Las Vegas/Grand Canyon over Memorial Day week?

[Ron98GT]

It was a report by Chriskre, but I don't remember if it was in the forums or in the reviews or even if it was on this site. You can message her and ask her for a link.

Here is part of what Chriske wrote in the review:

"

There were many rooms with rowdy parties going on.

We met a few bachelor parties at the pool with 8 plus in a room.

Lots of prostitutes in and out of the hotel at all hours day or night.

I guess this is the norm for Vegas and nobody seemed phased.

We saw a few families with small children.

I'm not sure this resort is suitable for traveling with small children given the party atmosphere.

Maybe an off strip location would have been better.

I'd go back to this resort but probably not during a holiday weekend.

It was fine during the week but once the party weekend started it was just too crowded to really enjoy.

"

Apparently not happy with the party weekend: all those LA people


Like I said, probably just girls dressed for all the clubs in the casino/hotels in the area, and there are a lot of clubs.

 

[Ron98GT]

How about a Black Canyon river rafting drip down the Colorado River, between Boulder/Hoover dam and Willow Beach.

http://blackcanyonadventures.com/raft-tours/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUY0j3nxgo


And don't forget a tour of the dam, including down and inside the dam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn7Xuru2Uxg

 

[John Cummings]

BTW, prostitution within Clark County is illegal. Prostitution is legal over the hump in Pahrump. And dressing trashy, like a prostitute, is common evening wear on the Strip and at the clubs.

Being illegal makes no difference at all. Prostitution is alive and well in Las Vegas. I personally have been propositioned several times while playing the slots at Caesars Palace, the Flamingo, O'Sheas, and Paris. This is probably because I tend to sit by myself as I don't like playing next to anybody. I always point to my wife who is playing elsewhere in the casino and tell them that I need to go ask my wife. I also tell them "do you see that lady over there, she is my wife and if she sees you, you will be dead. That always sends them running. Without exception, the hookers were always very attractive and well dressed.

 

[Ron98GT]

Being illegal makes no difference at all. Prostitution is alive and well in Las Vegas. I personally have been propositioned several times while playing the slots at Caesars Palace, the Flamingo, O'Sheas, and Paris. This is probably because I tend to sit by myself as I don't like playing next to anybody. I always point to my wife who is playing elsewhere in the casino and tell them that I need to go ask my wife. I also tell them "do you see that lady over there, she is my wife and if she sees you, you will be dead. That always sends them running. Without exception, the hookers were always very attractive and well dressed.

To state that "Being illegal makes no difference at all", is a naive come-back.

I never stated that prostitution isn't available or "alive and well in Las Vegas", I'm not that naive. BTW I see more street hookers in Waikiki than I do in Vegas, where-as we probably have more that work the casino's.

When you tell the hooker that you have to ask your wife, do they ever ask you if you want a 3-way?

 

[John Cummings]

To state that "Being illegal makes no difference at all", is a naive come-back.

I never stated that prostitution isn't available or "alive and well in Las Vegas", I'm not that naive. BTW I see more street hookers in Waikiki than I do in Vegas, where-as we probably have more that work the casino's.

When you tell the hooker that you have to ask your wife, do they ever ask you if you want a 3-way?

Of course I don't ask about a 3-way. We are not that depraved. I am just fooling with them.

I have never seen any hookers in Waikiki and we have been there and walked all over.

What is naïve is to state that prostitution is illegal in Clark county implying that because of that it doesn't exist.

 

[Ty1on]

Of course I don't ask about a 3-way. We are not that depraved. I am just fooling with them.

I have never seen any hookers in Waikiki and we have been there and walked all over.

What is naïve is to state that prostitution is illegal in Clark county implying that because of that it doesn't exist.

Not you, the hooker lol

 

[John Cummings]

Not you, the hooker lol

My bad, I read that wrong. Actually they just get up and depart rather quickly.

