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So my January trip to disney world ballooned from 5 to 8 of us going and our airline has already changed our departing flight to earlier in the day for our return trip home. I originally was going to get a room near Sanford airport the night before we left since we have to be at the airport by 4am and return our rental car but now with 8 of us im not interested in spending that much more money on 2 rooms especially since its likely ill need to sell both arms and legs as well as a few internal organs to pay for everything we spend while at disney world.

So how bad is the traffic on I4 at 2:30-3 am on a Saturday morning between Disney and Sanford airport?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
 

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So how bad is the traffic on I4 at 2:30-3 am on a Saturday morning between Disney and Sanford airport?
Nonexistent.
 

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Thanks for the information, not overly excited about driving in an unfamiliar place already.
I have, unfortunately had to make this drive once due to a very delayed flight into Sanford. I-4 was empty in both directions from what I could see at around 1:00 AM. I have to imagine it'll stay empty around 2:30-3:00. The airport itself is very easy. Is the flight 6 am? You probably don't need to get there the full 2 hours in advance given that it is a smaller airport and it is such an early flight.
 

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Thanks for the information, not overly excited about driving in an unfamiliar place already.
If you have Waze on your phone, you can set it to avoid toll roads and let your app be your travel guide to where you are going.
 

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I live in Central Florida and as bad as traffic can be on I-4, at 2-3am, you will have zero traffic. On weekdays it starts getting bad around 6am and is pretty much awful all day and weekends too, but get started around 8 or 9am.

Are you flying into Sanford? If so, I doubt the rental car agency will be open that late, or if they even have one at Sanford airport. At MCO, they are probably 24/7
 

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I live in Central Florida and as bad as traffic can be on I-4, at 2-3am, you will have zero traffic. On weekdays it starts getting bad around 6am and is pretty much awful all day and weekends too, but get started around 8 or 9am.

Are you flying into Sanford? If so, I doubt the rental car agency will be open that late, or if they even have one at Sanford airport. At MCO, they are probably 24/7
He's flying back from Sanford, but I can confirm that the rental car agencies at Sanford (at least the big ones) are open till 11:00 PM each night. I think Dollar might only be open till 10 pm. I've flown into Sanford many times. It is a much nicer/easier/smaller airport than MCO.
 

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I live in Central Florida and as bad as traffic can be on I-4, at 2-3am, you will have zero traffic. On weekdays it starts getting bad around 6am and is pretty much awful all day and weekends too, but get started around 8 or 9am.

Are you flying into Sanford? If so, I doubt the rental car agency will be open that late, or if they even have one at Sanford airport. At MCO, they are probably 24/7
Due to some fairly horrible experiences with layovers whenever possible we either fly direct flights or private if we can afford it. In this case we found a direct flight from Tulsa to Sanford and from Sanford to Tulsa. From where I live Tulsa is a little longer drive, but i have family that will keep our vehicle so no parking fees. As far as the rental car agency goes I booked it thru Costco after calling them directly. Apparently they can take the car back for that early of a flight according to the agent I spoke with. Maybe they are fibbing I dont know. I have a half a mind to return the car Friday evening and schedule a private car for pick up Saturday morning just so I dont have to mess with it as we typically use a private car service when vacationing in Orlando. I have to rent one due to no shuttle from Bonnet creek....... Not the worst outcome but I typically like to not have to worry about driving, especially if I might want an adult beverage or 2 while in the parks, because my wife sure aint driving anywhere busy. Ill inquire more about the drop off situation.
 

