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Is $647 the new minimum for a MVC II Getaway 2 Bedroom for a Week

Getaway prices have candidly just always been an incredible value and maybe the word is getting out more? Lots of youtube channels out there that teach people how to use them etc. (here's looking at you @dioxide45) so it's possible demand has just gone up as more people become aware of them. In any event, they still seem like a pretty good value relative to hotel prices.
 
Getaway prices have candidly just always been an incredible value and maybe the word is getting out more? Lots of youtube channels out there that teach people how to use them etc. (here's looking at you @dioxide45) so it's possible demand has just gone up as more people become aware of them. In any event, they still seem like a pretty good value relative to hotel prices.
Yeah, certainly more information out there today. While I talk about getaways on my channel, they are also promoted on many different social media. There are whole Facebook groups with tens of thousands of people in them. I am but a tiny blip. Certainly the cost of lodging has gone up and it doesn't really seem like getaway prices have kept pace over the past 10-15 years.

That said, it doesn't look like there are fewer getaway weeks out there. I would even say there is probably more inventory this year over last year given that we are seeing a lot more Marriott resorts out there available on Accommodation Certificates. There is also a lot more inventory available in Destinations Escapes under the Abound points program. Yet prices are still higher.
 
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I agree with the observation that there seems to be more weeks. I almost pulled the trigger on a 2BR getaway at Lakeshore Reserve. I should have known better! It was gone in a day or 2.
 
I agree with the observation that there seems to be more weeks. I almost pulled the trigger on a 2BR getaway at Lakeshore Reserve. I should have known better! It was gone in a day or 2.

How much was it and what dates?
 
Nov 1 check in for maybe $807 or $827.
I know I didn't buy it. If it isn't under $500 we just won't go. Though I know for many people that would be a good deal.
 
I know I didn't buy it. If it isn't under $500 we just won't go. Though I know for many people that would be a good deal.
Retail it would be $500 a night so really is a good deal even at twice that.
Just not what it used to be.
I’ve been willing to consider getaways now that there are refundable ones.
 
I know I didn't buy it. If it isn't under $500 we just won't go. Though I know for many people that would be a good deal.

Hard to see a 2 bedroom Lakeshore for under $900. Hard to see a 2 bedroom Lakeshore period between November and March. Using my 2 bedroom Colonies, I can only see 1 bedrooms and studio. Even with an exchange, the all-in cost will be about the same , if I can see the 2 bedroom.
 
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I remember pre-pandemic prices being lower for sure. I recall paying $500 or lower for 1-bdrm MVC DSVI as well as for Westin Desert Willow and Embarc Palm Desert. Off-brand 1-bdrm and even 2-bdrm timeshares in the same area could be had for as low as $199 on ACs. At $800 today, it's still a much better value than a week in a hotel room, but it isn't the bargain it used to be. And unfortunately, we'll probably never see $500 again. During my recent stay, there didn't seem to be fewer people at the resort than in the past.
 
Sheraton Vistana Resort 2 bedroom is $547. Everything else in my MVC search seems to have a minimum of $807 now.
 
My favorite is Kohl's where all the prices in the store are on digital price tags- so they just hike the price on everything with the push of a button and then start a "sale".
That is illegal in some states. https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit...ents/kohls-fake-sale-class-action-settlement/

What is wild is that there is a new class action lawsuit in WI for the same issue. I guess it is cheaper to periodically pay small class action payments and stick with the nearly always on sale model.
 
Interesting development, Marriott weeks in Orlando for September and October have reduced to $647 for 2 BR villas except for MGV and MGR doesn't have a 2BR for the week I'm interested in. Is this normal or an error?

Here's a screenshot to illustrate:
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Interesting development, Marriott weeks in Orlando for September and October have reduced to $647 for 2 BR villas except for MGV and MGR doesn't have a 2BR for the week I'm interested in. Is this normal or an error?

Here's a screenshot to illustrate:
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It is certainly possible that there aren't any 2BR units available for that week.

So a nearly $200 drop in pricing? It seems they are trying to test out the market to see how much people are willing to spend. Given the drop, it seems they weren't willing to spend that much.
 
It is certainly possible that there aren't any 2BR units available for that week.
MGV has a 2BR as a getaway for $847. No thanks! MGR also has a 2BR when I check as an exchange but it isn't showing up as a getaway. I might wait to see if this shows up via AC.
 
I find the Getaways to be an incredible value even at the higher prices. Are people really complaining about having to spend a little over $100 a night for a 2 Bedroom at a nice resort? You really have to compare similar quality hotel prices for the same time period to appreciate the deal. And from Marriott/Interval's point of view, it probably doesn't make sense to be giving away these weeks for $400-$500 a week with the cost of labor, activities, supplies, etc.
 
