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Marriott Aruba Ocean Club Owners Being Ripped Off By Marriott - READ IF AN OWNER

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It is now transparent

You have proven your own case and motive it is clear. It has been exposed to all in writing. I guess I have accomplished something now.
Let people make their choice based on that.



Somehow jonnat I doubt you've accomplished anything:rolleyes:

And if you werent sure what the webmaster of the concerned owners group meant as insulting....well hmmmm.....calling the members of the concerned owners group "a bunch of whining windbags" would likely be considered in most quarters as an insult...lol

And obviously you wouldnt want to be a member where all the members are just that would you? So whats the problem....voila....you're not a member :)
 

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Hi Sue
I certainly understand that owners would want to register to get the information and we are fine with that if they are an owner. If they decide afterwards that they dont agree and want to remove themselves thats okay too. Whats not okay is to join the site, come here and call everyone a whining windbag and still remain active on the site. I am sure if I insulted everyone on tug my account would be suspended. Its that simple.

What is even more interesting is how the poster was able to insult Tug members, ( as we both know there are many Tug members who are in fact members of the concerned owners group some much more silent than others...lol) which he has done and not be reprimanded by the moderators, do ya think there might be a bit of a bias going on. I waited for 2 days before saying this because I thought for certain the post would be removed if the Tug policies were applied in an even handed manner...Nah, insults are ok on Tug right ? :rolleyes:
 
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I am a new owner at Marriott's Mountain Valley Lodge. My main concern is that I would like to be able exchange into either the Aruba Ocean Club or the Aruba Surf Club via II. The MFs at MMVL are high and the new point system gives owners at MMVL virtually no trading power. Then again, as a resale purchaser, I would not be able to participate in the point system even if I wanted to.

However, it seems that the Aruba Surf Club and Aruba Ocean Club may have done quite well under the new points system. If your MF/point ratio is less than $0.25/point, you may get some fantastic trades at a bargain. That is of course assuming that you may wish to vacation someplace other than Aruba.

I am curious to know how the owners at AOC perceive this situation. I will not be offended if you disagree with me. (BTW, I have been an owner with HGVC since 2001 and there never has been any point skimming with HGVC. However,that is not the question I am asking about. I would like to understand if you think your trading power has increased or decreased with the new point system.)
 

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Hi
I think they are doing the same thing as the majority of the tug members, still trying to understand the new system. A number of them have reached out to Allan Cohen. If you wanted to send him an email he may be able to give you an idea of some of the feedback he's been getting. His number and email are posted on the website. You do not have to register to see his contact information.

www.aocconcernedowners.com

Please dont sign up and come back here and call everyone a whining windbag.:ignore:
 

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Good question Piano...for me the answer is I dont know. We havent traded alot, but over the years I've seen what was available in trade with our 1bdrm ovean view weeks in Gold season and there wasnt a trade we couldnt get(holidays weeks excepted) . When I checked into various possibilities by calling I.I we could have traded to any of the Hawaii 2 bedrooms in high season and these were available on an instant confirmation basis to us for March 6 years ago when we were considering a trade using a Nov booking at the O.C(we didnt end up doing it...well let me rephrase...we went to Hawaii that year just not in a timeshare :)

Most of the friends we have there and others who we know that go down every year at the same time dont trade (we're boring :) )but im sure you'll get more answers from those on Tug who do
 
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Hi
I think they are doing the same thing as the majority of the tug members, still trying to understand the new system. A number of them have reached out to Allan Cohen. If you wanted to send him an email he may be able to give you an idea of some of the feedback he's been getting. His number and email are posted on the website. You do not have to register to see his contact information.

www.aocconcernedowners.com

Please dont sign up and come back here and call everyone a whining windbag.:ignore:

:hysterical: I would be shot by the moderators if I did that. I have no desire to make enemies at Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club. All I want to do is have a good time there.
 