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I have, unfortunately had to make this drive once due to a very delayed flight into Sanford. I-4 was empty in both directions from what I could see at around 1:00 AM. I have to imagine it'll stay empty around 2:30-3:00. The airport itself is very easy. Is the flight 6 am? You probably don't need to get there the full 2 hours in advance given that it is a smaller airport and it is such an early flight.
Well that may be the case, but im gonna get there early none the less especially with 8 of us and our luck so far traveling commercial.
If you have Waze on your phone, you can set it to avoid toll roads and let your app be your travel guide to where you are going.
Its more I dont want to have to drive, especially with 7 other people in the car. At that point it becomes less a vacation and a frustration dealing with everyone in the car and everyone on the road in an unfamiliar place with who knows how many other people that are unfamiliar with it too. Maybe im reading too much into it but i have plenty of wonderful memories of just my family in the car with me in various places with heavy traffic........... my wife bless her heart gets pretty bad anxiety in heavy traffic and that tends to rub off on the kids making it less then enjoyable but ironically if we have a private driver or are on a bus (or are driving around in a ferrari or lamborgini, there is an inside joke there that only she would get) shes perfectly fine. I think its more I can distract and talk to her in those situations and shes not watching traffic.
 

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Well that may be the case, but im gonna get there early none the less especially with 8 of us and our luck so far traveling commercial.

Its more I dont want to have to drive, especially with 7 other people in the car. At that point it becomes less a vacation and a frustration dealing with everyone in the car and everyone on the road in an unfamiliar place with who knows how many other people that are unfamiliar with it too. Maybe im reading too much into it but i have plenty of wonderful memories of just my family in the car with me in various places with heavy traffic........... my wife bless her heart gets pretty bad anxiety in heavy traffic and that tends to rub off on the kids making it less then enjoyable but ironically if we have a private driver or are on a bus (or are driving around in a ferrari or lamborgini, there is an inside joke there that only she would get) shes perfectly fine. I think its more I can distract and talk to her in those situations and shes not watching traffic.
I dont know, maybe it is just worth it to get a hotel right outside the airport. This sounds not very fun for you.

You could also hire a car service to take you. Tiffany Town Car (I’ve used them several times, highly recommend) has passenger vans that would fit all of you. Then you don’t have to worry about making the drive in the middle of the night.
 

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sunpass for i4 is a gamechanger...might even be worth buying just for a single visit!
 

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sunpass for i4 is a gamechanger...might even be worth buying just for a single visit!
Agreed. I purchased one just for my FL trips. Ezpass now also works so if you have that you can just bring it with you.
 

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I dont know, maybe it is just worth it to get a hotel right outside the airport. This sounds not very fun for you.

You could also hire a car service to take you. Tiffany Town Car (I’ve used them several times, highly recommend) has passenger vans that would fit all of you. Then you don’t have to worry about making the drive in the middle of the night.
yeah im excited about bonnet creek, i hear its a nice resort. Im excited about the trip, especially Tuesday and Wednesday since im really there for business with Disney we just turned it into a family vacation. im super not excited there isnt any park transportation, and any way i look at it the most cost effective strategy is to rent a car, specifically a big suv or van. Ive used private car services on prior trips to Orlando and love it but ive always stayed at a universal or Disney property. I considered getting rooms near the airport, but upon looking and calling a few id probably need 2 rooms and they cant guarentee they would be next to each other never mind the added expense. After talking to my wife she suggested asking about the traffic on here and staying at bonnet creek and leaving in the wee hours of the morning since that room is "paid for".

The second plan im contemplating is return the car friday, uber back and hireing a van for saturday moring.

the last thing im considering is cancelling my rental at the airport and having a car service take us to and from the resort, and renting a car there, i was told there was a car rental place near there.

if i take option 2 its a minor financial cost. If i do option 3 might cost more overall but be less stressful. Would be nice if Bonnet creek somehow reinstated shuttle service. but im not holding my breath.

Ultimately I may wind up with a small DVC contract, its a certainty if things go well next year. That way if i go on buisness we will have the disney transportation service and i wont have to worry about anyone getting around the park especially if im busy doing buisness.

At the end of the day it might not be a big deal. But I want to be prepared either way.
sunpass for i4 is a gamechanger...might even be worth buying just for a single visit!
Not sure what that is, but supposedly our pass system in kansas works in florida. But i was warned that there are SOME tolls it doesnt cover. Ill look up the sunpass.
 

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yes, its a digital toll pass system allowing you access to extra lanes on i4 through some of the worst areas.
 

