Hi Dioxide45….Beachplace Towers are considered Ocean Front?In the continental US, I can think of the following; OceanWatch, Barony Beach Club, Surf Watch, Grande Ocean, Monarch at Sea Pines, Oceana Palms, Ocean Pointe, Beachplace Towers, South Beach Pulse and Crystal Shores (technically Gulf Front )
The only one we haven't been to is South Beach.Have you been to all of them @dioxide45?
I would say so. The only thing between the resort and the beach is the road. No other buildings.Hi Dioxide45….Beachplace Towers are considered Ocean Front?
I would consider Newport Coast Villa (NCV) to almost be Ocean Front.......
Fabulous elevated views for sure!
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I would say so. The only thing between the resort and the beach is the road. No other buildings.
I certainly agree that the resort is less than ideal. It is one of our least favorite in Florida and perhaps the entire MVC system. To be fair though, all those shops and buildings are all part of the Beachplace Mall and most are in fact connected to the same structure that makes up Beachplace Towers. That said, looking straight out from any of the units that face the ocean do provide full ocean front views. More than can be said for some of the other oceanfront resorts. Even the intracoastal views are pretty cool, better than looking at some man made pond. I don't think any of these detractors prevent one from considering it an oceanfront resort.There are many other buildings between BPT and the road....see below.........also, after crossing the very busy road there's a heavily used sidewalk and short wall.
Looking out from the rooms at BPT toward the ocean everyone sees over these buildings, and the rooftops are NOT attractive. Flat-tops with A/C units, vents, etc.
And actually the 4th story "pool" has a taller solid wall that prevents a clear view of the ocean altogether -----you have to walk over and look over that wall to see the ocean...
It's by far the worst pool situation in the Marriott system---literally a small enclosed concrete playground that functions as a pool and a concrete floor to lay out.
Parking in the high-rise garage is a disaster. And the limited elevators (2) are so slow that many just give up, not to mention that there's always a crowd standing around to use them.
We traded in once, but left early at mid-week.
In the continental US, I can think of the following; OceanWatch, Barony Beach Club, Surf Watch, Grande Ocean, Monarch at Sea Pines, Oceana Palms, Ocean Pointe, Beachplace Towers, South Beach Pulse and Crystal Shores (technically Gulf Front )
We vacation at BPT every year in mid January…we always stay in a high floor Intracoastal view…very nice view of multi million dollar homes that line the Intracoastal..and enjoy watching mega yachts cruise by…and the night time view of the skyline of Fort Lauderdale is stunning.I would say so. The only thing between the resort and the beach is the road. No other buildings.
Not really, unlike Beachplace Towers were about half the villas have wide open ocean views, Monarch and Grande Ocean only have a handful of villas with wide open ocean views (oceanfront). But each of them sit right on the ocean with just a short walk over the dunes to the beach.Does Grande Ocean and Monarch at Sea Pines have mostly oceanfront?
I think @dioxide45 was just responding to a follow up question from Lydlady. The original post from him answering the OP is accurate, depending on your opinion on BPT in Ft. Lauderdale.I'm really confused by this thread. My definition of Ocean Front is "the resort is on the ocean". The responses that dioxide45 is giving is more about ocean front views in terms of buildings. Can the OP clarify the question because the answer is very different if it is my definition vs. dioxide45.
I think it depends on where you are used to staying on your beach vacations. There are many places where there is a road that fronts the beach and there are no houses (or hotels) on the ocean side of the road...but nevertheless consider houses or hotels on that road 'Oceanfront'. For that matter many of the 'Oceanfront' hotels in South Beach are separated from the beach by Lummus Park as well as Ocean Drive.I'm really confused by this thread. My definition of Ocean Front is "the resort is on the ocean"...
Not really, unlike Beachplace Towers were about half the villas have wide open ocean views, Monarch and Grande Ocean only have a handful of villas with wide open ocean views (oceanfront). But each of them sit right on the ocean with just a short walk over the dunes to the beach.
