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Marriott pushing ARDA support with invoice

You received two bills in the mail? I doubt that. You said the first was online. I prepaid some of my fees also and only got the one paper bill, prepared as of the date it was generated. Assuming just one paper bill, this was it and it showed what was unpaid from the first one, including any optional amounts. To me it is very logical and certainly not sinister.

I'm pretty confident only one bill was received in the mail. A second bill would not have been generated until after the due date.
 
I'm pretty confident only one bill was received in the mail. A second bill would not have been generated until after the due date.
Yes. I honestly do not find anything surprising , or I dare say even confusing, about the bill received by the OP. At least no more confusing than the normal annual bills we have all been receiving for years. I agree they could do a better job of highlighting that the ARDA-ROC contribution is optional, but that should not confuse anyone (like the OP) who has been through this drill before. There has never been a check box to indicate your election to make the contribution. Rather, you have always circled either the total without ARDA-ROC or the total including ARDA-ROC, which is still the case this year.
 
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I had the same thing with my invoices from Marriott. They included the ARDA fee, and did NOT state that it was optional. I did not include the extra fee when I sent my payments, so we'll see what happens. I have not gotten a second bill yet. This is really an underhanded way to collect more money, and resorts should be required to state that it is an optional fee.
 
I had the same thing with my invoices from Marriott. They included the ARDA fee, and did NOT state that it was optional. I did not include the extra fee when I sent my payments, so we'll see what happens. I have not gotten a second bill yet. This is really an underhanded way to collect more money, and resorts should be required to state that it is an optional fee.
You probably won't get a second bill. I think it has been determined that the OP didn't get a second bill either. They paid before the bill was generated, resulting in the confusing bill with only the $20 ARDA fee showing.
 
One benefit of being a UK resident - our MVC MF invoices don’t even include an ARDA contribution option, even for our US resort weeks.
 
karibkeith, have you received your DRI Club Bill for 2019?
 
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One benefit of being a UK resident - our MVC MF invoices don’t even include an ARDA contribution option, even for our US resort weeks.
You just have to pay a non voluntary International Owners Surcharge...
 
You just have to pay a non voluntary International Owners Surcharge...
Don’t remind me!
And yes, this is per week owned so for us over $350 per year for I don’t know what as we are registered for e-billing and all of our communications are electronic.
I can’t readily think of any extra cost that MVC incurs in dealing with us as non US resident owners?
 
Don’t remind me!
And yes, this is per week owned so for us over $350 per year for I don’t know what as we are registered for e-billing and all of our communications are electronic.
I can’t readily think of any extra cost that MVC incurs in dealing with us as non US resident owners?
Perhaps they use the funds to operate the Cork call center?
 
Perhaps they use the funds to operate the Cork call center?
They may well do, but as I only very occasionally use the Cork Call Centre, that would make each of my interactions with them extortionately expensive - many, many tens of dollars at the absolute least.
It would be far more cost effective for me to just use the US Call Centre.
I will contact them (haha) to discuss this.
 
They may well do, but as I only very occasionally use the Cork Call Centre, that would make each of my interactions with them extortionately expensive - many, many tens of dollars at the absolute least.
It would be far more cost effective for me to just use the US Call Centre.
I will contact them (haha) to discuss this.
Start calling them to get some value for the money spent!
 
Regardless of whether or not I paid before the bill showed up - - the computer system knew, recognized and adjusted for 2 things prior to or at the time that the bill being sent out:
1. I paid the mandatory fees in full and
2. I declined to pay any funds to ARDA

Then the computer system
1. Recognized that I paid all mandatory fees in full and
2. Refused to recognize that I declined any payment for ARDA

BTW, I prepay my MF on my Sands of Kahana timeshare so that I can book a week before I've paid. I've done it for ten years. They also have an "opt-in" for an ARDA contribution. But, they have never sent me any sort of supplementary "bill" or invoice.

So, maybe the Marriott IT department has done a poor job in programming their financial system or maybe they are trying to take another bite of the apple. Perhaps some of you who seem to have a crystal ball can better determine this - - at least in your own mind. Marriott corporate reached out to me and said that they had not seen this before. They said that THEY found it misleading. Are they lying? Misinformed? or something else. Who knows. But for me to find it strange to get another document from Marriott after I paid in full seemed strange. BTW, the ARDA detail wasn't on the page that showed that I owed $20. It was on the back side. It was not on the part that was supposed to be mailed in. There was only two lines on the backside. My wife, who is a CPA and has an MBA (that is, a person with a high IQ) thought that I screwed up the original payment and was prepared to pay the $20. So was the bill misleading? I think that it would be considered to be misleading for a large number of recipients.

