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ILG Takeover Delayed until [UPDATE: May 11: Midnight]

I think it's Embassy Suites. I just got home and did not have time to dig out the binder yet. I will check into it tomorrow.
 
My document says "Vistana Development, LTD., a Florida limited partnership ("Developer")..." looks like it was an independent company.
 
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Other than Shell mentioning the connection to Vistana, I can't find anything else showing that they were ever linked.
 
My question is, all the articles that I have read, Vistana had far more resorts than Starwood has today. What did Starwood do with those properties over the years.

Here are just a few;
  • World Golf Village
  • Villas of Cave Creek, near Scottsdale, Arizona
  • Eagle Point Reserve in Vail, Colorado
  • Falcon Point Resort in Avon, Colorado
  • Embassy Vacation Resort, which The Myrtle Beach resort was one
  • Hampton Vacation Resort, which Oak Plantation Villas in Kissimmee was one
  • Homewood Vacation Resort

Those last three are all brands now under Hilton ownership. Though not from a timeshare perspective. They appear to have no relation to Grand Vacations, Limited which I learned Hilton partnered with to create Hilton Grand Vacation Club.
 
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For years, Villas of Cave Creek, was Starwood managed, but not in the SVN.

Maybe 3-5 years ago, they made an agreement to make it part of the SVN, and they were part of it for 1-2 years, but then the board got rid of Starwood as the Mgmt. company and withdrew from the SVN.

As I recall, Starwood either wanted to raise the MF, or have a SA to bring the resort "up to their standards," and the BOD wasn't having it.
 
dioxide45 said:
My question is, all the articles that I have read, Vistana had far more resorts than Starwood has today. What did Starwood do with those properties over the years.

Here are just a few;
  • World Golf Village
  • Villas of Cave Creek, near Scottsdale, Arizona
  • Eagle Point Reserve in Vail, Colorado
  • Falcon Point Resort in Avon, Colorado
  • Embassy Vacation Resort, which The Myrtle Beach resort was one
  • Hampton Vacation Resort, which Oak Plantation Villas in Kissimmee was one
  • Homewood Vacation Resort
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I stayed at Falcon Point a couple of years ago. It's right next to Lakeside Terrace. It's a nice little resort, but nowhere near the same quality level as the Starwood resorts.
 
dioxide45 said:
My question is, all the articles that I have read, Vistana had far more resorts than Starwood has today. What did Starwood do with those properties over the years.

Here are just a few;
  • World Golf Village
  • Villas of Cave Creek, near Scottsdale, Arizona
  • Eagle Point Reserve in Vail, Colorado
  • Falcon Point Resort in Avon, Colorado
  • Embassy Vacation Resort, which The Myrtle Beach resort was one
  • Hampton Vacation Resort, which Oak Plantation Villas in Kissimmee was one
  • Homewood Vacation Resort

Those last three are all brands now under Hilton ownership. Though not from a timeshare perspective. They appear to have no relation to Grand Vacations, Limited which I learned Hilton partnered with to create Hilton Grand Vacation Club.
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As per this article, http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/starwood-to-acquire-vistana-inc-73613452.html, when Starwood acquired Vistana Inc, Vistana Inc had 10 resorts:
  1. Vistana Resort in Orlando. Now Sheraton Vistana Resort.
  2. Hampton Vacation Resorts-Oak Plantation in Kissimmee. Now Oak Plantation Vacation Ownership Resort, a non Starwood resort.
  3. Vistana Resort at World Golf Village near St. Augustine. Now the hotel Sheraton Vistana Resort at World Golf Village.
  4. Vistana's Beach Club on Hutchison Island. Still Vistana's Beach Club, a Starwood resort.
  5. Eagle Point in Vail. Still Eagle Point but now a non Starwood resort.
  6. Falcon Point in Avon. Still Falcon Point but now a non Starwood resort.
  7. Lakeside Terrace in Avon. Now Lakeside Terrace in the Vail Valley, a Starwood resort.
  8. Embassy Vacation Resort at Myrtle Beach. Now the Sheraton Broadway Plantation as per http://www.tug2.net/timeshare_advice/Starwood_Vacation_Network.htm.
  9. Villas of Cave Creek, north of Scottsdale. Still Villas of Cave Creek but now a non Starwood resort.
  10. Embassy Vacation Resort in Scottsdale. Now the Sheraton Desert Oasis as per http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2001/01/15/newscolumn4.html
Vistana Inc had 3 new resorts planned :
  1. PGA Vacation Resort by Vistana in Port St. Lucie, Florida. Now Sheraton PGA Vacation Resort.
  2. Harborside at Atlantis on Paradise Island in the Bahamas. Now Harborside at Atlantis, a Starwood resort.
  3. A large successor property to Vistana's flagship Vistana Resort in Orlando. May be now the Sheraton Vistana Villages.
Promus Hotel Corporation was the franchisor and operator of the Embassy Suites, Hampton Inn, Hampton Inn & Suites, Homewood Suites, Embassy Vacation Resort and Hampton Vacation Resort brands. This is why many Embassy Vacation Resort were not a property of Vistana Inc. but a property of Signature Resorts, Inc. (they changed the company name to Sunterra Corporation in 1998 and they have been acquired by Diamond Resort International in 2007) like:
Grand Beach in Orlando, Florida. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Point at Poipu in Kauai, Hawaii. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Ka'anapali Beach Club in Maui, Hawaii. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Lake Tahoe Vacation Resort in South Lake Tahoe, California. Now a Diamond Resort property.

