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Help me decide if this is legit and what I should ask.

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Just purchased a 11,200 points deal on eBay for Orlando Seaworld resort. Never purchased resale off eBay before. Is there anything I should watch for before committing money to this in case it’s a scam? I feel I got a pretty good deal on the points. I figured worst case scenario if I pay with credit card I can just dispute it if something goes bad..

Things I can tell you is, I have talked to seller on the phone. His name comes back to a legit person. The number is verified though my cell carrier so it’s likely not scammed. When I google the number I find the name of the person selling me the contract on LinkedIn and several sites. The contract owners, based on the sales contract, are legitimate people and the address for them appears correct (again through Google search). I even found a news video of the owner complaining about a local project in his town.

The seller does not seem to be a broker, as he does not have history of selling these on eBay in the past. He has an old account, but no real reviews in the last year. Only one, and even then he was the buyer.

The seller has not been pushy at all but has asked how I was paying and I told him likely a credit card. He later sent me a Venmo request. I told him I was not comfortable with that quite yet as this has not gone through ROFR yet . He was not pushy about getting the money right away when I talked to him on the phone.

What is reasonable to ask the seller for before I commit any money to this purchase? I have signed a contract that has the HGVC contract number and all the required info on it. I am just trying to lessen the chance of me having to call my credit card and having them dispute the charge from being scammed.
 

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Request the estoppel and who the closing company is.
 

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Tell the seller you want to use your own closer. Suggest using www.LTTransfers.com

A closer who represents you won't release your funds unless the deed is legit and transferred.









Is this something that is common? For the price I’m getting this I don’t mind paying a bit to have someone on my side. I just don’t want to jeopardize the sale.
 

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I totally agree with @TheTimeTraveler. Only do the deal with a transfer company. Being you don't know the seller it is the only way to 100% protect yourself.
 

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You can ask about the seller on this website.

People here know ALOT!

Also, its probably not a huge amount of money. There are times you just risk it....
 

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You can ask about the seller on this website.

People here know ALOT!

Also, it’s probably not a huge amount of money. There are times you just risk it....
This is the listing. Sellers name is Jeffrey Kitchen.

 

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I assume that if the Buyer I requesting a formal closing company for a Points account they will pay the fees for that service.
 

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I’m the buyer. I haven’t. But I may. Never bought resale before so I’m learning as I go along.
 

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And many of these eBay sellers have a closing company they use, which very well could be their cousin working in the room next door to the seller.
 

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Looks like only thing sold in a year. They may not know what they are doing either. I'd use the Time Traveler’s advice to use www.LTTransfers.com (or other TUG reviewed service). Working with an experienced team is so worth it.

Also, it can take a couple of months so recourse on the credit card can be impossible. Then again, its $1,500 and will make for a great story regardless of the outcome, but you should have no issues.

Beware you will start to collect these timeshares and enjoy more and better vacations. Then you will want to optimize your collection and you might become a reseller also. That might be too much self-reflection and disclosure in public. First step is I admitting I have timeshare addition…

Not sure TUG really helps me in my recovery! 😊
 

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Looks like only thing sold in a year. They may not know what they are doing either. I'd use the Time Traveler’s advice to use www.LTTransfers.com (or other TUG reviewed service). Working with an experienced team is so worth it.

Also, it can take a couple of months so recourse on the credit card can be impossible. Then again, its $1,500 and will make for a great story regardless of the outcome, but you should have no issues.

Beware you will start to collect these timeshares and enjoy more and better vacations. Then you will want to optimize your collection and you might become a reseller also. That might be too much self-reflection and disclosure in public. First step is I admitting I have timeshare addition…

Not sure TUG really helps me in my recovery! 😊
Ha thanks! Ditching $1500 on a scam would give me a story to tell, but not sure one I would want to tell people😂
 

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The seller has not been pushy at all but has asked how I was paying and I told him likely a credit card. He later sent me a Venmo request. I told him I was not comfortable with that quite yet as this has not gone through ROFR yet . He was not pushy about getting the money right away when I talked to him on the phone.

You can pay VenMo (or PayPal) with a credit card. There is a fee, but it does add the CC protection.

Cheers.
 

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Ok update. I went ahead and risked it and sent him the money via PayPal. That same day, an email was written to grandvacationstitle@hgv.com asking to a title name change with a HGV title change form and our signed contract. This was on July 10 2024. Everything looked legit. Not sure what to expect next. Does this sound correct to this point?
 

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Request the estoppel and who the closing company is.
Did you see the estoppel? Looks like you are also skipping using a closing company such as LT Transfer.
 

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Did you see the estoppel? Looks like you are also skipping using a closing company such as LT Transfer.
I did not. I did call HGV and confirmed the contract exists and was up to date and owned by the sellers on the contract. (the lady I got might have told me some stuff she shouldn’t have, but she was very helpful).

I also called my credit card fraud department and told them the situation and they told me if I determined it was fraud I could dispute it. Right now I really don’t think it is, just probably not sold the most safe way.

I called the HGV title company today and they told me once they review the request I should hear back from them, but it might take a week or two. So ASSUMING I didnt get frauded, I think it’s going to go ok. The only thing I didn’t understand is that on the title change form to HGV they marked Gift transfer, but they did identify me as the purchaser.
 

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The only thing I didn’t understand is that on the title change form to HGV they marked Gift transfer, but they did identify me as the purchaser.
Gift transfer is actual suppose to be free and then wouldn't require ROFR.
 

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Gift transfer is actual suppose to be free and then wouldn't require ROFR.
Interesting. Well they sent my contract with the seller in with the title name change form. And put me down as purchaser as the relationship with the seller. Guess we will see how it goes.
 
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