II trades that seem improbable - Studio to 2BR/3BR

[The Colorado Kid]

Looking for TUGgers II expert feedback please if this could possibly be accurate...

Considering buying a resale Edgewater Beach Resort in Dennis Port, Mass annual studio 1-52 largely due to the seller's statements on II trading power. Seller says their week is randomly assigned to them and they immediately deposit to II.

Seller states they have traded the studio for 3BR in Kilkenny Ireland, 3BR outside of Disney Paris, 2BR Marriott Hilton Head Island, 2-3BR Scottsdale and Sedona. Doesn't specify beyond the Marriott what brand or when they traveled to these locations so could be lower end II properties and off seasons for sure.

Would appreciate any feedback on if a studio at a TUG rated 7.43 property and II unrated property would likely trade for these larger units.

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[dioxide45]

Anything is possible and a lot depends on how far out they make their trades. There are some garbage studios in Cocoa Beach that trade for the best Marriott or Vistana 2BR and 3BR units because the people are diligent checking II for last minute deposits/cancellations inside the 59 day Flexchange window. Those cancellations are usually not in preference.

 

[bnoble]

Remember that you will be paying 2-3 steps worth of "upgrade fees" for any of those, which are $99/step for a basic II member.

My bias is always to buy something I can imagine using myself and that seems desirable used as is. If that's true, then trade power will be fine, I will have an exit strategy, etc.

 

[The Colorado Kid]

Remember that you will be paying 2-3 steps worth of "upgrade fees" for any of those, which are $99/step for a basic II member.

My bias is always to buy something I can imagine using myself and that seems desirable used as is. If that's true, then trade power will be fine, I will have an exit strategy, etc.

@bnoble Great callout on the size upgrade fee thanks. I'm following up with the resort to see if the random 1-52 week assignment is true since that is a real negative for me...receiving a week 6 on Cape Cod not great for anything that I can imagine.

 

[b2bailey]

I'm with dioxide 45 saying anything is possible -- not the same as probable.
Do I doubt the trades mentioned, no. But under what parameters?

 

[The Colorado Kid]

I'm with dioxide 45 saying anything is possible -- not the same as probable.
Do I doubt the trades mentioned, no. But under what parameters?

@b2bailey thanks and the seller is not very forthcoming with details like that, sigh

 

[HudsHut]

The seller could print his II history page.

The UK resorts are an easy trade. It may have traded for a Marriott long ago, but these days the preference period is in place much longer. (And, long ago, there was no upsize fee.)

II unrated, size= Studio are both negatives in the trade power calculation. Add to that an off-season week, and you would have a real hard time getting a desirable exchange. You would have to be the first to see a cancellation and confirm it online.

 

[The Colorado Kid]

The seller could print his II history page.

The UK resorts are an easy trade. It may have traded for a Marriott long ago, but these days the preference period is in place much longer. (And, long ago, there was no upsize fee.)

II unrated, size= Studio are both negatives in the trade power calculation. Add to that an off-season week, and you would have a real hard time getting a desirable exchange. You would have to be the first to see a cancellation and confirm it online.

@HudsHut great idea on the II history page!

 

[The Colorado Kid]

Update - After I contacted the resort I found that this Edgewater ownership is weeks 1-12 and 48/49/50
Seller further explained she takes advantage of II bonus weeks so her II results not specifically tied to this studio.
This is a pass for me but good edumacation.

Appreciate the rapid expertise responses! Love TUG!

 

[ScoopKona]

FWIW -- Paris Disney isn't a hard trade. The reason it isn't a hard trade is that it isn't Paris. Paris is hard. May as well buy a getaway levels of hard.

I've traded for a bunch in Ireland. Also not hard. And Sedona is part of my system, so also not hard. I haven't visited Scottsdale or Hilton Head.

 

[noreenkate]

Update - After I contacted the resort I found that this Edgewater ownership is weeks 1-12 and 48/49/50
Seller further explained she takes advantage of II bonus weeks so her II results not specifically tied to this studio.
This is a pass for me but good edumacation.

Appreciate the rapid expertise responses! Love TUG!

wow, talk about due diligence.

 

[b2bailey]

wow, talk about due diligence.

Good decision.
Was this a giveaway week?

 

[The Colorado Kid]

Good decision.
Was this a giveaway week?

@b2bailey yes it was a giveaway from FB

 

[hapstersmom]

I inherited one studio unit with kitchen and three without kitchen at Martha's Vineyard. The place is a glorified motel. Nicely kept, put really, like Motel 6 with nicer paint and location. The rooms and weeks are fixed. I have traded these for one to two bedrooms for places such as Marriott Waiohai (where we later bought resale), The Cliffs at Princeville, a 3 bedroom penthouse at Ko'olina, a premium one bedroom at Westin Desert Willow, one and two bedrooms at Maui Marriott Ocean Club, and a premium one bedroom at Westin Ocean Resort, among others. I am definitely a high end resort type on a bargain beer budget, and I have gotten fantastic trades even using those units rather than the nicer ones we own in HI and Scottsdale. To me, part of getting a good trade on a lesser property is the location of the property (I mean, there are only two timeshares on MV and neither is a "resort" but the other is nicer than mine); another is the willingness and ability to log in constantly and search for good sites when actively looking to trade; and the last is the ability to be flexible on dates of travel. I used to teach at college level and our son was in school with a different schedule of vacations than my school had, and despite that, we still were able to get good trades by being flexible with booking late on cancellations. Once I quit teaching, it became easier as more weeks were doable. Now that the kid is out of HS, we can just go whenever. I've never done a request trade with II, but using a small one bedroom EOY worth of points from Wyndham Beachwalk, we got a 2 bedroom at Disney Key West along with a studio at Disney Boardwalk for July all the same check in date so we could travel with other family members one summer, and still had some points left over. That one I attribute strictly to the trading power of the Waikiki location rather than perseverance, because it was a request situation for DVC Orlando only.

 

[scoutings]

@b2bailey yes it was a giveaway from FB

@The Colorado Kid What's the site?