 

[FLDVCFamily]

So be honest with me...is it a really, really lousy idea to take little kids to Las Vegas? From this thread I'm starting to think so. The one time DH and I went to Vegas was before we had kids, and I admit that I remember thinking that I couldn't believe that anyone would bring kids there lol. Wanting to do things like Hoover Dam and other tourist attractions, we thought Vegas was really centrally located and had great timeshare trade options though...maybe I just need to rethink this and consider Flagstaff or Sedona though I'd prefer not to explain to my 6 year-old what a hooker is:rofl:

 

[Passepartout]

So be honest with me...is it a really, really lousy idea to take little kids to Las Vegas? From this thread I'm starting to think so. The one time DH and I went to Vegas was before we had kids, and I admit that I remember thinking that I couldn't believe that anyone would bring kids there lol. Wanting to do things like Hoover Dam and other tourist attractions, we thought Vegas was really centrally located and had great timeshare trade options though...maybe I just need to rethink this and consider Flagstaff or Sedona though I'd prefer not to explain to my 6 year-old what a hooker is:rofl:

There are great places in Las Vegas to take kids. The Tiger exhibit, The fountain at Bellagio, the Leid Children's Museum, the old Mormon Fort where LV started, there are shows that are appropriate, just not all of them. You may have to tell the kids that It's someplace that some adults go to play adult games. Elaboration isn't necessary. There is hiking, and hanging out by the pool. But there are places young kids just wouldn't understand. Kids today are pretty savvy. They watch TV, and can figure out what's 'for kids', and what isn't.

I wouldn't take kids there expecting some analog of Disneyland. You and they would be disappointed. But I wouldn't NOT take them to Vegas because they might see something they don't understand.

I have traveled to Las Vegas for years, lived there for a time, and never seen a hooker standing on a corner with a price list.

Jim

 

[Ty1on]

There are great places in Las Vegas to take kids. The Tiger exhibit, The fountain at Bellagio, the Leid Children's Museum, the old Mormon Fort where LV started, there are shows that are appropriate, just not all of them. You may have to tell the kids that It's someplace that some adults go to play adult games. Elaboration isn't necessary. There is hiking, and hanging out by the pool. But there are places young kids just wouldn't understand. Kids today are pretty savvy. They watch TV, and can figure out what's 'for kids', and what isn't.

I wouldn't take kids there expecting some analog of Disneyland. You and they would be disappointed. But I wouldn't NOT take them to Vegas because they might see something they don't understand.

I have traveled to Las Vegas for years, lived there for a time, and never seen a hooker standing on a corner with a price list.

Jim

In all honesty, if I didn't live here, I wouldn't bring my daughter to Las Vegas. My vacations are family time, and there are a lot better places to focus on things she would enjoy in addition to her parents. She goes bananastrawberries over the kids' clubs in Mexico, for example, while mom lays on the beach and plays in the surf and I walk the beach in search of violations of Mexican indecent exposure laws. You never know when the fine Mexican police will need witnesses to a crime!

 

[presley]

I'd prefer not to explain to my 6 year-old what a hooker is:rofl:

They will look like most of the people who are there to party. So, I wouldn't worry about that. I think you are right that there are many great things to see in the area. There are many timeshares in Las Vegas that are not on the strip. There are several Worldmarks. I haven't seen those in person, but I know they are not located on the strip.

When my kids were young, I had to go to Vegas because my then 12 year old was competing in a cheerleading competition. We stayed where the competition was (Aladdin, which no longer exists) and I didn't really take my kids out of that resort. We had to be there all day for the competition anyway. Before we got there, I told my kids there would be drunk people everywhere and that I'd tried to keep them away from all that. Sure enough, as soon as we got in the elevator, some drunk lady practically falling over got in their faces, telling them how adorable they were. At least they were expecting it. Some of the other parents took their kids out to look at the various resorts, but since I also had a younger one with me, I just didn't go out and walk around at all.

EDIT TO ADD: I had 3 adults under 21 with me this time. They all had a conference to attend on the strip. They all said they hate Vegas, but they never had the opportunity to leave the strip.

 

[sue1947]

For a trip with kids to Vegas or a trip to see some of the areas out of town, just pick a resort off of the strip. I liked the Monarch Grand Cancun which is now owned by Diamond. It had lots of water slides and things for kids, but also is in a good location to head out of town. The road to the Red Rock Canyon is next to the resort and it was easy to get out of town without too much traffic. There is a shuttle to the strip (as there is for many resorts) is you want to see the casinos as well.