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Have owned since 1998 and have never traded.Instead used II for other destinations at a great rate.It never made sense to us to trade because we never knew if we would get a destination of equal value.
We like going annually to Aruba.Actually going for about 30 years.
Think we like it?
As far as the point system goes we are in the dark about it.
We will be in Aruba next week and will try to schedule a meeting with our salesperson to try to explain what its all about.
Maybe we'll meet some of the other whining windbags when we go.:rolleyes:
 

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Somehow jonnat I doubt you've accomplished anything:rolleyes:

And if you werent sure what the webmaster of the concerned owners group meant as insulting....well hmmmm.....calling the members of the concerned owners group "a bunch of whining windbags" would likely be considered in most quarters as an insult...lol

And obviously you wouldnt want to be a member where all the members are just that would you? So whats the problem....voila....you're not a member :)
Those words directed at a group wouldn't even justify a post removal if on topic for a thread, IMO. If directed at a single person, a post removal would be in order and a minor warning at most. Even repeated instances of sich issues would not justify account suspension, must less removal, IMO.
 

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So let me understand this, the poster just insulted every member of the group and stated that he did not want them to have his private information. So we can either let him continue to be a member of a group he does not support and allow him to insult everyone in the group and we can keep his private information or we can remove him from the site for breaking the rules of participation. Removing him is appropriate and it also protects his private information because once he is deleted, he is deleted.

Now if he was removed from Tug your view would be different. I just dont think you can look at both sides of this.

Censorship by banishing someone from the site is fairly easy to understand.

You criticize the current AOC BoD for marginalizing the opinions and voice of those "concerned" owners who disagree with the BoD. Then you do the same for a owner that disagrees with your group. By hiding behind the "rules of participation".

Not sure when simply disagreeing with another's viewpoint became the same as insulting them.
 

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After two emails to Allan and responses and an offer to chat with him I will not speak to him any further until my account has been reinstated on Concerned Owners Website. As of today I really do not support their effort as they promote the same tactics that they have accused Marriott of doing to all the owners. I have stated this directly to Allan whose name is plastered on the site as the person to contact. I have also been told by Allan that their webmaster is independent to the site and he would look into what happened. No response on what happened. It is all very suspicious to say the least. As for being insulting what I have found insulting is the amount of accusations that have been slung across this board that have questionable truth to them and are posted as truth. I have nothing to apologize for and will not apologize for anything I post here as I would say the exact same thing in person as I post here. As I stated before I did not hold an opinion about this issue but was very interested on seeing both sides of the issue before I formed my opinion. My opinion is based on TWO YEARS of seeing both sides and my final visit to an amazing resort. Also, the childish response from a group of people who I can now see are more manipulative and unreasonable that the corporate domination of "Marriott" they claim to be victims of.
What is most infuriating to me is that my fees are being used to fight litigation that can't be resolved and quite honestly has become petty if anything else. We voted (The Association), I voted (I don't want my information disclosed to third parties or other owners), and it is time to move on. I am glad that I posted here what I posted and that some people do not feel happy about it. What I have accomplished is another dialogue that gets both sides thinking about their actions and hopefully will lead to closure on this thread and some of the tactics that have been going on for way too long.

This account is very strangely similar to my dialog with Allan from a year ago. At the time, he completely disavowed any support of Mark's actions on the board. Though he continued to use Mark as a mouthpiece for his presence here.

Can you say "plausible deniability"?
 

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a diversion technique -are you just bored or trying to change the subject of the board. I mean really, there is no administrator of any board that would allow a member to trash the other members of the board and remain active. If those remarks are retracted, the member can reregister. Its common respect and I think you know that. If I called you and Dave and any everyone that participates in tug a whining windbag I know I would be suspended. However, since this particular action was done related to the concerned owners website, you are not being fair.

I ponder why you are doing that, I understand some of the posters doing it but you Eric. I am going to chalk it up to you getting nothing out of reading the points discussions, you need another topic. I am also a little bored from reading the threads but I would very much be interested in your opinion on the new point system. For example what do you think about Marriott changing the rules of trading and pretty much taking away the voting rights for those that are loyal Marriott customers who will sign up. Would you sign up.
 

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Have you ever thought?

That maybe there are some people who are sick of hearing people on this Board trash our property, our investment, our time to relax? That we are happy with the way things look and are operated and are equally just a bored or annoyed with the negative postings that have been going on here for two plus years?
 

