How do I rent someone's timeshare week???

[GrayFal]

And I forgot to thank Mr. Cole. His reply was very helpful.

Denise M was also nice to you - but then she teaches teens and has lots of patience.

This has to be some sort of a joke.

I was just thinking the same thing.....does someone REALLY not know how to conduct a business transaction on the internet???

Many people just don't 'get it' and should deal within their comfort zone - in this case - directly with the hotel.

 

[aliikai2]

It is a shame

That even with all the advice you were given for free on how the rental of a timeshare works, that you feel the need to display your Jarhead PTSD here in our sandbox.

Tug is a no charge site designed to help those interested in timeshares, it isn't a commercial rental company, many here only own 1 week or use per year, some none, so when volunteers attempt to help you, it isn't their fault to have a chip on your shoulder.

The things that you can't seen to grasp is that your potential 5k of rent is a small figure compaired to the investment that many of us have in our ownerships.

As owners we pay for our 2009 use in January( long before your possible rental,) and when we rent, like any landlord, we need to verify that we will get paid.

Coming here with no experience and getting uppity and making caustic comments when you didn't like the answers isn't going to effect any of us, however, it will you as karma does come around and bite those that
act the way you have here today, when you are a guest in our house.

The best advice I can give you is to rent from the resort, that way you will have the comfort and assurance that you are so upset that you can't find here.

fwiw,

Greg
Vietnam 66-69
( now that was hell))

So, in summary, Tuggers are proud of this:

1) A newbie, who is taking several Marines fresh from the Sandbox on a vacation, asks for advice on how to go about renting a time share. Since they are returning from hell, and I am promising them a week in paradise, I want some level of security in the transaction so that I don't disappoint.

2) The owner of TUG refers me to a post that speaks with contempt about renters, calling us "flaky", "a pain", and implies that we are stupid and unable to correctly handle payment procedures.

3) Another long-term Tugger posts a condescending message exhorting the newbie to "THINK" about why rentals are so cheap. (Gee, I dunno....I THINK it may be because there are way more units available than renters????)

I am sad for you all. I will probably figure it out on my own. But don't worry, I will make sure that I don't rent from a Tugger. Wouldn't want to insult one of your virtuous members with my $5000.

On a parting note:

1) If you set up a sticky with advice to renters, try to not be as contemptuous and condescending toward us as you are in the sticky for owners wishing to rent. We aren't timeshare owners...we don't know the procedure. That is why we came to you. Maybe you should be nice to us? Your members are the ones with units to rent - we are the ones with the MONEY.

2) Steve - if you don't like the Caveman association, you should change your screen name and avatar. You picked them, not I.

 

[thunderbolt]

RLDURN, that is a noble gesture on your part IF it is indeed the case, but I think you sound like someone who has sand in his diaper. Sheezze, lighten up!
Tuggers have helped out thousands before you and will continue to do so, without malice.

 

[RLDurn]

That even with all the advice you were given for free on how the rental of a timeshare works, that you feel the need to display your Jarhead PTSD here in our sandbox.

Why so hostile to our young men in the military? They are protecting your right to hurl insults.

The things that you can't seen to grasp is that your potential 5k of rent is a small figure compaired to the investment that many of us have in our ownerships.

Not my problem that you over-paid. I was merely offering to take a week that no one wanted. I assumed that since the owner posted it for rent, and I was willing to pay their asking price, that everybody would be happy. Guess not.

All I wanted was advice on how to avoid people who might list a property that doesn't exist. This very website warns about that.

If I was an anonymous poster to a website asking you to send me $5000, and I would deliver a 72" television in June, you'd think tell me where to go. But I am just supposed to trust a poster to TUG or RedWeek just because the people running the sites tell me they are honest???? Pleeeaaaasseee....

As owners we pay for our 2009 use in January( long before your possible rental,) and when we rent, like any landlord, we need to verify that we will get paid.

Putting the money in escrow would solve that problem. You get paid when you deliver the product. But TUG advises their owners to not do that. If the "uppity" renters don't like it - they can just pack sand.

fwiw,

Greg
Vietnam 66-69
( now that was hell))

Who has a chip??? I doubt you'd last for a day under the circumstances these young men face, much less the years they have given.


BTW, I am not a marine. My daughter's fiance is. He has spent the last four years of his life in hell. So have his buddies. Taking them on a nice vacation is our way of saying thanks - we appreciate your sacrifice for us.

I know this may be difficult for people who spend so much time on a website dedicated to their own conspicuous consumption and self-gratification, there are those of us blessed with financial resources who like to share with others.

