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how do you slow cook/bbq meat WITHOUT smoking it?

...Brisket, on the other hand, must be cooked low and slow. Even a small one, (5-7lbs), typically takes between 10 & 12 hrs with the Smokenator. Even when smoking a brisket, I wrap it tightly in foil when it hits the 165 degree mark until it's finished

Ah, yes, here is a definite reason I need to get a Smokenator rather than just use my lil' ol' Weber. My one experience trying to make brisket on the Weber was a dud, simply because I didn't do a proper long term low and slow. They came out dry and tough. :(
 
Glad to see my thread has generated so much enthusiasm! :D

Happy grilling everyone! And smoke 'em if ya got 'em!

Me, I prefer the no "smoking" section!
 
Laura, when is the party?

You have made me hungry just thinking about all this good food!

I now know much more about grills! The Memphis looks awesome, i didn't realize there was such a grill!
 
I now know much more about grills! The Memphis looks awesome, i didn't realize there was such a grill!

I have a Louisiana pellet grill (made in that great Cajun city of Edmonton Alberta), not a Memphis, but once you use a quality pellet stove it's hard to go back to gas. Jim
 
I have a Louisiana pellet grill (made in that great Cajun city of Edmonton Alberta), not a Memphis, but once you use a quality pellet stove it's hard to go back to gas. Jim

What is so funny is I didn't realize I needed a new grill until I started reading this thread, all this is because of Laura, I should send her the bill for my new grill! Send me your address, I think its only $2,400.00 or so!

I was very happy with what I had until she did this post!
I need one for the beach house!
 
Couldn't a person slow cook about anything in a reynolds oven bag ? Thats how we do turkey.
Great one! I just added reynolds oven bags to my timeshare packing list.

I now know much more about grills! The Memphis looks awesome, i didn't realize there was such a grill!
Another type to consider... I use a Bradley smoker. They basically use round wooden pucks that get automatically fed through on a conveyer. Each puck smolders on the burner for 20 minutes, then gets pushed off into the water by the next puck. It keeps a really clean, true smoke rather than the acridic flavor that some methods produce.
 
Ah, yes, here is a definite reason I need to get a Smokenator rather than just use my lil' ol' Weber. My one experience trying to make brisket on the Weber was a dud, simply because I didn't do a proper long term low and slow. They came out dry and tough. :(

Or you can go cheap and build a perfectly functional smokes for about $50 using a metal garbage can, a hot plate, a smoker box, four long threaded rods, some 4" long machine bolts, some wingnuts, and a replacement Weber grill top.
 
Or you can go cheap and build a perfectly functional smokes for about $50 using a metal garbage can, a hot plate, a smoker box, four long threaded rods, some 4" long machine bolts, some wingnuts, and a replacement Weber grill top.

Hey McGyver, I think you forgot to mention the piece of Wrigley's chewing gum wrapper as well.:D
 
Or you can go cheap and build a perfectly functional smokes for about $50 using a metal garbage can, a hot plate, a smoker box, four long threaded rods, some 4" long machine bolts, some wingnuts, and a replacement Weber grill top.

Copied from another Tug thread about Gas Grills

Alton Brown and The Homemade Hardwood Smoker - from YouTube.com

Alton Brown: Good Eats: Where There's Smoke, There's Fish - from YouTube.com

Compliments to Alton, Scoop and Steve.

Here's the link to the previous Tug thread on Gas Grills



Richard
 
Or you can go cheap and build a perfectly functional smokes for about $50 using a metal garbage can, a hot plate, a smoker box, four long threaded rods, some 4" long machine bolts, some wingnuts, and a replacement Weber grill top.

But since I already have a Weber 22.5" grill, wouldn't it make as much sense to buy the Smokenator? Especially with the extra hovergrill to maximize usage?

I really am in no hurry to but the Smokenator, but I have "lusted" after it awhile. :)

I can do a very nice pulled pork smoke on the Weber, but I must admit my brisket was as I mentioned a dud! :D

BTW, which 4 burner grill do you own?
 
Or you can go cheap and build a perfectly functional smokes for about $50 using a metal garbage can, a hot plate, a smoker box, four long threaded rods, some 4" long machine bolts, some wingnuts, and a replacement Weber grill top.

I was at Lowes gathering parts when the Brinksman smoker caught my eye. It was on sale so I grabed it. I can smoke 3 steelhead or 1 king. About 20 pounds of whatever as long as its cut into strips.
 
SkinsFan

If you wrap the brisket in foil at 165 degrees, is it on the grill rack unwrapped until the smoker or grill reaches 165?

