Holiday Inn Club HICV HIVC

[jackio]

As a relatively new owner of HIVC points, I get into RCI through the HICV portal as you say. I cannot combine my old RCI points account into this. In fact, there is a new RCI number connected with this HICV accoung. I also wanted to go directly to the HIVC account without going through HICV. I found I couldn't do it.

But the transition works well, and as long as I still have an active independent RCI account I can see the same stuff available.

The points are double (50,000 RCi points equals to 100,000 HICV points). It is a currency thing, but the power is still the same.

I don't know if this answers your questions, but hope it helps. Let us know if you need additional answers.
sandy

Thanks. I only had an RCI weeks account, never a points account. But I have a week that doesn't get many TPUs and I would like to see if I can deposit it in to the new points account as a PFD. When Summer Bay was selling their RCI points conversion packages (we didn't buy), they bragged that all we had to do was convert in to points, then all our crappy weeks could go in as points to the new account. I am hoping to be able to do the same thing here.

 

[momeason]

Orange Lake just bought Colonial Crossings in Williamsburg.

 

[Sandy]

News

Thanks for posting. This is the news that the salesperson said to me in June.

How did you find out? Do you think that they will offer their current owners the deal to join HICV? If so, what will they charge? I am assuming you might be an owner or know one.

 

[Sandy]

Is this an Interval affiliation?

I just looked at the resort and it seems to be affiliated with II. Does HICV have any other II affiliations? I thought all were RCI.

 

[dwojo]

Thanks for posting. This is the news that the salesperson said to me in June.

How did you find out? Do you think that they will offer their current owners the deal to join HICV? If so, what will they charge? I am assuming you might be an owner or know one.

Go to corporate.orangelake.com for the news about colonial crossings

 

[jackio]

I called HIVC this morning (was on hold a long time). The counselor told me that I can, in fact, deposit my fixed weeks at other resorts in to RCI points directly, or convert them to HIVC points and deposit them in to that account. I don't think it would make much of a difference which way it is done, as the ration of 2 HIVC to 1 RCI point would be the same.

 

[Sandy]

this is interesting

Jackio,

This is news to me. It seems that they are NOW saying we can, once members of HIVC, deposit other RCI weeks into their program. Did I read this correct?

If so, I would have kept my week, but instead I let it go. I was told when I joined through the Desert Club in LV that only those weeks at that resort were eligible for conversion to the HIVC program.

Was there a cost? Am I correctly reading your post?

I called HIVC this morning (was on hold a long time). The counselor told me that I can, in fact, deposit my fixed weeks at other resorts in to RCI points directly, or convert them to HIVC points and deposit them in to that account. I don't think it would make much of a difference which way it is done, as the ration of 2 HIVC to 1 RCI point would be the same.

 

[mlefferts]

I called HIVC this morning (was on hold a long time). The counselor told me that I can, in fact, deposit my fixed weeks at other resorts in to RCI points directly, or convert them to HIVC points and deposit them in to that account. I don't think it would make much of a difference which way it is done, as the ration of 2 HIVC to 1 RCI point would be the same.

I've read this somewhere, kind of like Wyndhams program where you can deposit your non-wyndham week into their points program. Wish I could find the place I read it :/

 

[momeason]

Thanks for posting. This is the news that the salesperson said to me in June.

How did you find out? Do you think that they will offer their current owners the deal to join HICV? If so, what will they charge? I am assuming you might be an owner or know one.

Yes, I know an owner. I called the resort because I was researching for my friends who want to get rid of it. The receptionist said Orange Lake owned the resort as of Monday..now 1 week ago.
It was news to me and to my friends. The resort is in II. My guess is that it will be dual affiliated or move to RCI.

 

[jackio]

Jackio,

This is news to me. It seems that they are NOW saying we can, once members of HIVC, deposit other RCI weeks into their program. Did I read this correct?

If so, I would have kept my week, but instead I let it go. I was told when I joined through the Desert Club in LV that only those weeks at that resort were eligible for conversion to the HIVC program.

Was there a cost? Am I correctly reading your post?

There is a program in RCI points called Points for Deposit, where they take weeks resorts (it has to be a strictly weeks resorts, no points at all) and they convert them to points if you already have a points account.
I called today and asked if I could still do that being that I have to go through the HIVC portal to get to my RCI points account.
The vacation counselor told me that yes, this can be done.