Just got off the phone with Kingsmill-on-the-James. They have reserved a lovely river-front condo for us. No hostility at all! They were actually happy to take my credit number and will charge me for my stay AFTER I receive the product.

Good luck. I really do wish you all the best with your awful investments.

 

[ace2000]

Wow.

As a newbie, I expected that someone would give me a step by step process on how to make this happen. Instead I got lectures on how I am a potential scammer or that I am unreasonable to not "shoulder the risk" for the transaction.

Never mind.

I will take my money elsewhere.

RLDurn,

You need to re-read Brian's replies. He went out of his way to be helpful to you.

Your scenario reminds me of somebody offering a gift certificate at a steak restaurant to a homeless person, and then having the homeless person turn around and yell their head off at the person because they are a vegetarian!

Have a nice day... I'm sure any resort will be glad to take your money and will offer you the assurance that you're looking for.

 

[Sandy VDH]

I am interested in renting a timeshare this summer for vacation. We like [resort name removed] and want to take a crowd, so we thought we should rent one of the [resort name removed.] The last time we tried to rent one thru the resort, it was outrageous in price.

But I have seen very reasonable offers for weeks on sites like RedWeek and TUG marketplace.

Can someone tell me how it works? Is there danger of being scammed?

How can I be sure that when we get there, we actually have a place to stay? Does the resort confirm our reservation?

If we can't find the specific week we want, can a "Float" week work?

Questions, questions. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[Since we have a strict no advertising rule, including rentals, I removed the name of the resort from your post. - DeniseM Moderator]

Just a general comment about summer timeshare availability. Since it seems you are interested in this summer. If an owner has not already booked the week in question, it is likely that the week is NO longer available for booking. I would look on TUG and redweek or craigslist or myresortnetwork and see if someone has for rent the exact week that you want.

Steps
1. Find someone offering the week you want at a price you can live with
2. Contact them and confirm the unit is still available.
3. Actually call and talk to them to get a feel of the person renting out the unit.
4. Expect to pay 50% deposit up front. Then the renter will put the reservation in your name. You can then call the resort and confirm that the reservation is in your name. The pay the Final 50% of the rental.
5. Expect some Rental deposit of $200 to $500 that is returned/refunded when you check out and there is NO damage reported by the resort.

Perhaps to most tuggers this would be a common sense list of steps that really wouldn't have to be laid out. Not sure.

I, as a person renting, we are generally more afraid of getting scammed. My renters can check up onthe rental by confirming and contacting the resort. As the person renting I have to be concerned about legitimate payments (fraudent checks etc.) and liability about renting (having the unit damaged by renter and I have to pay for it). Theses are both much harder to confirm than a reservation that can be verified by a call the resort to make sure the reservation in in their name.

 

[Egret1986]

Another TUGGER makes an effort to assist this person

Just a general comment about summer timeshare availability. Since it seems you are interested in this summer. If an owner has not already booked the week in question, it is likely that the week is NO longer available for booking. I would look on TUG and redweek or craigslist or myresortnetwork and see if someone has for rent the exact week that you want.

Steps
1. Find someone offering the week you want at a price you can live with
2. Contact them and confirm the unit is still available.
3. Actually call and talk to them to get a feel of the person renting out the unit.
4. Expect to pay 50% deposit up front. Then the renter will put the reservation in your name. You can then call the resort and confirm that the reservation is in your name. The pay the Final 50% of the rental.
5. Expect some Rental deposit of $200 to $500 that is returned/refunded when you check out and there is NO damage reported by the resort.

Perhaps to most tuggers this would be a common sense list of steps that really wouldn't have to be laid out. Not sure.

I, as a person renting, we are generally more afraid of getting scammed. My renters can check up onthe rental by confirming and contacting the resort. As the person renting I have to be concerned about legitimate payments (fraudent checks etc.) and liability about renting (having the unit damaged by renter and I have to pay for it). Theses are both much harder to confirm than a reservation that can be verified by a call the resort to make sure the reservation in in their name.

Good for you!!!! I agree; this has to be some kind of a joke. How can someone come on TUG and be so hostile unless they had an agenda other than learning about how to rent on the internet outside of directly through the resort?

Everyone count their lucky stars that this person (if actually looking to rent from an owner) has gone elsewhere. Can you imagine dealing with this person? No thanks. I don't care how much money he has; these type of people aren't worth it. I'd rather not rent and have to make other arrangements for the week than have someone like this to deal with. Yikes!

 

[wegottago]

I am so flabbergasted at this OP and the comments that have been made. I hope she?'s not a renter with any Tugger cause look out!. I have found for me that Tugger's have been nothing but helpful.