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a diversion technique -are you just bored or trying to change the subject of the board. I mean really, there is no administrator of any board that would allow a member to trash the other members of the board and remain active. If those remarks are retracted, the member can reregister. Its common respect and I think you know that. If I called you and Dave and any everyone that participates in tug a whining windbag I know I would be suspended. However, since this particular action was done related to the concerned owners website, you are not being fair.
That is absolutely NOT true. NO reasonable moderator or webmaster would suspend you for such a remark as a first offense, much less remove you totally. I doubt such a post would even be removed if directed at a group, it likely would be removed and a warning if directed at an individual. This was a draconian tactic that was unreasonable and unwarranted, plain and simple, but then again so is the requirement to agree with the mission statement to participate.
 

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That maybe there are some people who are sick of hearing people on this Board trash our property, our investment, our time to relax? That we are happy with the way things look and are operated and are equally just a bored or annoyed with the negative postings that have been going on here for two plus years?
I think it is clear that there are a lot of owners who feel the same way. Why doesn't the concerned owners group just pull up their big girl panties and enjoy the Ocean Club. Stop wasting everyone's money!
 

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Moderator rules are clear

Have a great 4th regardless of your opinion, sincerely this is a day of celebration, hope you enjoy it.
 

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I don't think Tug moderators would censor anyone for something that they said on a different board- for all we know you are trashing Tuggers constantly on the "Concerned owners group" but 1) it is a private site and no one would know and 2) it's not on this board so it isn't pertinent and cannot be controlled by Tug- I've never heard of seen any moderator commenting on a members outside posts (in fact they have encouraged some folks to post their political views on other boards that are intended for that purpose).

I do think you have (again) lost some credibility when you bar owners who disagree with you and make mildly insulting statements on outside boards. Are you really insulted? That is about as mild as it can get as far as insults go.

Your name is "Concerned owners group" but others can be concerned too but in different ways. The group continues to suffer because it doesn't really have any goals and cannot explain what it's current purpose is or even what it is really concerned about. I think your group will shrink as owners see the new renovations that Allan Cohen tried to block because they were too expensive. Then there will be a handful of committed members and you will all agree 100% of the time about everything!

BTW- why are you all saying you will check with Allan about the points program? Does he have some special, secret information about this too? It has all happened after he left the board so I don't see why he would know anything more than any other owner. Also, don't go to a sales presentation expecting to get good information- the salespeople don't have much training on this and are mainly interested in selling you points. If you have questions the points specialists are (slightly) better, and Dave M.s excellent post is even better yet.

Happy Fourth of July!!

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Whatever jonnats opinions are he is entitled to. That said imho under the circumstances it was entirely appropriate that lovearuba booted him from her website. Not for his opinion but rather for the insult levied against all the members of the group. I for one do not appreciate being referred to as a whining windbag and yes I find it very insulting. It is far more insulting than other comments made in this thread that got others suspended on this very board.

All of that aside what I still find extremely odd is that a new poster comes on here and starts heaping an insult on a thread has been extremely controversial but that is dormant, in the middle of the biggest fiasco likely in Marriotts history. I dont care what side of the fence one is on...this looks like a distraction technique .The "why" is what Im still not sure about :ponder:

tlwmkw
Where do "all "of us say we're checking with Allan about the points program? The only reference to Allan that I could see in relation to the points program was by a sigle person, namely, lovearuba indicated that a number of owners have reached out to Allan for his opinion. Was there something else I missed subsequently removed?
 
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a diversion technique -are you just bored or trying to change the subject of the board. I mean really, there is no administrator of any board that would allow a member to trash the other members of the board and remain active. If those remarks are retracted, the member can reregister. Its common respect and I think you know that. If I called you and Dave and any everyone that participates in tug a whining windbag I know I would be suspended. However, since this particular action was done related to the concerned owners website, you are not being fair.

I ponder why you are doing that, I understand some of the posters doing it but you Eric. I am going to chalk it up to you getting nothing out of reading the points discussions, you need another topic. I am also a little bored from reading the threads but I would very much be interested in your opinion on the new point system. For example what do you think about Marriott changing the rules of trading and pretty much taking away the voting rights for those that are loyal Marriott customers who will sign up. Would you sign up.

I know you would really would like to hide behind this point that he trashed other members, or turn the dialog toward the pts system. But I think Dean framed the issue best when he pointed out that his comments were too vague and general in nature to be construed as a personal attack on any one individual.

And I am pretty sure that even if he had omitted that reference, your group still would have found some other reason to kick him off the concerned owners group board. I think Luckybee's comments clearly indicate that point. The rationale is just a smokescreen.

