How does Re-trade work with II?

[maryk]

I went to look at my unit I have reserved for next month and I saw this re-trade option.

How does this work?

What is the drawback?

Does it cost $$?

Mary

 

[Mr. Vker]

It costs money. $49 IIRC. It simply allows you to retrade your original unit 3 additional times. So, if you have a 1BR and suddenly a 2BR opens the same week, you can retrade and grab the 2BR. You can change resort, week anything-up to 3X. We have used it several times.

Edited to correct price to $49.00.

 

[VacationForever]

It costs money. $59 IIRC. It simply allows you to retrade your original unit 3 additional times. So, if you have a 1BR and suddenly a 2BR opens the same week, you can retrade and grab the 2BR. You can change resort, week anything-up to 3X. We have used it several times.

You are referring to ePlus. Re-trade cost the full amount, I think is $174 now.

ePlus is only available for 5 days after confirmation of exchange. When you pass the window, you can only retrade which costs $174 for every retrade.

 

[Saintsfanfl]

It costs money. $59 IIRC.

The E-Plus option is $49.

 

[Mr. Vker]

The E-Plus option is $49.

Fixed…my wife usually does these.

 

[Mr. Vker]

You are referring to ePlus. Re-trade cost the full amount, I think is $174 now.

ePlus is only available for 5 days after confirmation of exchange. When you pass the window, you can only retrade which costs $174 for every retrade.

ePlus can be bought during the exchange and up to 5 days after the exchange. If bought, the feature lasts until your stay-different rules apply within 60 days of your stay. The retrade has to be within 60 days.

 

[Saintsfanfl]

ePlus can be bought during the exchange and up to 5 days after the exchange. If bought, the feature lasts until your stay-different rules apply within 60 days of your stay. The retrade has to be within 60 days.

But, the OP was referring to a regular re-trade and not E-Plus.

E-Plus can also be purchased at the point of request all the way until 5 days after the very first match. If E-plus was not purchased at the point of request, and an initial match is cancelled within 24 hours, the E-Plus purchase option does not reset and therefore can no longer be added.

 

[Mr. Vker]

But, the OP was referring to a regular re-trade and not E-Plus.

E-Plus can also be purchased at the point of request all the way until 5 days after the very first match. If E-plus was not purchased at the point of request, and an initial match is cancelled within 24 hours, the E-Plus purchase option does not reset and therefore can no longer be added.

I realize that. It seemed sptung was saying that ePlus only worked for 5 days-if purchased. Not that it had to be purchased within 5 days…which isn't entirely the case…and continues to work until occupancy. Perhaps I misunderstood the post they wrote:

ePlus is only available for 5 days after confirmation of exchange. When you pass the window, you can only retrade which costs $174 for every retrade.

 

[VacationForever]

I realize that. It seemed sptung was saying that ePlus only worked for 5 days-if purchased. Not that it had to be purchased within 5 days…which isn't entirely the case…and continues to work until occupancy. Perhaps I misunderstood the post they wrote:

ePlus is only available for 5 days after confirmation of exchange. When you pass the window, you can only retrade which costs $174 for every retrade.

Yes, it is available for purchase up to 5 days after confirmation. If you pass the five days and you did not purchase the option, then you can only do a retrade, which is the question asked by OP. OP is not asking about ePlus.

 

[dioxide45]

Here is how the "Start Retrade" button on the My History" page works. When you click on it, you are taken to the regular search window where you can search just like when searching with a deposit or un-deposited week. YOu don't lose your initial confirmed exchange unless you confirm a new retrade. If you do a retrade, your initial exchange is lost. There is no 24 hours to change your mind like you can do on an initial exchange.

The difference however may be in the exchange fee you pay.

• If you are an enrolled DC owner and used one of your enrolled weeks, there is no additional exchange fee to do a retrade.
• If you are not an enrolled owner and did not buy EPlu when you did the initial exchange, you will pay a full exchange fee to do the retrade.
• If you are not an enrolled owner and did by EPlus, you will not pay an exchange fee to do the retrade. Though you would have paid $49 for EPlus when you did the initial exchange. I think the button is labeled "Start EPlus Retrade" instead of "Start Retrade" on My History if you bought EPlus.

