Is there a site or thread that shows what the latest maintenance fees are at the various HRC properties? I realize Pinon Pointe is the lowest MF per point, but was wondering what are the other resorts that have relatively low MF/point after Pinon.
We own both Hyatt and Westin. I definitely would not buy a 2200 point Hyatt unit with the hope of trading into Maui. Maui is currently very difficult to trade into using Hyatt's internal system. I suspect it will probably never be easy to get using Hyatt points. If you can travel on short notice, you may get it, but you most definitely cannot count on it. Conversely, it is easy to trade into Maui or Kauai using Westin SOs, as long as you don't have to go during the winter season. Even then, if you can book 8 months out, your chances are much better of getting a Westin unit than a Hyatt unit. A platinum plus at Westin Kierland will likely run a couple of thousand more, but will greatly increase your chances going to Hawaii when you want to and quite possibly at all...
Sunset Raven Im intrigued by your post. We have not mastered Interval at all, and rarely find inventory we want. How do find out when there are bulk deposits? Is that something as a Hyatt owner we are privy to or strictly for Starwood owners? I have heard that the Orlando Starwood Bella phase are lower initial costs than Kierland. Do you know what MFs are for Sheraton Bella?
Just adding a note relative to MF and point values. You may want to consider Wild Oak. While not at the Pinon Pointe level of MF, WO's are at the lower end of the spectrum and the property has 3 Bd units - thus providing higher point count for just one MF.
Here are a couple of relevant M/Fs:Is there a site or thread that shows what the latest maintenance fees are at the various HRC properties? I realize Pinon Pointe is the lowest MF per point, but was wondering what are the other resorts that have relatively low MF/point after Pinon.
Thanks!! When you say short notice, how short is that usually? In a week? Or 1-2 months?
The Hyatt suites in kaanapali are just so much nicer than Westin![]()
If you want to be guranteed a week at the Hyatt Kaanapali, then you should buy a week there. Presently, that is the only way you can be guranteed a week there. I am a risk-taker, but the stakes are way too high for me to buy a Hyatt unit somewhere else with the hope of being able to use points to go there (as it stands now). The difference between Westin and Hyatt quality (neglible, IMO) would certainly not be enough for me to make this gamble...
Heh fair enough. But it's the little things that make the difference for us. We have stayed at both. We love the all glass sliding doors at both master bedroom and living room. The large terrace. Perhaps those little things aren't worth the price tag though lol
We do love to travel so we would more than likely be content to travel elsewhere too. It's just that really with any other place we want to go that Hyatt owns I've seen show up on interval with our Sheraton trader.
Thanks for the feedback! The whole points program rollout potential also worries me a bit.
The other factor that should be taken into consideration is the pending introduction of the PPP program. This will very likely (over time) reduce the number of units available for we legacy owners to trade into, which could make it even more difficult to use points to go to Maui. Over on the Marriott forum, some believe that a similar introduction by Marriott (several years ago) has led to a reduction in resale prices (along with other factors). In your case, I believe a wise choice would be to look for a Hyatt Kannapali resale..
I agree. It would probably be a transition as they convince more and more owners to adjust to HPP and thus reducing the inventory pool for legacy owners. So there may be higher resale prices in the short term if people fomo but overtime it would likely decrease.The other factor that should be taken into consideration is the pending introduction of the PPP program. This will very likely (over time) reduce the number of units available for we legacy owners to trade into, which could make it even more difficult to use points to go to Maui. Over on the Marriott forum, some believe that a similar introduction by Marriott (several years ago) has led to a reduction in resale prices (along with other factors). In your case, I believe a wise choice would be to look for a Hyatt Kannapali resale..
Lizap, you say there is a reduction in resale prices, I'm assuming now, as a result of what Marriott did. How long did that take? Also, what happened to prices right after the new program was introduced? Thanks!!
JC
All currently owned Maui units are in the legacy program. Any Maui units sold by Hyatt will go into the legacy program. As of late, more than 50% of the units have not yet been sold so that's a lot of upside and will make it easier for HRC members to trade in, not harder....But if the rumor is true that Maui remains a legacy resort I wonder how then HPP owners would be able to trade into Maui at all ??
All currently owned Maui units are in the legacy program. Any Maui units sold by Hyatt will go into the legacy program. As of late, more than 50% of the units have not yet been sold so that's a lot of upside and will make it easier for HRC members to trade in, not harder.
The only way to get Maui units into the PPP is thru resale ROFR and Maui owners opting into the PP Program. To me, that is a small impact on future trades.
I would do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to buy a unit/week today. There's nothing to lose. If Hyatt takes it on ROFR so be it. But if they don't, you're the winner.