From this article,http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-inc-announces-six-new-projects-77257112.html , Signature Resorts Inc has built the Westin in Rancho Mirage. In addition, in March 1998, Signature received final planning, zoning and development approval for the planned development of the 158 unit Westin Vacation Club in Rancho Mirage, California, the Company's second joint venture with Westin Hotels & Resorts (the first joint venture was the Westin in St-John US Virgin Islands as per http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Signa...t+of+First+Westin+Vacation+Club...-a018943165).

If Diamond Resorts have bought SVN/VSE in place of ILG then some Westin would have been return to their original co-owner (Signature Resorts -> Sunterra -> Diamond Resorts).

Starwood, a real estate acquisition company, bought Westin and Sheraton in 1998, Vistana inc in 1999 and they bought the Signature Resorts participation in the 2 Westin Vacation Club in 1999 as per http://www.getfilings.com/o0000931763-00-000804.html.
 
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youppi said:
As per this article, http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/starwood-to-acquire-vistana-inc-73613452.html, when Starwood acquired Vistana, Vistana had 10 resorts:
  1. Vistana Resort in Orlando. Now Sheraton Vistana Resort.
  2. Hampton Vacation Resorts-Oak Plantation in Kissimmee. Now Oak Plantation Vacation Ownership Resort, a non Starwood resort.
  3. Vistana Resort at World Golf Village near St. Augustine. Now the hotel Sheraton Vistana Resort at World Golf Village.
  4. Vistana's Beach Club on Hutchison Island. Still Vistana's Beach Club, a Starwood resort.
  5. Eagle Point in Vail. Still Eagle Point but now a non Starwood resort.
  6. Falcon Point in Avon. Still Falcon Point but now a non Starwood resort.
  7. Lakeside Terrace in Avon. Now Lakeside Terrace in the Vail Valley, a Starwood resort.
  8. Embassy Vacation Resort at Myrtle Beach. May be now the Sheraton Broadway Plantation.
  9. Villas of Cave Creek, north of Scottsdale. Still Villas of Cave Creek but now a non Starwood resort.
  10. Embassy Vacation Resort in Scottsdale. Now the Sheraton Desert Oasis as per http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2001/01/15/newscolumn4.html
Vistana had 3 new resorts planned :
  1. PGA Vacation Resort by Vistana in Port St. Lucie, Florida. Now Sheraton PGA Vacation Resort.
  2. Harborside at Atlantis on Paradise Island in the Bahamas. Now Harborside at Atlantis, a Starwood resort.
  3. A large successor property to Vistana's flagship Vistana Resort in Orlando. May be now the Sheraton Vistana Villages.
Promus Hotel Corporation was the franchisor and operator of the Embassy Suites, Hampton Inn, Hampton Inn & Suites, Homewood Suites, Embassy Vacation Resort and Hampton Vacation Resort brands. This is why many Embassy Vacation Resort were not a property of Vistana Inc. but a property of Signature Resorts, Inc. (they changed the company name to Sunterra Corporation later and they have been acquired by Diamond Resort International some years after) like:
Grand Beach in Orlando, Florida. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Point at Poipu in Kauai, Hawaii. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Ka'anapali Beach Club in Maui, Hawaii. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Lake Tahoe Vacation Resort in South Lake Tahoe, California. Now a Diamond Resort property.
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To add to my previous post, I have communication from Starwood when they bought SVR at Orlando. Vistana never went the way of Shell or any other company in between being an independent company to Starwood.
 