However, if the Grand Canyon or the Red rock country is what you want, Vegas isn't a good option. For that, exchange into Flagstaff or Sedona. The latter has lots of timeshares and also lots of beautiful red rocks to hike in or just to look at. The other option might be St George Utah for access to Zion or Bryce. Vegas has some pretty country around it, but it doesn't compare to the Grand Canyon or Zion.

Sue

 

[FLDVCFamily]

For a trip with kids to Vegas or a trip to see some of the areas out of town, just pick a resort off of the strip. I liked the Monarch Grand Cancun which is now owned by Diamond. It had lots of water slides and things for kids, but also is in a good location to head out of town. The road to the Red Rock Canyon is next to the resort and it was easy to get out of town without too much traffic. There is a shuttle to the strip (as there is for many resorts) is you want to see the casinos as well.

However, if the Grand Canyon or the Red rock country is what you want, Vegas isn't a good option. For that, exchange into Flagstaff or Sedona. The latter has lots of timeshares and also lots of beautiful red rocks to hike in or just to look at. The other option might be St George Utah for access to Zion or Bryce. Vegas has some pretty country around it, but it doesn't compare to the Grand Canyon or Zion.

Sue

Yes, we really want the Grand Canyon, but since we're flying from FL we need to make the most of the high airfare and see a bunch of stuff while we're out there...at least I think we do lol. I'd be very interested in seeing the Southwest (I've been to Vegas, but never AZ or Utah). We don't really hike as a family as my 6 year-old is the kind that still needs a stroller at Disney for part of the day, but we would love to see scenery. I've never seen the Grand Canyon myself, and I really want my kids to see it.

My husband and I took a great tour of Hoover Dam in April, 2001, but I understand that at lot changed there after 9/11. I'm not sure you can still take that kind of in-depth tour. I'd still like my kids to see it though.

Red Rock Canyon sounds great too. I just want them to see something other than the East Coast, and I thought that Vegas might be our best bet for staying in a nice timeshare and exploring that area...maybe I should look into Utah though.

I'll look at the Monarch Grand Cancun also. Waterslides are good with my crew

 

[Passepartout]

Visiting Hoover Dam. (The Dam tour). Go VERY early. The elevators hold a limited number of people and are 1930's vintage- one down, and one up. They give you a timed entry, and when they are gone, they're gone for the day. There is a parking structure at the visitor's center. As you mentioned, access has changed since 9/11.

It's a beautiful, industrial site that shows the pride of workmanship of those who built it, but how much a 6-year-old will get out of it is debatable.

On the other hand, I couldn't hardly get my 6-8 y.o. grandkids out of the Leid Children's Museum (maybe it's changed names now) at closing time. They were captivated- as was their 85+ y.o. great grandfather.

Jim

 

[Ty1on]

Visiting Hoover Dam. (The Dam tour). Go VERY early. The elevators hold a limited number of people and are 1930's vintage- one down, and one up. They give you a timed entry, and when they are gone, they're gone for the day. There is a parking structure at the visitor's center. As you mentioned, access has changed since 9/11.

It's a beautiful, industrial site that shows the pride of workmanship of those who built it, but how much a 6-year-old will get out of it is debatable.

On the other hand, I couldn't hardly get my 6-8 y.o. grandkids out of the Leid Children's Museum (maybe it's changed names now) at closing time. They were captivated- as was their 85+ y.o. great grandfather.

Jim

Nope, still Lied, pronounced like Leed.

Springs Preserve can be a decent outing, too.

 

[John Cummings]

So be honest with me...is it a really, really lousy idea to take little kids to Las Vegas? From this thread I'm starting to think so. The one time DH and I went to Vegas was before we had kids, and I admit that I remember thinking that I couldn't believe that anyone would bring kids there lol. Wanting to do things like Hoover Dam and other tourist attractions, we thought Vegas was really centrally located and had great timeshare trade options though...maybe I just need to rethink this and consider Flagstaff or Sedona though I'd prefer not to explain to my 6 year-old what a hooker is:rofl:

Personally we never took our kids to Las Vegas until they were 21. I don't think it is really a suitable place for kids but that is your decision to make. There are many that will disagree with me and many that will agree.