In the same vein as you questioning my motives. This has been the tactics of your group all along. Whenever pointed questions are asked, avoid those issues by questioning the motives of the person asking the question. Same song, different verse.
 
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I know you would really would like to hide behind this point that he trashed other members, or turn the dialog toward the pts system. But I think Dean framed the issue best when he pointed out that his comments were too vague and general in nature to be construed as a personal attack on any one individual.

And I am pretty sure that even if he had omitted that reference, your group still would have found some other reason to kick him off the concerned owners group board. I think Luckybee's comments clearly indicate that point. The rationale is just a smokescreen.

In the same vein as you questioning my motives. This has been the tactics of your group all along. Whenever pointed questions are asked, avoid those issues by questioning the motives of the person asking the question. Same song, different verse.

For once I agree with you...well sort of...lol...his comments were not an attack on any one individual . They were an attack on the entire group of people. He called the entire concerned owner membership a "bunch of whining windbags" on the TUG board. I as a member of that group am insulted by the comment. Others who are members of both that group and Tug were insulted by that comment. I would not wish to be a member of a group if I felt that other members perceived me that way. If I came on here Eric and said that your group of Marriott apologists were a bunch of whining windbags, or if you said the same to me(well I doubt you could call me a Marriott apologist...lol) either of us would be suspended from Tug and you know it because you and I have been down that road before and it took a whole lot less than that. Funny thing though....quite a few more individual disenchanted with Marriott now.
Nothing is going to change by his comments. He just managed to stir the pot.
Funny that you've managed to not question his motivation in ressurecting a dormant thread when you have with so many on the other side of the issue.
 
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:hysterical: I would be shot by the moderators if I did that. I have no desire to make enemies at Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club. All I want to do is have a good time there.



Apparently not....looks like open season according to our moderators lack of interest.
 

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For once I agree with you...well sort of...lol...his comments were not an attack on any one individual . They were an attack on the entire group of people. He called the entire concerned owner membership a "bunch of whining windbags" on the TUG board. I as a member of that group am insulted by the comment. Others who are members of both that group and Tug were insulted by that comment. I would not wish to be a member of a group if I felt that other members perceived me that way. If I came on here Eric and said that your group of Marriott apologists were a bunch of whining windbags, or if you said the same to me(well I doubt you could call me a Marriott apologist...lol) either of us would be suspended from Tug and you know it because you and I have been down that road before and it took a whole lot less than that. Funny thing though....quite a few more individual disenchanted with Marriott now.
Nothing is going to change by his comments. He just managed to stir the pot.
Funny that you've managed to not question his motivation in ressurecting a dormant thread when you have with so many on the other side of the issue.

Please. Calling a large group of people a "whiny windbag" is not a personal insult. He is not referring to any one specific person, only providing his personal opinion on how he views the group as a whole. His comments lack the specificity identifying any one specific person as whiny windbag, and should only be viewed in the context of the group as whole.

I have seen numerous comments have been made on this board about people's personal opinion of members of the legal profession. Are you likewise personally insulted by those comments? Should everyone who speaks ill of the legal profession be banned from TUG?

That is just clever rationalization of your group's attempt to censor his opinion.

And I personally find it insulting that you try to marginalize the opinions of TUG members that you disagree with you by questioning their motives. Should I now lodge a complaint with the mods that I am personally insulted by being called a "Marriott apologist" in attempt to get you kicked off TUG?
 
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Please. Calling a large group of people a "whiny windbag" is not a personal insult. He is not referring to any one specific person, only providing his personal opinion on how he views the group as a whole. His comments lack the specificity identifying any one specific person as whiny windbag, and should only be viewed in the context of the group as whole.

I have seen numerous comments have been made on this board about people's personal opinion of members of the legal profession. Are you likewise personally insulted by those comments? Should everyone who speaks ill of the legal profession be banned from TUG?

That is just clever rationalization of your group's attempt to censor his opinion.

And I personally find it insulting that you try to marginalize the opinions of TUG members that you disagree with you by questioning their motives. Should I now lodge a complaint with the mods that I am personally insulted by being called a "Marriott apologist" in attempt to get you kicked off TUG?

Wouldnt be the first time !
 

