II HOW TOs

[stacyl]

maybe some of you savvy II people can help me. i have joined II (am still waiting for the paperwork, etc in the mail) but am unsure of how things really work.

what i want to do is trade a vegas week i own for a week in hawaii (on the front end or tail end of another vacation i have already planned). i want to go sometime immediately before aug 4 or after aug 11.

there is nothing available right now, but it gave me the option of deposit first or request first - what i dont understand are the dates it listed for those? they arent the dates i want to travel...and im not sure what the best option is for me. i only want to do a trade if i can get the specific dates i want.

also, if i were to do a request first and i dont like what it gives me, can i choose to not make the trade?

i have never used interval before so im not sure how everything works. can someone please explain any of this?

 

[gmarine]

maybe some of you savvy II people can help me. i have joined II (am still waiting for the paperwork, etc in the mail) but am unsure of how things really work.

what i want to do is trade a vegas week i own for a week in hawaii (on the front end or tail end of another vacation i have already planned). i want to go sometime immediately before aug 4 or after aug 11.

there is nothing available right now, but it gave me the option of deposit first or request first - what i dont understand are the dates it listed for those? they arent the dates i want to travel...and im not sure what the best option is for me. i only want to do a trade if i can get the specific dates i want.

also, if i were to do a request first and i dont like what it gives me, can i choose to not make the trade?

i have never used interval before so im not sure how everything works. can someone please explain any of this?

If you do a request first then you can travel from one year prior up to the date of the week you give up. You will select dates and resorts for the request. If any of these are matched you will be confirmed automatically. You cannot cancel this exchange unless you notify II within 24 hours of the time you are confirmed.

If you do not get confirmed then you retain the use of your week and the exchange fee gets refunded.

Keep in mind that a high demand area like Hawaii is difficult to exchange into and even more difficult when the dates that you can travel are limited.

 

[m61376]

I am newer than you at this, since I haven't even joined II yet (still waiting for my paperwork from Marriott-land). However, from what I've been told, if you want to use your unit if you don't get the trade you requested, then do a request first. That guarantees that you keep your original unit if you don't get what you want. I don't know if this is true or not, but the MVCI rep. told me that your request will be more likely to be fulfilled, because II has an incentive to fill it (so they get your unit for another exchange); others can advice whether this works in the real world.

The advantage to a request first is that you still have your original week to use if you don't get the exchange. The disadvantage is that the closer in you deposit it, should you decide to deposit it later on, the less trading power it will have. Also- deposits give you from the date of deposit to 2 years after the reservation date to begin your exchange travel.

I would love to hear other's thoughts on which is better.

I do have a question though:
Gmarine: does the week you request for the exchange have to be before the week you have booked, or does the exchange just have to take place before the week you have reserved, so that you have something to deposit in exchange? For ex.- if I have a week booked at "X" for June, 2007, can I book a week between now and June to travel to "Y" in Oct., 2007 (or later), as long as the exchange is made before June OR- as you stated,"If you do a request first then you can travel from one year prior up to the date of the week you give up" (which would indicate that I would have to begin my travel by June, 2007)?

 

[stacyl]

thanks for all the help!

 

[talkamotta]

I was new at trading for Hawaii this year. I had one week I owned and I was open to any other island for the week after. I didnt care which island as I had never been to any of them. There were 4 of us and I had traded a 2 bedroom Hawaii (Maui) and was only offered a 1 bedroom (Big Island). I could have held out longer, but waiting makes me nervous. So the resort you are trading makes a big difference, if its a Gold Crown maybe SFX would be a good choice, although thier inventory is limited.

The best advice is to be as flexible as you can. There are so many nice resorts on all the islands and after all you wont be spending that much time at the resort anyway. I didnt... On Maui (in my 2 bedroom resort) we ate in most days and on the Big Island (in the 1 bedroom) we ate out more often.

 

[gmarine]

If using request first, the week that you request must be before the week you deposit.

As far as trading power goes, it doesnt matter whether you use request first or deposit first.

Your trade power is determined by the following.