youppi said:
As per this article, http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/starwood-to-acquire-vistana-inc-73613452.html, when Starwood acquired Vistana Inc, Vistana Inc had 10 resorts:
  1. Vistana Resort in Orlando. Now Sheraton Vistana Resort.
  2. Hampton Vacation Resorts-Oak Plantation in Kissimmee. Now Oak Plantation Vacation Ownership Resort, a non Starwood resort.
  3. Vistana Resort at World Golf Village near St. Augustine. Now the hotel Sheraton Vistana Resort at World Golf Village.
  4. Vistana's Beach Club on Hutchison Island. Still Vistana's Beach Club, a Starwood resort.
  5. Eagle Point in Vail. Still Eagle Point but now a non Starwood resort.
  6. Falcon Point in Avon. Still Falcon Point but now a non Starwood resort.
  7. Lakeside Terrace in Avon. Now Lakeside Terrace in the Vail Valley, a Starwood resort.
  8. Embassy Vacation Resort at Myrtle Beach. Now the Sheraton Broadway Plantation as per http://www.tug2.net/timeshare_advice/Starwood_Vacation_Network.htm.
  9. Villas of Cave Creek, north of Scottsdale. Still Villas of Cave Creek but now a non Starwood resort.
  10. Embassy Vacation Resort in Scottsdale. Now the Sheraton Desert Oasis as per http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2001/01/15/newscolumn4.html
Vistana Inc had 3 new resorts planned :
  1. PGA Vacation Resort by Vistana in Port St. Lucie, Florida. Now Sheraton PGA Vacation Resort.
  2. Harborside at Atlantis on Paradise Island in the Bahamas. Now Harborside at Atlantis, a Starwood resort.
  3. A large successor property to Vistana's flagship Vistana Resort in Orlando. May be now the Sheraton Vistana Villages.
Promus Hotel Corporation was the franchisor and operator of the Embassy Suites, Hampton Inn, Hampton Inn & Suites, Homewood Suites, Embassy Vacation Resort and Hampton Vacation Resort brands. This is why many Embassy Vacation Resort were not a property of Vistana Inc. but a property of Signature Resorts, Inc. (they changed the company name to Sunterra Corporation in 1998 and they have been acquired by Diamond Resort International in 2007) like:
Grand Beach in Orlando, Florida. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Point at Poipu in Kauai, Hawaii. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Ka'anapali Beach Club in Maui, Hawaii. Now a Diamond Resort property.
Lake Tahoe Vacation Resort in South Lake Tahoe, California. Now a Diamond Resort property.

From this article,http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-inc-announces-six-new-projects-77257112.html , Signature Resorts Inc has built the Westin in Rancho Mirage. In addition, in March 1998, Signature received final planning, zoning and development approval for the planned development of the 158 unit Westin Vacation Club in Rancho Mirage, California, the Company's second joint venture with Westin Hotels & Resorts (the first joint venture was the Westin in St-John US Virgin Islands as per http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Signa...t+of+First+Westin+Vacation+Club...-a018943165).

If Diamond Resorts have bought SVN/VSE in place of ILG then some Westin would have been return to their original co-owner (Signature Resorts -> Sunterra -> Diamond Resorts).

Starwood, a real estate acquisition company, bought Westin and Sheraton in 1998, Vistana inc in 1999 and they bought the Signature Resorts participation in the 2 Westin Vacation Club in 1999 as per http://www.getfilings.com/o0000931763-00-000804.html.
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Thanks for this. An interesting read. Interesting to see how things have changed in the industry from what doesn't seem like all that long ago.
 
Did you get an email about the site being down for maintenance? I can log into the website.
 
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DeniseM said:
Did you get an email about the site being down for maintenance? I can log into the website.
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It was off for awhile, but back on with no changes. Sometimes this week we'll see only Vistana...

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SeaDoc said:
It was off for awhile, but back on with no changes. Sometimes this week we'll see only Vistana...

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I think we will get a notice that the website will be off-line - like we did for May. 1.
 
DeniseM said:
I think we will get a notice that the website will be off-line - like we did for May. 1.
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On starwoodvacationnetwork.com now:

System Downtime Notification

Our website will undergo scheduled maintenance on Thursday, May 12, 2016 between the expected hours of 12:00 a.m. to 9 a.m. Eastern time.
During this time, online reservations will not be available; however, you can contact Owner Services at 1-800-847-8262 during normal business hours to make a reservation.

We anticipate delays in sending email confirmations throughout the day as well as a potential interruption in receiving email communications during this period.
Please contact Owner Services at 1-800-847-8262 with any questions. We apologize for any inconvenience.
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Thanks, Sue! :hi:
 
If Vistana was originally Shell, and the name was chosen by Shell, I wish they would choose a different name. Shell insists Vistana was them, and it's on their website and in their presentation for sales. I just kept thinking it was odd because they have nothing anywhere near Orlando now.

More Shell lies????
 
Falcon Point

An interesting aside.

We traded in to Falcon Point last February and on check in day they had someone in the lobby to get you to go to a Starwood presentation.

So....some nominal connections still?
 
Website now shows it will be off line on the 12th of may until 9am est so likely vistana will emerge then. RIP starwood...

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rickandcindy23 said:
If Vistana was originally Shell, and the name was chosen by Shell, I wish they would choose a different name. Shell insists Vistana was them, and it's on their website and in their presentation for sales. I just kept thinking it was odd because they have nothing anywhere near Orlando now.

More Shell lies????
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Based on all my documents, it is a lie, at least for the SVR property. Vistana was not Shell or Shell's.
 
sptung said:
Based on all my documents, it is a lie, at least for the SVR property. Vistana was not Shell or Shell's.
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I think Shell was a company that was created as an off-shoot from Vistana. A separate company, but still from the minds of those behind Vistana. A company that was used to sell points based product while Vistana was weeks based. This is just speculation though since I can't find any official information on this.
 
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