k points making that a much better deal for just a couple k more.

The Massanutten resorts and the Williamsburg Vacation Village resorts have 4 bedroom units and you should be able to pick them up for the closing costs and fees. I think one of the VV Williamsburg resorts has 3 bedroom units. The owner might even be willing to pay the closing costs and fees or split them with you.

That 508k PIC Plus points plus the additional 100-130k points youd be buying should be enough to make you and them Platinum. Maybe even Founder's? I'd guess the bonus points would for sure be enough make you and them temporary Founders for 2 years.

Lots to think about and discuss.
 
@FL Guy If any of them want it, add them before you pass. It seems to be a real headache for the heirs who want the Wyndham timeshare. Multiple times submitting the death certificate only to have them "lose" the paperwork again. I've seen people posting that 6 months to a year later Wyndham still hadn't done anything. Maintenance fees still have to be paid, they can't use the account, and it ran into the next use year so all the points from the previous year were lost.

Several things to be considered for anyone considering this. Is there a VIP level with grandfathered unlimited housekeeping credits? If so everyone definitely wants this to be as seamless as possible. Is everything developer, resale, or a mix of both? Are there multiple contracts in the account?

Lots to think about and discuss.
Wow! Thanks Jan M. Yes, LOTS to think about. I'm heading home from Ocean Walk tomorrow morning and will take time to digest this information and respond with more detail to you early next week.
 
Wow! Thanks Jan M. Yes, LOTS to think about. I'm heading home from Ocean Walk tomorrow morning and will take time to digest this information and respond with more detail to you early next week.
PM me and I'll give you my cellphone number so you can call if it's easier to ask questions.
 
Or Cedant, or Cendant (or something like that), the company who was originally the parent company of Worldmark.
Nope.
Try Fairfield, Trendwest, Cendant, and Wyndham.
Take Trendwest out of the mix. There is no connection to Harbortown.

The original parent company of WM was a window company (Jeld-Wen) looking to sell windows. Also built Eagle Crest in Oregon. Trendwest was the developer and manager but still owned by Jeld-Wen.
Cendant is Wyndham. They bought Wyndham for the name after various legal shenanigans with a Cendant executive going to jail. They needed a new reputation and used a new name to put lipstick on the pig.
Cendant bought Trendwest about 20 years ago. Again, nothing to do with Harbortown. The Harbortown lineage missing link is likely Cendant buying Fairfield, unless there is some other entity in between.
 
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