I think of “oceanfront” resorts as being directly adjacent to the ocean - step off the resort and you’re on the sand or a path over dunes/marsh to the sand. If that’s the case then, for example, Barony Beach is oceanfront while BeachPlace Towers is not. But if you’re looking for a view of an ocean from your unit, between the two BPT has many more units that will give you what you want despite BB's "oceanfront" units all full-on facing the ocean simply because BPT is a high rise with many more ocean-facing units.I'm really confused by this thread. My definition of Ocean Front is "the resort is on the ocean". The responses that dioxide45 is giving is more about ocean front views in terms of buildings. Can the OP clarify the question because the answer is very different if it is my definition vs. dioxide45.
You and I are on the same page.I think of “oceanfront” resorts as being directly adjacent to the ocean - step off the resort and you’re on the sand or a path over dunes/marsh to the sand. If that’s the case then, for example, Barony Beach is oceanfront while BeachPlace Towers is not. But if you’re looking for a view of an ocean from your unit, between the two BPT has many more units that will give you what you want despite BB's "oceanfront" units all full-on facing the ocean simply because BPT is a high rise with many more ocean-facing units.
You and I are on the same page.
I did include Surf Watch on the list of oceanfront resorts, but one could say that if Beachplace isn't oceanfront, then Surf Watch certainly isn't either. From most of the buildings, there is a narrow (non busy) road to cross. The walk to the beach is probably about the same when you consider the elevator situation and walking through the Beachplace mall.I think of “oceanfront” resorts as being directly adjacent to the ocean - step off the resort and you’re on the sand or a path over dunes/marsh to the sand. If that’s the case then, for example, Barony Beach is oceanfront while BeachPlace Towers is not. But if you’re looking for a view of an ocean from your unit, between the two BPT has many more units that will give you what you want despite BB's "oceanfront" units all full-on facing the ocean simply because BPT is a high rise with many more ocean-facing units.
Then you have to consider that the unit designations (e.g. oceanfront, oceanside, oceanvista which is unique to SurfWatch, etc) at the different resorts might mean different things at the different resorts AND that the views from individual units at the same resort that are designated the same are not at all consistent, and on top of that confusion there’s the fact that the reservation system spits out other unit descriptions (e.g. close to ocean, courtyard, etc) - all of which makes it impossible to find uniformity anywhere!
If view is important and you want to prepare yourself as best as possible, review the individual resort maps (thank you again, @dioxide45) for orientation to the ocean and then ask for the details about unit designations - there are already some very good often-used threads that get linked whenever these types of questions come up.
We did a MVC sales presentation at the W when we vacationed at BPT a few years ago…great selection of breakfast goodies..lol…we thought the W was very nice and my wife remarked that the units probably would have a great viewWe stayed at the W last summer, which is a few blocks down from BeachPlace. They gave us a 2BR on a high floor. We were not oceanfront and I think the view would be ocean view based on how Marriott classifies views. However, the view was amazing. We could see the ocean very well and the intracoastal. A few blocks down, there are very expensive high end condos. There are also plans to open a Four Seasons residential condo building.
To be fair to BeachPlace, none of the expensive condos are directly on the ocean side. It is like that in many parts of Miami Beach too. People living in these expensive condos surrounding Beach Place all have to walk across the street to go to the beach. I would still consider these resorts and condos to be ocean front.
I have not stayed at Beach Place but we walked there everyday to buy something in the drug store on the ground floor. I am assuming if you are on a high floor at Beach Place that you would have an amazing view.
Tuggers have to remember the real estate in South Florida is aging now. The buildings on the beach are aging and also corroding due to the salt. We all know what happened in Surfside. When we were staying at the W, we noticed so any external areas of the building that seemed to need repairs. I think a lot of it was from the salt water.
Disclosure: I grew up in Miami. I have seen the pros and cons of growth from the 1970s.