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Marriott 5 night travel package with 100k miles

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How much points are required for 5 night cat 5 with 100k miles
how much points for same as above but cat 6
 

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It says Marriott Bonvoy Owner Specials, I wasn't aware of the 5 days option, is this new or limited in time?
 
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It says Marriott Bonvoy Owner Specials, I wasn't aware of the 5 days option, is this new or limited in time?

5 night packages only available for MVCI owners. Marriott Reward members can only book 7 night.
 

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5 night packages have been available, to MVCI owners, for a long time. Not sure when they started. As far back as I recall, at least 2000?
 

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To MVC owners who are members of the Marriott Vacation Club Destinations Exchange Program... meaning that are members of the points program? Right?
Which I'm not, that's probably why I never (don't) saw the 5 days option in my Bonvoy account...
 

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Not necessarily points program, could just be a weeks owner.
 

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Did you go to the link I posted? I don't think it shows on the bonvoy account side. I )(now) see it actually says members of the destinations program, but, I'd swear I have always used it. Can anyone else confirm the wording is wrong? Is it really destination club owners only? If so, didn't it used to be for all owners?
 

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Did you go to the link I posted? I don't think it shows on the bonvoy account side. I )(now) see it actually says members of the destinations program, but, I'd swear I have always used it. Can anyone else confirm the wording is wrong? Is it really destination club owners only? If so, didn't it used to be for all owners?
We are enrolled owners.
Here is what I see.
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Did you go to the link I posted? I don't think it shows on the bonvoy account side. I )(now) see it actually says members of the destinations program, but, I'd swear I have always used it. Can anyone else confirm the wording is wrong? Is it really destination club owners only? If so, didn't it used to be for all owners?
Hi Steve,

We have never used these Special-Packages as I have always received good value from my Delta [Diamond] Miles. E.g. 120K Miles Round-Trip Business-Class US - Asia. This is now possible with ~200K Miles.

Example-1: Using the 5-Night-Package example CAT-8 + 100K-Miles for 550K-Bonvoy.
How does it work? Do I get 5-Nights in a CAT-8 + 100K-Miles to use for Airfare for 2-Persons?
Bonvoy: Assuming 80K x 5-Nights = 400K -80K-1-Night-Free = 320K for 5-Nights in a CAT-8.
This means I am paying an additional 230K-Bonvoy-Points for 100K-Airline-Miles? 100K-Miles may not get me very far.

Example-2: Using the 5-Night-Package example CAT-5 + 50K-Miles for 235K-Bonvoy.
Do I get 5-Nights in a CAT-5 + 50K-Miles to use for Airfare for 2-Persons?
Bonvoy: Assuming 35K x 5-Nights = 175K -35K-1-Night-Free = 140K for 5-Nights in a CAT-5.
This means I am paying an additional 95K-Bonvoy-Points for 50K-Airline-Miles?
 
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Hi Steve,

We have never used these Special-Packages as I have always received good value from my Delta [Diamond] Miles. E.g. 120K Miles Round-Trip Business-Class US - Asia. This is now possible with ~200K Miles.

Q: Using the 5-Night-Package example CAT-8 + 100K-Miles for 550K-Bonvoy.
How does it work? Do I get 5-Nights in a CAT-8 + 100K-Miles to use for Airfare for 2-Persons?
Bonvoy: Assuming 80K x 5-Nights = 400K -80K-1-Night-Free = 320K for 5-Nights in a CAT-8.
This means I am paying an additional 230-Bonvoy-Points for 100K-Airline-Miles? 100K-Miles may not get me very far.

There are different cost benefits for different category rewards, some are more cost effective than others. That has been analyzed here before. For some category levels or seasons, the cost difference is less. The point of the miles can be this - I am short say 90k United miles to get to Australia. I can simply burn the Bonvoy points to get the amount I am short. We have flown to Australia many times, for $0, both wife and I. So, they can be used to supplement any existing shortage. Category 8 is more than 80k, standard rate is 85k, peak rate is 100k/night, so at peak rate, the math becomes 150k difference for 100k Delta miles. The difference for a cat5 is 170k at standard rate, only 150k at peak rate. Used by night as your example shows, the benefit is different depending on which season. Unlike the per night rates which are based on season, a certificate is good for peak rates. Also, United is 110k miles. Valuing Bonvoy points as the points guy does, 110k United miles are worth $1,430. The 150k Bonvoy points it costs are worth $1,200. Not a bad deal.
 