 

[weh8625]

How to rent

I recently rented someone's last minute rental off the Tug board, but I certainly understand being a nervous renter and not wanting to show up at the resort and being turned away. Here are some things I did to be sure everything went OK.

1. Find a resort/week you're interested in.
2. Email the owner and request a phone number to talk to them.
Talking to someone on the phone puts me more at ease.
3. The owner made the reservation for me, and sent me a confirmation
from the resort.
4. I called the resort to verify the confirmation.
5. I made the payment by Paypal with a credit card.
6. The day before we left I called the resort once more to verify
7. We checked in as friends of the owner, and had a great vacation.

I hope this helps. I am interested in hearing from owners who rent their weeks if they would be unwilling to do allow any of the above?

 

[NWL]

I am interested in hearing from owners who rent their weeks if they would be unwilling to do allow any of the above?

Hi,

The only problem with your scenario that I would have is giving my phone number out at the very beginning. I would feel more comfortable with a few more emails between myself and the possible rentee before disclosing my phone number. Other than that, I see no problem with your process.

With the amount of money the OP was going to spend on his rental, I can't argue with his desire for more security.

Cheers!

 

[heckp]

I want to thank all Tuggers for your patience in helping the newbies. I also think newbies should not forget that we can actually use the SEARCH tab and type our queries while giving our experts in TUG a chance to give us their thoughts and advice.
All your help is very much appreciated.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

I am so flabbergasted at this OP and the comments that have been made. I hope she?'s not a renter with any Tugger cause look out!. I have found for me that Tugger's have been nothing but helpful.

I worked for a boss one time who every year challenged me to identify the 20% of my accounts that we should plan on "outplacing" and replacing. He focused on two types of clients; one was the client who did large volume but demanded volume discounts without offering any offsetting buying preferences (most often this was a client who insisted on competitive bids for every project and awarded every contract on lowest bid). The other type of client was the client who required inordinate amounts of "client management". While that econd type of client might pay more money, all of the added profitability was consumed in hand-holding and dealing with a continuous rain of trivial problems and issues for which attention was demanded. This is the client that when you get down to it isn't worth the hassle, even if the client is paying full freight. This was the client whom I inform that perhaps we are not a good fit and give him or her the names and phone numbers for three or four other people in the same business whom I suggest they contact.

The OP on this thread scored on several of the key indicators for that second type of client.

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FWIW - I had a track record of taking on "difficult" clients that had been shed by other client managers and successfully salavaging those accounts. So when I outplaced someone as not worth the hassle, my partners generally figured the account truly was irredeemable.

 

[AKFisher]

While I think the OP is antagonistic in his approach, I do agree that the Sticky "How to Rent Your Timeshare" is not user-friendly for renters. The final sentence does refer to a cautious renter as a pain.

I have found so much useful information on TUG that far outweighs that negative aspect. But a sticky for those looking to rent would be an excellent idea. I am still in rent mode myself (looking to rent) while I decide which timeshare to buy next.

 

[Garnet]

Resort doesn't send out confirmations to renters...

For the last 3 years I have rented out a fixed week unit (already rented this year:whoopie: ) and that resort told me that they don't send anything out to the renter, or "friend". I send the renter a copy of a fax that I have sent to the resort granting that person use of my week.

Ironically, I searched for months to find this particular week on the resales market and haven't used this week yet myself. (One of those 1 in 4 rule resorts, except for owners, so it makes sense for me to own there.)

Additionally, the return on this unit is better than most stocks right now! Yes, more risk-but, more fun, too!

I recently rented someone's last minute rental off the Tug board, but I certainly understand being a nervous renter and not wanting to show up at the resort and being turned away. Here are some things I did to be sure everything went OK.

1. Find a resort/week you're interested in.
2. Email the owner and request a phone number to talk to them.
Talking to someone on the phone puts me more at ease.
3. The owner made the reservation for me, and sent me a confirmation
from the resort.
4. I called the resort to verify the confirmation.
5. I made the payment by Paypal with a credit card.
6. The day before we left I called the resort once more to verify
7. We checked in as friends of the owner, and had a great vacation.

I hope this helps. I am interested in hearing from owners who rent their weeks if they would be unwilling to do allow any of the above?

 

[weh8625]

Confirmation

Yes, you're right.
The resort emailed the confirmation to the owner who then forwarded to me (the friend).
I was able to call the resort's reservation number and give them my confirmation number to confirm that I was booked at the resort for the correct dates, unit type, etc.

 

[stanmark]

Wow! A lot of emotion expressed. I just logged on as I am interested in renting a timeshare in the near future and also may have a week to rent in 2010. Thanks to all for listing some helpful considerations and steps in the rental process. I have a much better appreciation how to proceed.