Could someone with a successful brisket recipe please post it here. I am tired of feeding dry hard brisket to the dogs.
 
Could someone with a successful brisket recipe please post it here. I am tired of feeding dry hard brisket to the dogs.
Several tips:

1) Make sure you're not trimming off too much fat.
2) Mop it regularly to keep the outside moist.
3) Don't let the pit temperatue exceed 200. Low and slow. My briskets typically take about 12-16 to cook (but with smoking, you cook based on temperature, not time -- see #4).
4) Don't let the meat temperature exceed 185. Once it's there, pull it. I use a BBQ Guru controller for my Bradley smoker, which automatically regulates the pit temperature and lets me know when the meat hits my set temperature.
 
SkinsFan

If you wrap the brisket in foil at 165 degrees, is it on the grill rack unwrapped until the smoker or grill reaches 165?

Could someone with a successful brisket recipe please post it here. I am tired of feeding dry hard brisket to the dogs.

Yes.


I turn it around, (not over), every couple of hours, because the heat source is on one side. I don't mop my briskets, but I do spray them with a mixture of vinegar and apple juice every once in a while.

The cooking temp that works for me is 220-230.

At 165, I wrap it tightly in heavy duty foil and cook it until it reaches 190,(this is where MichaelC and I can agree to disagree:) ..but everyone has a method that works for them...190 is what works for me).

As far as temps go, some people will go even hotter, 220 - 230, but at that point, it can no longer be sliced. It will fall apart, and will have a consistency of pulled pork, which is great for beef BBQ sandwiches.


Anyway...I put the foil-wrapped brisket in a cooler, (with an old towel in it), and let it rest for a couple of hours. This allows the juices to flow back throughout the meat.

I have my recipes written down at home, (I'm at work), so I don't have access to them, but I marinate it for at least 2 days, (all kinds of great marinade recipes on the internet) I think the marinade I use has red wine vinegar, olive oil, soy sauce, brown sugar and minced garlic. Just google "brisket marinade" and find one you like.

Don't worry about "overmarinating" the brisket, as they are very tough cuts of meat and marinades don't penetrate too much.

I apply a dry rub, (my secret recipe;) ....but it's similiar to those Memphis-style rubs with the paprika, brown sugar, etc), right before I put it on. Dry rubs do not penetrate the meat, all they do is flavor the outside and, (if you don't foil it), promote a nice charred crust.

As far as rubs, marinades and all that go, some people don't use any of that stuff. A buddy of mine uses nothing but kosher salt and cracked pepper. His briskets are fantastic.

I'm also going on the assumption that you have some type of water pan in your cooking device that keeps moisture in the grill/smoker.


Several tips:

1) Make sure you're not trimming off too much fat.
2) Mop it regularly to keep the outside moist.
3) Don't let the pit temperatue exceed 200. Low and slow. My briskets typically take about 12-16 to cook (but with smoking, you cook based on temperature, not time -- see #4).
4) Don't let the meat temperature exceed 185. Once it's there, pull it. I use a BBQ Guru controller for my Bradley smoker, which automatically regulates the pit temperature and lets me know when the meat hits my set temperature.

Great advice!

The diversity and different methods and styles of cooking is one of the great things about BBQ!
 
But since I already have a Weber 22.5" grill, wouldn't it make as much sense to buy the Smokenator? Especially with the extra hovergrill to maximize usage?

I really am in no hurry to but the Smokenator, but I have "lusted" after it awhile. :)

I can do a very nice pulled pork smoke on the Weber, but I must admit my brisket was as I mentioned a dud! :D

Absolutely!

I can't imagine how to cook a brisket on a Weber kettle without it.

I "lusted" after a Smokenator for months, before I finally pulled the trigger.

You definitely want the hovergrill too. It's almost unbelievable how great it works, and how well, and long, it will hold temps.

I know I sound like a Smokenator shill, but I'm a very skeptical buyer, and I've got to tell you, this thing works great!
 
SkinsFan

If you wrap the brisket in foil at 165 degrees, is it on the grill rack unwrapped until the smoker or grill reaches 165?

Could someone with a successful brisket recipe please post it here. I am tired of feeding dry hard brisket to the dogs.

Try the recipe here.

Ron
 
The original topic header was:
"How do you slow cook/bbq meat WITHOUT smoking it?"

... which I read as: "How do you slow cook/bbq meat WITHOUT eating it?"

... and would answer: "Trick question. You can't."
 
[on second thought]
 
[got to get the hang of this]
 
OK, this is way too overwhelming. Could someone please just invite me for dinner?
 
OK, this is way too overwhelming. Could someone please just invite me for dinner?

Only if you bring the brisket!! :D
 
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