 

[simpsontruckdriver]

As a side note, Wyndham has a program called PIC. How it works is, if the Wyndham owner has at least 50k bought from the resort (direct, aka Developer), and if they have a week somewhere else, they can PIC it. They will accept a points resort ONLY if there is a week reservation at least 10 months away. The week is deposited through Wyndham to RCI, and the Wyndham owner gets an equivalent number of points to use for 12 months.

I asked how closely the HIVC points plan is to Wyndham on here, but no one could give a firm answer. I guess it's because there aren't as many active HIVC owners as there are Wyndhams (I own Wyndham).

TS

 

[mlefferts]

Yes, I know an owner. I called the resort because I was researching for my friends who want to get rid of it. The receptionist said Orange Lake owned the resort as of Monday..now 1 week ago.
It was news to me and to my friends. The resort is in II. My guess is that it will be dual affiliated or move to RCI.

How long do you think we have to buy in before it's too late to get offered the $204 HIVC upgrade? Anyone with experience from purchasing Desert Club recently?

 

[Sandy]

we got in on the Desert Club

When they converted to HICV and offered the $204 deal to owners, there was a deadline of June 30 2012. I learned about this ALMOST too late, but saved by the bell!

I believe that the transition began in December of 2011,but I will check the thread here on TUG and post the link. But there were several months of transition, as I recall.

Edit: OK here is the link: http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161744&highlight=desert+club

It seems that the fever began around January 2012 and the deadline was June 30 2012. I got in right before the deadline, and I am very pleased with the decision. The cost was reasonable, I am dropping my RCI points and weeks accounts because I don't need them any more, and I can see last minute exchanges through the RCI HICV portal, and the hotel stays through the never expiring Priority Club is great.

 

[Sandy]

How long do you think we have to buy in before it's too late to get offered the $204 HIVC upgrade? Anyone with experience from purchasing Desert Club recently?

Meghan,

Given the timeline that the Desert Club owners had, about 6 months, it might be that amount of time. If this is true, it should be sufficient for you to get in with a cheap resale and then join HICV under the new program.

If you decide to do this, please keep us posted here. I am sure that there are many others who might be able to get into the program as well.

And if any owners of the Williamsburg resort know what HICV is going to charge for the conversion, or the deadline, can you post here as well? Perhaps this question should be posted also in the Eastern groups section.

 

[mlefferts]

Meghan,

Given the timeline that the Desert Club owners had, about 6 months, it might be that amount of time. If this is true, it should be sufficient for you to get in with a cheap resale and then join HICV under the new program.

If you decide to do this, please keep us posted here. I am sure that there are many others who might be able to get into the program as well.

And if any owners of the Williamsburg resort know what HICV is going to charge for the conversion, or the deadline, can you post here as well? Perhaps this question should be posted also in the Eastern groups section.

Thanks Sandy! I'm seriously thinking about it. If I find one that fits my needs and wants at a price I can swing, I will. I'll keep everybody updated if I do. At the moment I'm also looking into Massanutten. I'll be stopping in there in August on the way (out of the way, really) to Myrtle Beach, and we'll be stopping in Williamsburg on the way back. I'll let you know which way we decide to go, but it seems the "sales weasels" had some truth for you after all :rofl:

 

[mlefferts]

When they converted to HICV and offered the $204 deal to owners, there was a deadline of June 30 2012. I learned about this ALMOST too late, but saved by the bell!

I believe that the transition began in December of 2011,but I will check the thread here on TUG and post the link. But there were several months of transition, as I recall.

Edit: OK here is the link: http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161744&highlight=desert+club

It seems that the fever began around January 2012 and the deadline was June 30 2013. I got in right before the deadline, and I am very pleased with the decision. The cost was reasonable, I am dropping my RCI points and weeks accounts because I don't need them any more, and I can see last minute exchanges through the RCI HICV portal, and the hotel stays through the never expiring Priority Club is great.

I love Priority Club. It's got a new name now, but same program. I love the welcome package that some places give to members with prebooked rooms that flexibility to change HIVC points into priority club points and access to RCI and being able to get into OLCC without restriction is why I want in!

 

[Sandy]

Massanutten might turn out to be the best way to go. Given that there are so many sections and units at Massanutten, there are always resales everywhere. In fact, some folks are literally giving them away.

So if Massanutten joins with HIVC, this will present numerous opportunities for a cheap entry into HICV.

Meghan, try to find out as many specifics when you go to Massanutten. I think you will have to take the tour to get the details. Watch out for those sharks!