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Not sure what that is, but supposedly our pass system in kansas works in florida. But i was warned that there are SOME tolls it doesnt cover. Ill look up the sunpass.
They just upgraded the toll roads so that there is a ton of reciprocity. Your pass from Kansas probably does work. My Ezpass from New York does now.
 

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yes, its a digital toll pass system allowing you access to extra lanes on i4 through some of the worst areas.
They just upgraded the toll roads so that there is a ton of reciprocity. Your pass from Kansas probably does work. My Ezpass from New York does now.
i just doublechecked my rental agreement and here is the details regarding sunpass. ( $4.95 per day when tolls are incurred ($30 maximum per rental period). So if im reading this correctly ill only be charged $4.95 per day i actually incur a toll. there is no verbage about the actual toll however so i may be on the hook for those as well. But i would have to get a portable transponder from the state of Kansas, and it certainly costs more then $9.90. Even if i have to pay the tolls, which i would anyways with my own transponder, it seems cheaper to just pay the daily fee to use their transponder. Unless there is a toll road from bonnet creek to disneyworld parking areas. I dont forsee using a toll road except the trip to the resort and the trip to the airport.
 

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Unless there is a toll road from bonnet creek to disneyworld parking areas.
There is not, you are correct. I just assumed you had a responder already from Kansas. You don’t have one on suction cups that you can just move from car to car?
 

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There is not, you are correct. I just assumed you had a responder already from Kansas. You don’t have one on suction cups that you can just move from car to car?
no in our state you get one that affixes permanently to your windsheild that is directly tied to the vehicle and tag. those are free. they do offer a portable one for a fee. I think its 30 bucks if memory serve where the permanent ones are free.
 

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florida does toll by plate now, but you would want to verify you can access the sunpass lanes vs just regular toll lanes. the fine for getting in the sunpass bypass lanes is like 25 bucks. and it would be just like a rental company to claim the "fines" arent part of the toll limit!

that said, id imagine most rental fleets probably have a sunpass account for cars especially in Orlando. never hurts to confirm though!
 
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I work at Disney's Hollywood Studios as a bus driver, and I usually get out between 11pm-1am. As others have said, between 11pm and 7am, there is no traffic between WDW and Sanford (I live about 10 minutes north of Sanford). The DOT occasionally shuts down a lane for construction, but that rarely causes a backup.

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florida does toll by plate now, but you would want to verify you can access the sunpass lanes vs just regular toll lanes. the fine for getting in the sunpass bypass lanes is like 25 bucks. and it would be just like a rental company to claim the "fines" arent part of the toll limit!

that said, id imagine most rental fleets probably have a sunpass account for cars especially in Orlando. never hurts to confirm though!
Kansas recently converted to toll by plate as well, however they still offer the ktag transponders that affix to the windsheild and the "portable" ktag transponders. If you have one of either of those devices you get a discount on tolls. And per the KTA website if you have the ktag you get a 50% discount on tolls ect ect. Also on the web site it has a number of programs that is accepted by the ktag network and it indeed shows sunpass as one of the partners. I dont know about all the states but in Kansas Oklahoma and Texas, which always were partnered with the KTA prior to the recent updates that instituted toll by plate, I indeed do receive a 50% discount on tolls.

All that said I did ask about the tolling when I called the rental agency and they claimed to have sunpass. The information on the website for all 3 rental companies I considered had verbiage pertaining to sunpass and that is where I copied and pasted the information about the rates. The company I ultimately went with is Alamo and used my costco member discount. I will make sure to inquire about the sunpass at the time of rental though just to be sure. As you have said i have seen some weird stuff in my time and want to be sure i have it spelled out and shown to me in writing so in the event something odd happens I can point it out.

