Latest Points manuever

[puckmanfl]

good morning

Rberr...

The odds are zero on that one!!!!

 

[RBERR1]

good morning

Rberr...

The odds are zero on that one!!!!

Puck,
You are right. I called and asked. However, what I thought was interesting was the VOA said that it is one of the top requests that people have asked in terms of ways to improve the system.

Will continue to look to other ways to be creative.

Rich

 

[jont]

good morning...

"drop the puck" is a way of searching for a 7 nite stay when you only have enuf for one in your account. In order to do this,you do need to have converted at least one unit for points. MVCD will let you see availabilty if you are enrolled but have not converted a unit to DC points. You have to call a VOA to do this. If you see a ressie you like, they will put it on hold and convert your unit to DC points. You cannot "wait list" this way however...

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Professor Puck

You don't necessarily have to convert one of you're week to play drop the puck. You could also rent a small amount of points (300-500) off of GregT's site and that should give you enough points to search.
When I play I always search on a wed. which gives me a full sun to sat week. There are some weekends I can't "see" but I can get a pretty good idea. If I'm Interested I could always call the VOA for the weekend dates.

 

[CashEddie]

Is it possible to effectively upgrade an II reservation by using DC pts to either guarantee view or bigger size?

Think of this as a scenario. I have DC pts and II gets me lets say a 2 BR somewhere and lets say to get that through DC pts was 4000 pts. If DC has a 3 bedroom available for 5000 pts. Could you pay 1000 pts to upgrade the 2 BR to a 3 bedroom?

Would be a great trick if it could work. I have a feeling odds are slim on this one.

Rich

I see this as one of the major drawbacks of the DC program. Even if Marriott wanted to charge you a premium on the delta in points to upgrade, I can see some people wanting to utilize this option to make that dream vacation a reality. Granted, us TUGgers have the GregT point rental site and we could rent the points we are missing to make the ressie, but we are the minority.

This would be a major enhancement to the program and would be similar to how the MRP point purchase works today. They may have to wrap some restrictions around it to limit the "gaming" of the system (e.g. You can only purchase up to a specified limit of points needed to make the ressie) but it would make the system more user friendly for the average customer that just wants to get those few extra points to make the special trip work.

 

[m61376]

Actually, Marriott could make money by allowing you to rent point shortfalls- which would be a bonus for them and a way of offsetting the skim and differences between resorts. Of course, it would likely eliminate the point leftovers that often go to waste. It would be nice to trade one's 3000 point week, for example, for a 4500 point reservation and pay let's say $.50 per point as a one time rental. That certainly would increase travel options.

Essentially, this is achievable using Greg's site, but it would be nice if it could be done directly and easily, without shopping for points and hoping the reservations will be available when you have the points you need all together.

I don't anticipate ever seeing this, though- because it would make it tougher to sell additional points, although easier perhaps to make the first sale since it really would add flexibility to the program. Hon well, one can dream.... Hopefully Greg's site will flourish and fill this void.

 

[jont]

Well, there are other places to rent points such as redweek, tugmaketplace and there is even one on ebay right now, but I think
GregT site is the best so far.

 

[jont]

I don't anticipate ever seeing this, though- because it would make it tougher to sell additional points, although easier perhaps to make the first sale since it really would add flexibility to the program. Hon well, one can dream.... Hopefully Greg's site will flourish and fill this void.

Exactly! Why buy points when you can rent them. There is more money in it for marriott to sell points. Otherwise, they would have included this feature with the rollout. They will never rent points as long as they are selling them.

 

[puckmanfl]

Good morning...

Getting back to rberr's original query....

I don't think you will ever be able to upgrade an II exchange using DC points,but I believe someday that enrolled. legacy owners might be able to upgrade the size or view on home resort reservations...

For example... I use my 2 bedroom Ko-Olina mountain view. For extra DC points they let me uptrade to a 3 bedroom ocean view. Of course, I could just convert my original units to Dc points,but then I get skimmed...Perhaps, in a perfect world,they would waive the skim if you upgrade a home resort reservation...

and then I woke up...:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

 

[GregT]

Actually, Marriott could make money by allowing you to rent point shortfalls- which would be a bonus for them and a way of offsetting the skim and differences between resorts. Of course, it would likely eliminate the point leftovers that often go to waste.

I could definitely see this coming in the future, where Marriott charges you ~$1.00 per point to fill out a reservation shortfall. Wyndham lets you rent enough points to fill out the last night of a reservation (you can then rent points for another night) and they charge a hefty premium for it. Disney also does this (single-use point rental), and Marriott has incorporated many of Disney's features already.

Marriott would need a big gap in rental price over their $0.41 MF sale price so they don't compete with retail sales. They have provisions for exactly this feature in their legal docs, I believe they call it Single-Use Points.

All the best,

Greg

 

[jont]

I could definitely see this coming in the future, where Marriott charges you ~$1.00 per point to fill out a reservation shortfall. Wyndham lets you rent enough points to fill out the last night of a reservation (you can then rent points for another night) and they charge a hefty premium for it. Disney also does this (single-use point rental), and Marriott has incorporated many of Disney's features already.

Marriott would need a big gap in rental price over their $0.41 MF sale price so they don't compete with retail sales. They have provisions for exactly this feature in their legal docs, I believe they call it Single-Use Points.

All the best,

Greg

I hope your right Greg. It would be a great feature if Marriott not only sells one time use points but buys back orphaned points. I know, dream on!

 

[SueDonJ]

I could definitely see this coming in the future, where Marriott charges you ~$1.00 per point to fill out a reservation shortfall. Wyndham lets you rent enough points to fill out the last night of a reservation (you can then rent points for another night) and they charge a hefty premium for it. Disney also does this (single-use point rental), and Marriott has incorporated many of Disney's features already.

Marriott would need a big gap in rental price over their $0.41 MF sale price so they don't compete with retail sales. They have provisions for exactly this feature in their legal docs, I believe they call it Single-Use Points.

All the best,

Greg

It's something that I'd like to see, a one-time-per-Use-Year option to buy DC Points to fill out a reservation. But I'm not keeping my fingers crossed waiting for it, not sure at all that it will ever become available.

I don't know anything about Windham's option. The only reason Disney began offering it to DVC members is because they did a complete re-allocation of their calendars several years ago which negatively affected many new owners at Bay Lake Towers, most prior to their first stays. At the time many BLT owners realized prior to their first stays that the amount of Points they'd purchased based on the previous Points Chart, would not be enough for them to book the intervals for which they'd planned. Disney didn't seem all that concerned about the re-allocation affecting other existing owners, but that BLT mess surely drove their decision to offer One-Time Points for sale. It was a way for DVC to satisfy all the complaints from new BLT owners without requiring them to purchase new contracts with ongoing MF obligations..

 

[jont]

I just got into the Wyndham system and I like it's flexibility with their points. It was a good fit for me in that they have a lot of locations that work for me as short stays or weekend getaways, esp up here in the northeast where Marriott doesn't have much of a timeshare presence.