1. How far in advance of your week you request when using request first or how far in advance you deposit when using deposit first.
2. The quality of the resort you are exchanging.
3. Size of the unit you are exchanging.
4. Week that you are exchanging,
5. Demand for the unit/resort you are exchanging.

 

[Dean]

Marriott to Marriott is for up to 2 years including dates after your check in date. DVC is for up to 2 years from the date of request. I don't know if there are other special situations out there, maybe someone else does.

Also, if you have a request first and later decide to deposit, you can have a couple of problems. One is your deposit date becomes the date of deposit and not the original request first. The other is that even if you want to keep the ongoing search, if you deposit while searching as a request first, your request is cancelled and must be started anew.

 

[m61376]

For Marriotts then- when making a deposit, do you have 2 years from the date of deposit (as I think Dean said) or from the time of the deposit to 2 years after the date of the reservation for the deposit (as I thought others had said)?

 

[Dean]

Marriott to Marriott is for up to 2 years including dates after your check in date. DVC is for up to 2 years from the date of request. I don't know if there are other special situations out there, maybe someone else does.

Also, if you have a request first and later decide to deposit, you can have a couple of problems. One is your deposit date becomes the date of deposit and not the original request first. The other is that even if you want to keep the ongoing search, if you deposit while searching as a request first, your request is cancelled and must be started anew.

In theory you could request anything up to 2 years after the date of your week you're using. However II will normally only let you search for up to 2 years out from when you are requesting. And given that the furthest out one could see a Marriott deposited would be 18 months, that is the limit of when you could actually match at a given point.

 

[Spence]

I am newer than you at this, since I haven't even joined II yet (still waiting for my paperwork from Marriott-land). However, from what I've been told, if you want to use your unit if you don't get the trade you requested, then do a request first. That guarantees that you keep your original unit if you don't get what you want. I don't know if this is true or not, but the MVCI rep. told me that your request will be more likely to be fulfilled, because II has an incentive to fill it (so they get your unit for another exchange); others can advice whether this works in the real world.

The advantage to a request first is that you still have your original week to use if you don't get the exchange. The disadvantage is that the closer in you deposit it, should you decide to deposit it later on, the less trading power it will have. Also- deposits give you from the date of deposit to 2 years after the reservation date to begin your exchange travel.

I would love to hear other's thoughts on which is better.

I do have a question though:
Gmarine: does the week you request for the exchange have to be before the week you have booked, or does the exchange just have to take place before the week you have reserved, so that you have something to deposit in exchange? For ex.- if I have a week booked at "X" for June, 2007, can I book a week between now and June to travel to "Y" in Oct., 2007 (or later), as long as the exchange is made before June OR- as you stated,"If you do a request first then you can travel from one year prior up to the date of the week you give up" (which would indicate that I would have to begin my travel by June, 2007)?

If using request first, the week that you request must be before the week you deposit.

As far as trading power goes, it doesnt matter whether you use request first or deposit first.

Your trade power is determined by the following.

1. How far in advance of your week you request when using request first or how far in advance you deposit when using deposit first.
2. The quality of the resort you are exchanging.
3. Size of the unit you are exchanging.
4. Week that you are exchanging,
5. Demand for the unit/resort you are exchanging.

My understanding was that other things being equal... a deposited week will trump a request first. Is that not the case?

 

[Dean]

My understanding was that other things being equal... a deposited week will trump a request first. Is that not the case?

The info I have and what was stated by Craig when he was here was there was no difference in trade power between the two assuming all else is equal. The difference becomes if you decide to deposit later, the search first converts to the actual date of deposit and thus has potentially lower trade power than the deposit first.

 

[philemer]

Here's a good thread with some explanations on II: http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33421&highlight=II+search

Phil

 

[tikicarver1]

One more thing to consider with II.
When you deposit a week, your II membership has to be paid up to that date. If you are depositing a week far in advance, most likely you will have to renew your membership when you deposit. Since you can exchange up to 2 years after the date you deposit, I'm assuming they will also want you to have your membership paid up to the date you are exchanging into.

I found this out today when I tried to deposit my 07 week. I kept getting an error on the website so I called them and the guy said, "oh I see the problem, you reserved a week in Oct 07 but your II membership expires in July 07. Whould you like to renew now?"