All that said this is exactly why not having transportation at bonnet creek to and from the parks is kinda an inconvenience. As I stated before every other trip I have ever taken I hired a private car service to transport me to and from the airport and then relied on park transportation while at the resort. As close to the parks as Bonnet creek is it is ashame they no longer have shuttle service. I know things were quite different pre covid and it was at disneyland but even non disney owned properties had hourly transportation at disneyland. Im not even expecting service to every park in orlando but service to say disneysprings or the TTC would be enough. I know ive read about people who are fine with renting and driving. And if that works for them thats great. Its more of a hassle for me though. Someone mentioned to me in another thread that perhaps one of the resorts close to BC had transportation I could purchase. Seems to me like thats a big gamble however if its true and not overly inconvinient could be a reasonable option.
 

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You absolutely should not need to use any toll roads to get from Bonnet Creek to Sanford Airport, or anywhere else in Orlando. You can completely avoid them and this will be a non-issue.

Going back to your flight, is the airline Allegiant? If so, I would be more worried about them than your car. My experiences with them have not been great.

Regarding shuttle service. Even when they still had it, it was not exactly cheap. If you were taking more than a trip or 2 with a family of 4, a rental car became much more cost effective. And also, this is Florida, you need a car to do anything,. People don't understand this, but this state was built around having access to a vehicle.
 

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You absolutely should not need to use any toll roads to get from Bonnet Creek to Sanford Airport, or anywhere else in Orlando. You can completely avoid them and this will be a non-issue.

Going back to your flight, is the airline Allegiant? If so, I would be more worried about them than your car. My experiences with them have not been great.

Regarding shuttle service. Even when they still had it, it was not exactly cheap. If you were taking more than a trip or 2 with a family of 4, a rental car became much more cost effective. And also, this is Florida, you need a car to do anything,. People don't understand this, but this state was built around having access to a vehicle.
Ive vacationed in Orlando multiple times and this will be the first time I've rented a car...... Usually its a trip to just disney, just universal, or both universal and disney. in all those cases previously I hired a private transport service to move us to and from the airport and between parks then relied on the parks transportation and for the most part if we couldnt reach it by foot or any of the other offered modes of transport we sure didnt miss it.

And i want to be clear that I personally have no issue driving nearly anywhere, except Atlanta I really dont like Atlanta. The issue comes from the anxietey my wife has which in turn riles everyone else up which significantly adds to my stress level. the very first trip we ever went on as a family we drove to disneyland......... that wasnt pleasant and have flown most places since. she seems fine if we are in a bus or private car. I asked her if shes nervous about MY driving and she said no it was more that I was sitting next to her and distracting and focused on her.

Yes the airline is Allegiant, it was the only carrier that has a direct flight to Orlando anywhere near driving distance to us. I havent had any issues, yet, with Allegiant except they have already changed the flight times for both flights a couple of times and now our flight home is 6:05 am instead of the 10:00 am it originally was when I first booked. At this point it would not surprise me if it changed yet again. Also Im just overly weary of airlines in general, they have one job to do and they cant seem to get it done a lot of times. I have noticed that usualy the earlier you fly the "better" it is for Hiccups. American airlines on the other hand....... Yeah Id rather drive then fly American EVER again. Overall commercial flights on the whole are kinda terrible in general. Then there is the few times we charter private, which had we known at the start we would have had a group this big would have been somewhat cost effective, but at the time there were only 5 of us going when I started booking and the cost just didnt make a lot of sense. Plus private charter rates seem to be UP quite a bit over the last several months. But if i had the means to not worry about the cost having flown private a few times I would always fly that way as I prefer it over the commercial nonsence. But while I can afford it sometimes its sure not something I can afford to do all the time.

Im also aware that there is the option to avoid I4 all together however it seems to be the most direct route. As stated before I typically never got to see where we were going since I usually was talking to my wife in the suv or van we were in. Again if money wernt an issue id just uber or Lytf everywhere, or hire a private driver for all our transportation needs. I have no experience with what Bonnet had before, so thats kinda good to know that the service wasnt so great, I guess.

What it might wind up making us do is to purchase a small, 150 point contract, DVC. Basically, and I admit its a real first world problem but a problem none the less, I have really enjoyed not having to worry about driving when on vacation in the orlando area so far. Those typically were the vacations where I knew I could fully relax most of the time.
 
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