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Update on Being Ripped Off

Can anyone give an update on how we are being ripped off if you own at AOC? I am just curious to see are there some new things that have come up or are the same issues on the table.

Also, are there other people who are on this board that own at AOC and feel they are not being ripped off and enjoy their experience with Marriott and AOC?
 
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Can anyone give an update on how we are being ripped off if you own at AOC? I am just curious to see are there some new things that have come up or are the same issues on the table.

Also, are there other people who are on this board that own at AOC and feel they are not being ripped off and enjoy their experience with Marriott and AOC?

The minutes from the annual meeting can be found here http://www.arubaoceanclub.com/

I believe Allen Cohen has sent an email with more of his perspective. Perhaps someone can share that so we can all "enjoy" that story.

We missed going last year (went to Hawaii for the first time and thoroughly enjoyed that). However, we still miss not going to Aruba. We are already booked for 2 weeks this coming Feb and counting the days. Of course we were not happy with the extra assessments, but it is what it is and feel most of the blame should rest with Allen and the former board for not doing their job in creating sufficient reserves.

I think the only rip off still happening is being caused by the "concerned owners group" who is forcing Marriott to spend our money defending their frivilous issues. They should drop their suit and enjoy the Ocean Club and beautiful Aruba OR sell and leave the rest of us alone.
 

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ARUBA OCEAN CLUB CONCERNED OWNERS
November 10, 2010

Dear Aruba Ocean Club Board of Directors:

After waiting, since June, for a response from you to our several offers previously made to resolve our legal action seeking the ability to contact all Aruba Ocean Club Owners and put an end to the waste of funds by the Aruba Ocean Club Board (the Board hereafter) and the Marriott Vacation Club International Division of Marriott (MVCI or Marriott, hereafter), I finally received your response. It is clear, from that response, that the Board and Marriott continue to act in bad faith and are seeking to mislead the Owners by continuing to make incomplete, erroneous, or false statements as to the facts involved and the clear intent of the Aruba Ocean Club (AOC) Concerned Owners. Your offer to include our web site address in a limited number of newsletters with the requirement that the Concerned Owners stop all other attempts to contact owners is not reasonable, adequate, or sufficient without your clearly informing the owners about and acknowledging the truth about all of the facts as well as providing owners the ability to contact each other on a regular basis outside the Board's and MVCI's control.

Your lack of good faith is clearly demonstrated by the following:

1. Your refusal to acknowledge that the action to seek transparency is being taken not by myself but on behalf of over 1000 Aruba Ocean Club Owners and the web site, www.aocconcernedowners.com, is theirs with contributions from various owners and is not my personal web site. The effort to seek transparency or openness is to keep the Owners duly informed of relevant matters at the Ocean Club and to avoid misrepresentations or the promulgation of misinformation either deliberately or through nondisclosure. For example: What transparency to Owners has the Board shown when, within the past few weeks, Owners have complained about roof leaks into their 6th floor villa's, after spending millions of dollars on repairs of the roof, the majority coming from charges to owners, the defective condition may still not to be rectified and, as you may recall, this atrocious condition is what caused the formation of the Concerned Owners Group;

2. Your refusal to acknowledge that your statements to Owners that the Aruba Court required you to call for a special meeting of Owners for a By Law change was not true. Rather, you chose to spend over $58,000.00 of Owners' funds in mailing costs to promote a proposed By Law change which was drafted by the Board and MVCI in a format designed to mislead Owners and was not what the Concerned Owners or the Aruba Court had ever requested therefore rendering the entire process a total waste of Owners funds;

3. Your refusal to acknowledge that your statement sent to owners stating that the Concerned Owners were seeking Owner contact information which would be made available to the public and could be used for telemarketing purposes was misleading and not true (and is hypocritical in light of the release and continued use - intentional or not - of AOC Owner contact information by MVCI for sales purposes);

4. Your refusal to acknowledge to AOC Owners the truth of the proposed By Law change ballot question and the true mathematical nature and importance of the vote. The Board has misleadingly stated that, "... the Board reconfirmed that, by an overwhelming vote of 87%, Owners made it clear to the Board that they did not want their personal information made public to anyone including a fellow Ocean Club owner..." The By Law amendment, as written by the Board and Marriott, was one that even concerned Owners would have voted against. It did not present to the Owners the Concerned Owners' intent and the response did not represent a majority of the Owners, less than 40% of all the Owners voted on the issue and 87% of 40% is less then 35% of the Owners (which is not a majority);