As far as hookers go, I wouldn't worry about that. There are lots of them but they are not obvious. I would worry more about the people on the street handing out the ads for them. The hookers themselves don't hang out on the street but are in the casinos, etc. and are quite discreet.

 

[Fern Modena]

It is no longer called Lied. It is now called The Discovery Children's Museum, and it is now located in the same area as The Smith Center.

Fern

Nope, still Lied, pronounced like Leed.

Springs Preserve can be a decent outing, too.

 

[Fern Modena]

Gee, John, if it isn't a suitable place for children, maybe all the families who live here need to relocate.

Just guessing, but I think John means The Strip, and I would have to agree with him there. But there are many other child-friendly and family-friendly places. Try Googling Las Vegas with Kids to find many of them. There are at least several websites with this as a focus.

Fern

Personally we never took our kids to Las Vegas until they were 21. I don't think it is really a suitable place for kids but that is your decision to make. There are many that will disagree with me and many that will agree..

 

[Ty1on]

It is no longer called Lied. It is now called The Discovery Children's Museum, and it is now located in the same area as The Smith Center.

Fern

I've heard it called the Lied Discovery Children's Museum. When did this happen?

What's next? Lied Animal Shelter becomes PitBulls-R-Us?

 

[Fern Modena]

When it moved to the new building, I think.

Fern

I've heard it called the Lied Discovery Children's Museum. When did this happen?

What's next? Lied Animal Shelter becomes PitBulls-R-Us?

 

[Ty1on]

When it moved to the new building, I think.

Fern

Wow, like 2 years ago, even

http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/2013/03/11/discovery-childrens-museum-opens/

 

[Fern Modena]

Hey, don't get snarky. You were insistent that it was still Lied. All I did was post the correct info. Now you can't seem to let it go. Let's quit. It's more than done at this point, and so am I. :zzz:

Fern

Wow, like 2 years ago, even

http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/2013/03/11/discovery-childrens-museum-opens/

 

[Ty1on]

Hey, don't get snarky. You were insistent that it was still Lied. All I did was post the correct info. Now you can't seem to let it go. Let's quit. It's more than done at this point, and so am I. :zzz:

Fern

??? I'm expressing surprise that I didn't hear about this.

( I realize that the problem with my being snarky by nature makes others interpret everything I say as snark)

 

[taterhed]

You know, at the risk of getting myself in trouble....

I've been to the 'downtown' areas of many major metro areas over the last 10 years with my kids (teens, now adults). Having said that: if you don't want your kids to see examples of prostitutes, drunks, indigents using the streets as a latrine, drugs, nakedness and inappropriate behavior..... then you should definitely avoid Atlanta, Miami, D.C., Baltimore, Philly, Boston, New York (surprisingly, not the worst), Houston, San Fran, Key West (that end of town), New Orleans... You get my drift?

I admit, Vegas is a bit more 'in your face' with it (it's all those bright lights!) but I find it no more objectionable than any other major city (downtown). As to the individual resorts....well, I can't comment on that. I will say that Vegas was never on my 'hit list' for grade-school children visits, but not for that reason.

Let's face it though: if you don't have family-safe blockers on ALL your internet devices (and your kids friends etc..), your kids have been exposed to the world. If they watch PG-13 movies....ditto. I remember the surprise on a friend's mom's face when I told her what nice activities were buried in the Grand Theft Auto game. Priceless.
'What do you mean you didn't understand "M for Mature" ??' Yes, I agree your son is mature for his age.....

I've always been of the opinion that it's better to explain right from wrong to your kids--and why you feel that way--than to attempt to hide the reality of the world while you're with them, and ignore it when you're not around (internet, movies, games, TV etc...).

I'm not chiding anyone...I understand parents' concerns. JMHO

 

[John Cummings]

Gee, John, if it isn't a suitable place for children, maybe all the families who live here need to relocate.

Just guessing, but I think John means The Strip, and I would have to agree with him there. But there are many other child-friendly and family-friendly places. Try Googling Las Vegas with Kids to find many of them. There are at least several websites with this as a focus.

Fern

Fern, of course I don't mean for the folks living there. I mean on the strip.