 

[Seaport104]

E-Plus can also be purchased at the point of request all the way until 5 days after the very first match. If E-plus was not purchased at the point of request, and an initial match is cancelled within 24 hours, the E-Plus purchase option does not reset and therefore can no longer be added.

Just to make sure I understand-

If II matches an ongoing search and I cancel that reservation within the allowed 24 hour period to keep the searc going, I cannot no longer add E-plus at the next match that I accept (assuming 5 days has pass from my initial match)?

Did I understand correctly?

 

[Saintsfanfl]

Just to make sure I understand-

If II matches an ongoing search and I cancel that reservation within the allowed 24 hour period to keep the searc going, I cannot no longer add E-plus at the next match that I accept (assuming 5 days has pass from my initial match)?

Did I understand correctly?

That is correct. It is only based on the very first exchange. The 5-day clock starts only with that first exchange. Since a match is an exchange it begins with the first and does not reset if cancelled. The history does not reset and it is based on the history.

I know from experience. It happened to me twice. I think this is why II later added the ability to tack E-Plus onto the request. This way the match cannot be cancelled and only retraded instead.

On the flip side you can cancel an exchange all together, get a replacement week, and then add E-Plus to that deposits first exchange. A replacement week has a cleared history. But, the expiration date of the replacement week supersedes the expiration of E-Plus, so you cannot use it to buy more time.

This is all dependent on whether or not they tweaked any of the programming but I am pretty sure it is as I described, especially the 5-day clock not resetting. I have E-plus on almost all of my exchanges, including a replacement week where the date supersedes the E-Plus.

 

[Saintsfanfl]

And I also am not sure if you can add E-plus to an exchange after a cancel even if it has been less than 5 days. Not saying it can't but it wouldn't surprise me. It's an easy test, someone just needs to cancel an initial match and see if the E-Plus add-on remains through the entire 5 days and after a second match within the 5 days.

 

[VacationForever]

And I also am not sure if you can add E-plus to an exchange after a cancel even if it has been less than 5 days. Not saying it can't but it wouldn't surprise me. It's an easy test, someone just needs to cancel an initial match and see if the E-Plus add-on remains through the entire 5 days and after a second match within the 5 days.

If I am a betting person, I would say a 2nd booking after the initial cancel of within 24 hrs is treated as a new booking, which means there is still a 5-day window after the 2nd trade is confirmed.

 

[Seaport104]

That is correct. It is only based on the very first exchange. The 5-day clock starts only with that first exchange. Since a match is an exchange it begins with the first and does not reset if cancelled. The history does not reset and it is based on the history.

I know from experience. It happened to me twice. I think this is why II later added the ability to tack E-Plus onto the request. This way the match cannot be cancelled and only retraded instead.

Assuming E-Plus is purchased at the initial search request, and the 1st match is cancelled within 24 hours, is the 2nd match considered 1 of the 3 allowable retrades?

 

[dioxide45]

Assuming E-Plus is purchased at the initial search request, and the 1st match is cancelled within 24 hours, is the 2nd match considered 1 of the 3 allowable retrades?

If you cancel, you just go back to your pending request which has EPlus bought against it. I would suspect that the one trade doesn't count as one of the three. Though this is uncharted territory most likely.

 

[dioxide45]

If I am a betting person, I would say a 2nd booking after the initial cancel of within 24 hrs is treated as a new booking, which means there is still a 5-day window after the 2nd trade is confirmed.

But it isn't, because if you view the history of the exchanges on the My History page, it shows the very first trade of that deposit. EPlus goes back to the very beginning for determining that 5 day period.

If you book an exchange and cancel within the 24 hours and then later confirm another exchange. Both exchanges show up in the history for that single exchange.

 

[Saintsfanfl]

If I am a betting person, I would say a 2nd booking after the initial cancel of within 24 hrs is treated as a new booking, which means there is still a 5-day window after the 2nd trade is confirmed.

Assuming E-Plus is purchased at the initial search request, and the 1st match is cancelled within 24 hours, is the 2nd match considered 1 of the 3 allowable retrades?

I would take that bet and win. There is no second 5-day window. This much is known.

I am not so sure you can cancel a match if you added E-Plus with the request. The free retrades might replace the 24 hour cancellation rule. I know you cannot cancel an Eplus retrade but I am not certain on the initial exchange.