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And from Marriott/Interval's point of view, it probably doesn't make sense to be giving away these weeks for $400-$500 a week with the cost of labor, activities, supplies, etc.
These are primarily weeks that Interval International (and Marriott) didn't pay anything for. Owners booked their week, paid their fee and deposited into II for free. Some of it may come from bulk deposits by Marriott that it knows simply won't get reserved. There will also be a portion of inventory that the developer paid the fees for, but I don't think that is the bulk of it. Then some of the getaway weeks come from II members who use their week to exchange for a cruise or hotel and II has to rent it out to make the money back they paid for the cruise or hotel. That said, most of the inventory being offered up in getaways was simply given to II. They got it for free. Paid nothing for it. The cost of labor, activities and supplies at the resort level is irrelevant.
 
I agree with the observation that there seems to be more weeks. I almost pulled the trigger on a 2BR getaway at Lakeshore Reserve. I should have known better! It was gone in a day or 2.

Please, if this resort shows up between November and March for a 2 bedroom getaway, post it in the sightings forum.
 
These are primarily weeks that Interval International (and Marriott) didn't pay anything for. Owners booked their week, paid their fee and deposited into II for free. Some of it may come from bulk deposits by Marriott that it knows simply won't get reserved. There will also be a portion of inventory that the developer paid the fees for, but I don't think that is the bulk of it. Then some of the getaway weeks come from II members who use their week to exchange for a cruise or hotel and II has to rent it out to make the money back they paid for the cruise or hotel. That said, most of the inventory being offered up in getaways was simply given to II. They got it for free. Paid nothing for it. The cost of labor, activities and supplies at the resort level is irrelevant.
I do understand all of that but there is still a cost to II/Marriott for renting the room out as opposed to not renting it out so to say the cost of labor, activities and supplies is irrelevant is not true. I just think Marriott's position is that it just is not worth renting these units out under a certain amount anymore. All the supply and labor costs have significantly increased since Covid, so it isn't surprising to me some of the Getaway prices have also increased.
I also think there has to be a floor to these Getaway prices to protect the owners who paid a lot for their week, booked 13 months in advance, only to show up at the pool and find no chairs available because the 3 Getaway rooms with 15-20 guests beat them down there.
And isn't there also the chance Marriott rents nights out directly last minute for more than the Getaway price for a week?
Love your videos Jeremy but you may be more to blame than anyone for me knowing more than I should about Timeshares!
 
I do understand all of that but there is still a cost to II/Marriott for renting the room out as opposed to not renting it out so to say the cost of labor, activities and supplies is irrelevant is not true. I just think Marriott's position is that it just is not worth renting these units out under a certain amount anymore. All the supply and labor costs have significantly increased since Covid, so it isn't surprising to me some of the Getaway prices have also increased.
I also think there has to be a floor to these Getaway prices to protect the owners who paid a lot for their week, booked 13 months in advance, only to show up at the pool and find no chairs available because the 3 Getaway rooms with 15-20 guests beat them down there.
And isn't there also the chance Marriott rents nights out directly last minute for more than the Getaway price for a week?
Love your videos Jeremy but you may be more to blame than anyone for me knowing more than I should about Timeshares!
That's an interesting question, but the thing you're missing is that MFs were often paid. If the MFs don't cover the labor cost then that is the problem. I also wonder if MVC is paying a per task rate or a flat do cleaning fee to the subcontractor? If it's per task, they might save some money by not sending in the maids or risking a maintenance visit from something getting broken / worn out. OTOH, if they're paying for cleaning anyway on a fixed weekly, monthly or yearly rate ... I can't understand saying I don't want 400 or whatever free dollars.


If I was setting it up, I'd go for the fixed rate at some percentage cleaned each week. My WAG is they are setting the cleaning load somewhere to cover 80%ish units needing cleaning in a week, i.e. the 80% occupancy reported for TSs. I would expect to get a discount vs paying per room cleaned each time it's cleaned if I just take out an annual plan.

In my mind, the labor is probably at least 80% already paid for and part of a large purchase yearly.(Could be a subcontractor or could be salaries.) Supplies have to be about as cheap as they can get them, especially the bulk bottles now - maybe $10 a stay for toilet paper and tissues and soap? Electricity and HVAC are the ones that can vary, but if in a week you can bust more than $50 in usage I'd be surprised personally. So we're realistically talking about a floor of maybe $100 to cover transaction costs as well as II fee. IDK, I think this is just - see if people will pay more and leave some otherwise free money in the hope we can get everyone to pay more going forward, nothing to do with actual costs. And if they're still booking their getaways at the higher rate, they're getting MORE free money.

And there's the rub, if they leave 5 units empty out of 50 to fill say, but get $200 more per unit, that's where they make out better than filling those 5 additional rooms but all at $200 less.
 
That's an interesting question, but the thing you're missing is that MFs were often paid. If the MFs don't cover the labor cost then that is the problem. I also wonder if MVC is paying a per task rate or a flat do cleaning fee to the subcontractor? If it's per task, they might save some money by not sending in the maids or risking a maintenance visit from something getting broken / worn out. OTOH, if they're paying for cleaning anyway on a fixed weekly, monthly or yearly rate ... I can't understand saying I don't want 400 or whatever free dollars.