I find that some of you fellow tuggers have been a bit quick to blame me. I paid a bill in full at the point that their accounting system was loaded with the data to recognize that I had an outstanding amount due. And then, after paying that bill, I receive another invoice for an option donation that I had specifically declined. So, did I prepay? Well, not really. Perhaps I paid before they sent out the paper bill, but I really didn't prepay. Their system was ready to accept my payment. But, the ARDA contribution part wasn't confusing. Marriott obfuscated or clouded the issue. I travel quite a bit (sometimes for a month or more) and often prepay a bill when I know that I won't return home before it is due. VISA, AMEX, electric bill, water bill, etc. I don't recall having any sort of issue by pre-paying a bill. All of those systems never resulted in a subsequent bill. But I did have a problem with Marriott. And several of you found me at fault for prepaying my bill. That is, paying a bill that shows up on my on-line account. Come on folks.

When YOU pay a bill in full and then receive an additional "bill" or invoice for charges that are not required, would YOU find it irritating and perhaps a little sleazy? So - - hypothetically - - would any of you deniers find it irritating if every single VISA or AMEX or water or electricity bill that you paid resulted in a supplimentary invoice for voluntary contributions which you previously chose not to opt-in? Or if after you pay your income taxes, the IRS contacts you with an invoice for a contribution to your designated party or to Unisef or ACS, etc. Also - - voluntary contributions where it isn't 100% obvious that the "contributions" are actually voluntary? That is, where it says that the amount "due" (the "contribution") is subject to late fees and/or a minimum service fee? When I read the portion about the late fees I wasn't 100% positive that the ARDA fee was 100% optional. But, I was skeptical so I called Marriott. They told me it was misleading. They said that they thought that their system should not have sent me a subsequent invoice. So, I posted on Tug because I was irritated and thought that others may become mislead. Several people commented that they found the ARDA billing to be at least a bit confusing.

Come on folks. I'm a fellow tugger. There isn't need to be hostile to me or to be quite so negatively judgmental.
 
I don’t think anybody was being hostile (I certainly was not). Some of us were just trying to explain what could have happened, based on our read of the timing of events. Seems we should all be entitled to see things how we see them and still be one happy TUG family.
 
I don’t think anybody was being hostile (I certainly was not). Some of us were just trying to explain what could have happened, based on our read of the timing of events. Seems we should all be entitled to see things how we see them and still be one happy TUG family.
I would have to agree. I don't see any hostility, and I certainly wasn't trying to be hostile and sure hope that isn't how the OP took it. I am just a process guy. I work with business processes all day and also work in IT. I was trying to figure out a reasonable explanation of how this could have happened and I think it simply comes down to MVCI's shotty IT system and bad timing. I suspect the timing is something like this; they load all of the amounts in to their system and you can then see them online when you login. You can even pay them. A few days later a job runs to generate the statements. If you happen to pay any amount between these two dates, that is shown on the paper statement that they generate. They are required to run statements based on their arrangement with the HOAs and the HOAs pay for the statements. We all know that MVCI can do a better job improving their IT programming. From their online website to reservations, it all needs work. Apparently billing is another area. However, I suspect that since they have never seen this before the issue the OP had probably impacts a very small percentage of owners, the cost to fix it may outweigh any benefit, especially if they are really wanting to collect that $10 for the ARDA.
 
Question does a management company/ resort received any money’s back from ARDA from collecting this fund?
 
I paid both my maintenance fees early as well. The ARDC or whatever it is called was optional and I did not pay it. I just checked my owners account page and there is nothing owed.
 
Isn't it quite interesting how MVC chooses to show (or hide or disguise or . . .) the ARDA fees instead of being overly transparent about it. The question of whether a management company or resort receives money back from collecting AFDA contributions is evident to me, that for every $10 donated by Owners it is $10 less than they have to pay for ARDA to lobby state legislators and Congress on their behalf and in their self-interest which most often is NOT in the best interest of their Owners
 
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