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Jeff Bezos and Oprah Winfrey invest in this asset to keep their wealth safe you may want to do the same in 2024

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This seems to be more of an advertisement for investing as a group in fine art through the Masterworks web site.


yeah, "fine art" may be good for Oprah and Jeff but I'm not sure that it's fine for the average person
 

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Just read the website.

First there is a 1.5% mgmt fee annually, paid in the form of equity. So, if they hold the painting for 10 years, they would own 15% of it. Seems like a EXTREMELY high fee for something like this. What they really don't do anything until they decide to sell it. I am sure they still charge for storage and other expenses (Which they most likely provide at a HIGH premium).

But wait there is more.......

They take 20% of the profit on the sale of the art right off the top. It is calculated based upon the original sales price, so it doesn't take into account the fees paid to Masterworks or the expenses incurred by the investment group.

But if you act now you will also receive.......

An upfront fee.... per website..."one time expense allocation for artwork sourcing, securitization and platform costs". Wouldn't be surprised if it is 10% or more.

Now, I haven't read the agreement, but these sort of 'legal fraud' investments usually have some sort of 2 share classes - one for masterworks and one for the investors. Usually the masterwork share class get preferential payment at full value, before a loss (if there is one) or they might not absorb any of the costs of the investment or sale, while the investor class get hosed.
 

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So, just looked up docs on SEC website. upfront fee is 11%.

There are 2 share classes A and B. A for Investors and B for Masterworks. From the agreement:

Class B shares - The Class B shares of each series initially held by Masterworks Foundry, LLC (“Foundry”) are profit interests that represent 0% of a series’ members’ capital accounts in such series and a 20% interest in the profits recognized upon any sale of the Artwork of such series, after deduction of all management fees and other expenses. In addition, prior to a sale of the Artwork, Class B shares of series may be converted into Class A shares of such series with a value at the time of conversion equal to 20% of the increase in value of the Company’s issued and outstanding Class A and B shares. The authorized number of Class B shares is limited to the number of Class B shares set forth on the Statement of Members’ Equity. The convertible Class B shares have no specified exercise date, exercise price, or expiration. Class B shares for any series have 100% of the voting rights prior to the issuance of Class A shares of such series and no voting rights after the issuance of Class A shares of such series.

It sounds like at least mgmt fees and expenses are taken into account in the calculation of profit - unlike what it says on the website. A little confused about why Class B shares are convertible with a 20% premium of the gain to date. Plus Masterworks is in complete control.
 

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Sounds liked a 1% investment club.
Sounds liked that company that sell masterwork of artists on cruise ships. LOL.
iMHO.
 

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If anyone doubted if this “article” was nothing more than an ad for Masterworks all you need to do is look at the last paragraph.

Get started with Masterworks today and you could make your portfolio as beautiful as a Starry Night”

I am not familiar with Moneywise but this article smells of someone getting a major kick back from Masterworks.
 

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Yep nothing more than paid advertising.
 

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Haha as if TS presenters aren't doing a good enough job of trying take people's money.
 
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