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Did you go to the link I posted? ...

Yes I did, it brings me to the Marriott Bonvoy Owners Specials page, and when I click on the Please click here for details link it brings me to my Bonvoy account Travel Package page where there is no 5 night package offered...

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Nor does mine, it is not something as far as I know you can purchase online, you have to call. I always called MVCI to order those. I have not done so in a few years though, maybe someone else can chime in with the method. As I said, that's not posted on the bonvoy pages as it is only available to vacation club folks. Marriott is not known for the best computer systems (to be generous).
 

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Nor does mine, it is not something as far as I know you can purchase online, you have to call. I always called MVCI to order those. I have not done so in a few years though, maybe someone else can chime in with the method. As I said, that's not posted on the bonvoy pages as it is only available to vacation club folks. Marriott is not known for the best computer systems (to be generous).
Thank you for your help Steve.
Remains to see when I call if I'm eligible even if I only have resale weeks.
 

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There are different cost benefits for different category rewards, some are more cost effective than others. That has been analyzed here before. For some category levels or seasons, the cost difference is less. The point of the miles can be this - I am short say 90k United miles to get to Australia. I can simply burn the Bonvoy points to get the amount I am short. We have flown to Australia many times, for $0, both wife and I. So, they can be used to supplement any existing shortage. Category 8 is more than 80k, standard rate is 85k, peak rate is 100k/night, so at peak rate, the math becomes 150k difference for 100k Delta miles. The difference for a cat5 is 170k at standard rate, only 150k at peak rate. Used by night as your example shows, the benefit is different depending on which season. Unlike the per night rates which are based on season, a certificate is good for peak rates. Also, United is 110k miles. Valuing Bonvoy points as the points guy does, 110k United miles are worth $1,430. The 150k Bonvoy points it costs are worth $1,200. Not a bad deal.
Thank you Steve. That was very insightful.

Appreciate the details.

BTW: I see the same as QLAVAL [Only 7-Night Packages] when I Click Here.
 

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I still don't understand any more if the wording is correct or not. Can someone who owns a legacy week, has no points, and is not enrolled get the 5 day packages? I am sure I used to, not sure since the wording would imply no.
 

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I vaguely remember that you have to call Marriott, not MVCI to request the 5-Day certificates. And hope you get a rep that has been around awhile.

I definitely ordered mine from MVCI. And that's exactly why I did. But you can't attach the certificate via MVCI for the hotel stay, for that part (when ready), you have to call Marriott. If you try to call Marriott for the 5 day, it might help if you just provide them the code noted in post2. I have always received quick, stellar service when calling MVCI. I guess I trust them more. Wait times for Bonvoy line can be long and you get some untrained people at times. I've never had that issue with MVCI, they answer immediately and they do it. Even 2 weeks ago, I called them and I got right through.
 
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I still don't understand any more if the wording is correct or not. Can someone who owns a legacy week, has no points, and is not enrolled get the 5 day packages? I am sure I used to, not sure since the wording would imply no.
As a non enrolled owner in 2018 I traded for a few of the 5 night travel packages. Have not done any more travel packages after that last major devaluation in late 2018.

What I have done is wait for the special Marriott points to United miles promotions. You get better conversion of Marriott points for United miles. Works for me as I usually don't need the 5 or 7 night certificates. Still have 2 left from 2018. If our travel is cancelled in mid June because of covid19, I will have to use them by Jan 31 2021.

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I still don't understand any more if the wording is correct or not. Can someone who owns a legacy week, has no points, and is not enrolled get the 5 day packages? I am sure I used to, not sure since the wording would imply no.

I own a legacy resale week, no destination points, not enrolled and was able to call MVCI and get 5 day packages in 2018.
 
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