If I was setting it up, I'd go for the fixed rate at some percentage cleaned each week. My WAG is they are setting the cleaning load somewhere to cover 80%ish units needing cleaning in a week, i.e. the 80% occupancy reported for TSs. I would expect to get a discount vs paying per room cleaned each time it's cleaned if I just take out an annual plan.

In my mind, the labor is probably at least 80% already paid for and part of a large purchase yearly.(Could be a subcontractor or could be salaries.) Supplies have to be about as cheap as they can get them, especially the bulk bottles now - maybe $10 a stay for toilet paper and tissues and soap? Electricity and HVAC are the ones that can vary, but if in a week you can bust more than $50 in usage I'd be surprised personally. So we're realistically talking about a floor of maybe $100 to cover transaction costs as well as II fee. IDK, I think this is just - see if people will pay more and leave some otherwise free money in the hope we can get everyone to pay more going forward, nothing to do with actual costs. And if they're still booking their getaways at the higher rate, they're getting MORE free money.

And there's the rub, if they leave 5 units empty out of 50 to fill say, but get $200 more per unit, that's where they make out better than filling those 5 additional rooms but all at $200 less.
But my point was that all of those costs are already paid for in the maintenance fee for the week. None of that comes out of Marriott's pocket, it all comes out from the owner. Marriott also has less revenue if unit sits empty as there aren't guests staying and spending money at the resort restaurants, bar and marketplace.

I think their goal is simply to maximize revenue and adjust prices to see what the market will bear. If they are still renting weeks at the higher prices then there is no need to lower the prices. Given that prices dropped by about $200 for some of those MGV weeks would seem to indicate people weren't willing to pay the higher prices.

I also think there has to be a floor to these Getaway prices to protect the owners who paid a lot for their week, booked 13 months in advance, only to show up at the pool and find no chairs available because the 3 Getaway rooms with 15-20 guests beat them down there.
I don't think Marriott really cares that much about this. They want to fill rooms. Full rooms mean people potentially spending money at the resort on overpriced booze and food. 15-20 guests is their ideal situation. The resorts were built out based on some type of capacity to amenity ratio, so I don't think they even consider that when renting room. They really don't want empty rooms and any kind of breakage in II means lost revenue for II since II got most of these weeks for $0.
 
That's an interesting question, but the thing you're missing is that MFs were often paid. If the MFs don't cover the labor cost then that is the problem. I also wonder if MVC is paying a per task rate or a flat do cleaning fee to the subcontractor? If it's per task, they might save some money by not sending in the maids or risking a maintenance visit from something getting broken / worn out. OTOH, if they're paying for cleaning anyway on a fixed weekly, monthly or yearly rate ... I can't understand saying I don't want 400 or whatever free dollars.


If I was setting it up, I'd go for the fixed rate at some percentage cleaned each week. My WAG is they are setting the cleaning load somewhere to cover 80%ish units needing cleaning in a week, i.e. the 80% occupancy reported for TSs. I would expect to get a discount vs paying per room cleaned each time it's cleaned if I just take out an annual plan.

In my mind, the labor is probably at least 80% already paid for and part of a large purchase yearly.(Could be a subcontractor or could be salaries.) Supplies have to be about as cheap as they can get them, especially the bulk bottles now - maybe $10 a stay for toilet paper and tissues and soap? Electricity and HVAC are the ones that can vary, but if in a week you can bust more than $50 in usage I'd be surprised personally. So we're realistically talking about a floor of maybe $100 to cover transaction costs as well as II fee. IDK, I think this is just - see if people will pay more and leave some otherwise free money in the hope we can get everyone to pay more going forward, nothing to do with actual costs. And if they're still booking their getaways at the higher rate, they're getting MORE free money.

And there's the rub, if they leave 5 units empty out of 50 to fill say, but get $200 more per unit, that's where they make out better than filling those 5 additional rooms but all at $200 less.
I agree with others, neither MVC nor II car much about the floor other than filling up the rooms for as much as they can get for them. The resorts are designed to be at full capacity so there's no need to "protect" the other guests/owners from those who get a deal. We're all trying to get the most for the least cost. And really once they go to II, it's II's decision and problem. II doesn't even care if the cost to the resort is more than they sell the unit for if that's all they can get out of it.
 
I can't remember seeing 2BR Getaway for $597/week (regular member price) recently and there are a bunch at several Marriott Orlando resorts for October and November. Hopefully this is a start of a new trend.

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I’ll be honest
I find Interval has a higher quality of timeshare units, in most cases … but RCI has a better price point, unfortunately that’s been my experience
Maybe I don’t know how to utilize Interval properly … but frankly I book a lot more with RCI. I personally keep both accounts because I can usually find something worthwhile in one or the other, plus Interval gives away guest certificates that help defray cost etc. I would love to hear others experiences
 
@Pennytx I am just about to post 2 Marriott properties I found with an AC from deposit, one in Maui and one in Miami. There's an AC sightings thread.
 
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