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Just attended a presentation/tempted?

tatmtr7

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We are premier plus enrolled owners who just attended a presentation. We were offered the min. package of 1000 pts to join the trust. We were told that we would never be able to travel to the new resorts such as Texas, NY,
Cabo, etc. The presentation was good and no pressure. We really don't need to spend the exxtra $10,000 but we are sure tempted. Any thoughts? Is this truly accurate that we would never be able to use the new resorts or just salesman talk? We thought that perhaps the trust bucket would be so full that some of the new resorts would be put into the legacy owners bucket allowing us to visit the new resorts.
Thanks
 

puckmanfl

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good morning...

Hi..


If you purchase 1000 pts..You can directly access trust inventory with 1000 pts. Your Legacy points remain the same. The buckets have to remain distinct for legal purposes!!!!

A purchase of Trust points does not mrph your Legacy points into Trust points. this is a sales scare tactic!!

Ask your rep to put the statement regarding a purchase of 1000 Trust points makes all your Legacy points Trust in writing!!! My Oceana Palms tour rep would not do this!!!

The sales rep knows that Trust and Legacy points functionally comingle anyway so you wil never know the difference!!!!

I have spent two weeks in Kauai lagoons (trust joint) with my Legacy points..

there are about 10 threads on this....
 

kjd

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They lost me on this one. I don't understand if Marriott built a new resort why they wouldn't put dates into both bucket? The more exposure to the market they get the higher the occupancy rates. Marriott has a history of offering units from more than one source. For example you can book a timeshare through the hotel reservation system anytime you like. You can also access it through MRP's. Aside from that, some of the points owners will offer their points for rent.

This sounds like smoke being blown by the sales staff in order to create a sense of urgency to buy from them. That's why I no longer attend presentations. I hate their sales tactics. There's always something negative laced with an implied threat. A terrible way to do business with these lies and a lot of sales staff have already paid a price because of it.
 

puckmanfl

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good afternoon...

Trust and legacy points have some technical differences..but for the system to work the MUST effectively comingle. The sales reps have to have a "shpiel" to get Legacy owners to purchase Trust Points. The "small purchase of Trust points morphs your Legacy points" is the shpiel....

Ask them to put it in writing!!!!

Remember, the sales staff is also telling NEW Trust purchasers, that t hese new points are way better than Legacy points, to justify the high cost and MF's....They can't have it both ways!!!!
 

Former Cruiser

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I'm guessing if they want my Ocean Watch platinum season week for someone with points, they'll get me into the new ones. From now on I'm doing Request First. I'm not doing Deposit First so they don't take my week without offering me what I'm looking for.
 
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We are premier plus enrolled owners who just attended a presentation. We were offered the min. package of 1000 pts to join the trust. We were told that we would never be able to travel to the new resorts such as Texas, NY,
Cabo, etc. The presentation was good and no pressure. We really don't need to spend the exxtra $10,000 but we are sure tempted. Any thoughts? Is this truly accurate that we would never be able to use the new resorts or just salesman talk? We thought that perhaps the trust bucket would be so full that some of the new resorts would be put into the legacy owners bucket allowing us to visit the new resorts.
Thanks

I'd not give Marriott one penny.

Ask the Sales Rep to provide you with any representations that he/she made in writing. If my memory is right, the contract that they'd ask you to sign says something to the effect of "if it's not in writing, we didn't represent it." So if what he/she is saying is truthful and factual, it must be in writing.

Where there's smoke there's fire.
 

Mamianka

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We are premier plus enrolled owners who just attended a presentation. We were offered the min. package of 1000 pts to join the trust. We were told that we would never be able to travel to the new resorts such as Texas, NY,
Cabo, etc. The presentation was good and no pressure. We really don't need to spend the exxtra $10,000 but we are sure tempted. Any thoughts? Is this truly accurate that we would never be able to use the new resorts or just salesman talk? We thought that perhaps the trust bucket would be so full that some of the new resorts would be put into the legacy owners bucket allowing us to visit the new resorts.
Thanks


WHAT new resorts in NY, Cabo, etc.??? Were you told that they were building them (not likely) or that they were acquiring resorts (already operating under another brand)? The conversations flies fast and loose in all presentations, and they work on the fact that you are *smart* enough and well-heeled enough to have already bought - so that if they fling verbiage at you fast enough, treating you like some kind of *special insider*, that you will snap at the bait again. We have decided to NEVER give Marriott another nickel in purchases - or even buy after-market, since the MF then goes to Marriott, too. Timesharing is not the only thing we do to enjoy ourselves, frankly. We are pretty good at maximizing what we own, and therefore, will not even attend presentations ever again. "No pressure" is the new tactic - "I'm your buddy, give me your money." HA! This whole *new* plan of DC points, spin-off, etc. is so new, that it has not had enough trading cycles (measured in years for many owners) to proof out - and Marriott is still changing its structure, and still hoping we do not comprehend all their *rules* yet. We are sitting on what we have, using it as we please.
 
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