 

[tschwa2]

My concern with the Williamsburg property is that it was probably mismanaged (being that it was from the Club D'or or whatever it was called) and that MF's went into the pockets of the manager instead of the maintenance of the property. Unlike the Las Vegas property which was still shiny and new from the re-location, the Williamsburg property may take more money to get it up to standard and even if HICV puts in some of theirs, I am sure it will expect the owners to pay for the improvements too. A cheap buy in may be accompanied by a few years of steep special assessments before owners are invited to join.

The problem with probing at Massanutten is I am sure the salespeople don't know anything even if there is a deal in the works until it is announced. And even if they did, right now they are selling for Great Eastern and touting the affiliation with Vacation Villages. Just as the day before the Summer Bay deal was announced, the Las Vegas sales force was selling Crown points or whatever they are called for Summer Bay.

 

[Sandy]

Good points.

The sharks keep selling whatever is on their plate for the sales day. They might know of the upcoming deal, but will continue to snucker the unsuspecting if they can get a dollar out of them. Sad.

Massanutten is so huge, I can't imagine if HIVC will take a part of it or try to associate all of the resort. Seems less likely - they will probably offer to convert only that section or sections that they are interested in. Those would likely be the ones in current sales with the most improvements or the newest sections.

 

[tschwa2]

Thanks Sandy! I'm seriously thinking about it. If I find one that fits my needs and wants at a price I can swing, I will. I'll keep everybody updated if I do. At the moment I'm also looking into Massanutten. I'll be stopping in there in August on the way (out of the way, really) to Myrtle Beach, and we'll be stopping in Williamsburg on the way back. I'll let you know which way we decide to go, but it seems the "sales weasels" had some truth for you after all :rofl:

I think Massanutten is going to be way out of your way going to Myrtle. If you have some vacation time in the fall you can get a cheap extra vacation and stay a week or part of a week. If you wait for the right sale you should be able to get a 2 br or even 4 br for the week for less than $250. A couple of hours isn't enough time to get a sense of the place.

 

[mlefferts]

I think Massanutten is going to be way out of your way going to Myrtle. If you have some vacation time in the fall you can get a cheap extra vacation and stay a week or part of a week. If you wait for the right sale you should be able to get a 2 br or even 4 br for the week for less than $250. A couple of hours isn't enough time to get a sense of the place.

It definitely is out of the way. We are spending a day there. I would love to spend a week there, but I start a new semester in September and kids are both in school too. If I were not so interested in purchasing there we wouldn't bother, but hubby won't let me get the next TS sight unseen.

My requirements are that it trades well for the MF and has lots to do and reasonably driveable. He's picky about certain things and wants to see if the activities on site are worth the extra cost. When we go to OLCC we get the play pass, which is good for 14 days from the day it's purchased, and can be used non-consecutively, so a 7 day pass is perfect for us for 2 weeks. It also gives you all the minor activities free on the days you use it. The 7 day play pass is $50pp, and the 3 day is $35pp (if we are only spending a week), so for $200 ($140) all 4 of us are entertained while there. We usually also rent boats or kayaks if we are there for a while, so $100 more. Massanutten has discount passes for $99 adult or $69 child, which gives some activites free and discounts on others, and they are only good for 7 consecutive days. $340 to start with and not get into the water park seems a little steep to hubby, especially when we would want to do other activities too. I'd be happier if it extended out 14 days.

So we are going to investigate before renting there.

 

[simpsontruckdriver]

A new thread about the Williamsburg purchase

HIVC Williamsburg

TS

 

[Valencia01]

Keep in mind, when using your points in priority club, you lose 20% of your points, they have to be transferred the same year points are issued and the average price for a hotel room is around 25,000 points per night. Some go for up to 50,000 per night.

 

[GA Shooter]

Hello everybody. Just found this site a couple of weeks ago. I have been doing a lot of reading but this is my first post. I have a timeshare (that after reading here I am sure I paid to much for) at South Beach HIVC in Myrtle Beach. I love the resort and my family goes there every year. Here is my dilemma. In the HIVC I only have 80K per year and for the week we go I really need 150K per year. I am still making payments on the first one but want to add points or sale the first and re-buy from a re-seller for cheap. Would trying to get in one of the newly acquired resorts be my best option? If so do you have to pay the MF on both or do they get combined? I cannot find a South Beach for resale for cheap but I am still new. Anyway thanks for reading my post and trying to help me figure this out.

 

[GA Shooter]

No advice from anybody?