5. Your refusal to inform the owners of how the allegedly over $189,000.00 was spent to defend against the Concerned Owners. You should explain why, upon review of just a small portions of the invoices by a Concerned Owner, legal bills were found, all with no details, including an invoice for over $36,000.00 to send your attorney to meet with Marriott officials in Orlando; invoice # 06685 for $21,548.00 - attention Board member Steve Richards for 72 emails and phone calls to Board members; invoice #06796 for $3,097.00 for 32 emails and 3 telephone calls; invoice # 07120 for $2,496.00 for 11 emails; and invoice 06888 for $3,848.00 for 29 emails. These invoices total approximately $66,989.00! In the interest of transparency, we respectfully DEMAND production of the 144 emails that cost us over $30,000.00 or, on average about $215.20 per email of Owner funds. Also, there was an invoice for $3,848.00 for undocumented translations, yet when Owners asked for any court documents to be translated the Board stated that none were available. Every owner should ask themselves, why is the Board and MVCI spending Owner funds to prevent Owner to Owner contact - what are they afraid of and who are they protecting?;

6. Your refusal to initiate and inform the Owners why you have not provided a forum for Owner to Owner uncensored contact on your web site, www.arubaoceanclub.com, and your refusal to allow for the annual meeting to be recorded or broadcast as requested by Owners so that all Owners can better participate or observe the proceeding;

7. Your refusal to inform the owners that you have continued spending legal fees after we had agreed to try to work out issues without incurring further legal fees;

8. Your refusal to stop the continued harassment by MVCI staff against Concerned Owners who have the right to disseminate Concerned Owner information cards at the Ocean Club and your refusal to acknowledge or explain how it is that Corey Guest, our GM, who stated at the annual meeting that he did not have contact with Aruba Today newspaper which removed the Concerned Owners advertisement informing all Owners of their web site, www.aocconcernedowner.com, subsequently stated to a Judge in Court that he did have such contact;

9. Your refusal to allow owner proxies to be counted as votes in elections by apparently going along with MVCI's change to the proxy form for only AOC Owners without your approval in violation of the Bylaws. Marriott's action and your acceptance of adding the word "NOT", in allowing for proxy votes only for items "not" on the agenda has not been used by Marriott in this precise form to our knowledge in its 25 year history at any of its 53 other resorts. Why was the proxy word changed and why is Marriott spending thousands of dollars to hire a parliamentarian to conduct our meetings? We sincerely believe that the entire last annual meeting was conducted illegally and all actions taken since are invalid because of the tactics undertaken by the Board and MVCI and we request an impartial review, especially since even after being questioned by an Owner proxy expert, MVCI's own legal counsel raised questions about the process used. Note that if the concerned owners had prevailed without Marriott's votes - we would now most likely have a majority on the Board - three new Board members who would replace the current members and truly represent the views of owners and not MVCI. Why is Marriott fighting to keep the current Board members? Since the Board controls the nomination process the opportunities for new voices are difficult unless we have the ability to inform all owners of the issues; and

10. Your refusal to seek recovery of what could be estimated to be millions of dollars of lost revenue and reimbursement for owner paid repair and maintenance costs for a building whose defective condition may not have been fully disclosed to all owners at the time of sale.

During the past 18 months our numbers have continued to grow while the Board and MVCI continue to try to block our every move. The tactics of the MVCI Division of Marriott endorsed by the Board that have been forced upon the AOC owners have been shocking. From lost revenue to the manipulation of the proxy forms and control of Owner meetings, Owners should question what has caused the building infrastructure deterioration earlier than the standard life expectancy by normal building standards which has forced owners to pay an excessive amount, millions of dollars in the repair and maintenance of our facility? All this has caused a growing loss of trust and confidence and continue to beg the question as to what representations did Marriott give when they sold us our villa's and what information could MVCI and the Board be afraid of owners finding out about now?

I look forward to your response and request that you share this letter to all owners by the same methods (handout to all guests upon check-in and the newsletter) that you have disseminated your accusations and insinuations regarding the Concerned owners. We will share this response at the Aruba Ocean Club also.

Allan S. Cohen,
 
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