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Help me and wife get into Timeshares

Koontzy

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About 7 years ago when I was in the Marines, my wife and I went to a meeting about Timeshares, and while they sounded great, with me being military, we couldnt commit to doing one.

Now We are both 27 yrs old and ready to get a timeshare for my family. We are looking into Myrtle Beach, St Petersburg beach, Pensacola, and a few other places..Key West and San Diego...

However we dont know how to get into them, what everything means. Would you guys be willing to explain? How can we get a timeshare in one of these areas?

Also do you know of any good ones? Especially in Pensacola?
Mine and my wife first choice is Pensacola.

I also plan on researching this and maybe renting once to try out a complex before buying.

Could you guys point me in the right direction for Pensacola??? Thanks!
 
There are no timeshares in Pensacola that I know of - so that isn't an option. You may be best advised to try things out by renting - a great way to see resorts & find out if you really want/need to own there.

Remember that buying is easy (and inexpensive right now at resale) while selling can be nearly impossible unless you price it very very low.

Buy to use not to rent or trade. Buying to use, if you want many locations, may be an ownership in a LARGE (there is no value to small systems) multi-resort system such as Wyndham (VERY inexpensive to buy into as in you may be able to find decent packages of points for free!) that are designed to give you an internal way to visit in many locations with no trade or extra fees involved. Exchanging has become problematic as the cost of membership and exchange fees are nearly equal to what the annual fees used to be just a few years ago. Adding that on top of the higher fees most resorts now charge mean you are paying far too much to own to trade vs renting with no upfront or annual expenses involved. Plus you have far more control if you rent as far as resort, dates, views, etc are yours to rent - with exchange you get what they have and even then tend to be treated as a second class (or worse) user at the resort. When you rent you get everything an owner gets including owners views, etc.

So start out with some rentals, read here & have fun. It's vacation!
 
Join TUG

Step one is join TUG.
Check out the resort database and use that to narrow your search.
Ask questions here on TUG and get answers from experienced owners of
the resorts you narrowed your list down to.
Keep reading threads and learning. A rental at a resort you may buy is a great idea.
Buy resale!! It keeps your investment and risk low.
Check the listings here on TUG and on EBAY and make sure you know what your bidding on before you bid.
These are just the basics many more will chime in.:D
Keep asking questions and you'll get the help you need.
 
Welcome to TUG! We're thrilled that you found TUG and many here will be happy to give you some guidance.

First study the newbies forum for a while- 6 months is not too long.

Watch the 'bargain deals' in Buying, Selling, Renting there are some great deals there. EBay has provides many of us some good buys also. Warning! eBay is addictive!

Consider joining TUG. It's $15 and among other things grants you access to the reviews of thousands of TSs so you don't have to continually ask if this one is better than that one. You will be welcome as a guest, but the information you can gather as a member makes it worth the small price.

Timeshares are easy to buy, just about without value these days and very hard to rid ones self of. Be prepared for maintenance fee (MF) bills to come just about Christmas every year and to increase every year.

I have no personal inside information on Pensacola- or any other Florida TSs, but fret not, others will have suggestions.

Welcome to TUG and happy vacationing!

Jim Ricks
 
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Be very careful. Note that in this group of total timeshare fanatics, every poster has warned you to take your time.

Unfortunately, the timeshare world is full of people who take advantage of the unwary. Knowledge is power, so empower yourself by slow and careful research. Your research should be on this board, on other websites, and on site research by taking vacations at resorts of potential research.

When (and if) you decide to buy, only buy resale.
 
When (and if) you decide to buy, only buy resale.
And of course the corollary to that is...

After you buy from a developer and research and discover that you bought a pack of lies, RESCEND. You have the legal right to cancel your timeshare purchase and get all of your money back for a period of time (about a week, depending on the state) after your purchase.
 
How exactly does buying a timeshare work? What are the steps? Is it like a house where they verify credit checks,income, down payments?

I don't see a lot in Pensacola, and I have a family of 5. Any other places you guys would recommend? Hawaii is still a top choice for us, but also would be the furthest away and most expensive. My wife also likes the mountains in Tennesse, but were gonna keep looking and see wht all we find.

Thanks for the replies.
 
Credit Report? for buying a $1 timeshare? Not done!

When you went to your TS presentation years ago, that was the developer trying to get you to buy something for THOUSAND and THOUSANDS of dollars. When those owners went to sell, they found few, if any, willing buyers. Hence, the bargain prices and OUR warnings to research before buying anything.

Maintenance Fees rise almost every year. And yearly bills are mainly due at year end.

And buy to use ... I would recommend several RENTED timeshare vacations before buying anything. Resorts have personalities, much like any neighborhood - some will just annoy with their policies or unit layouts or color schemes. Yes, some resorts seem to have a paint scheme which causes nightmares (I brought a resort were everything was PINK - walls & trims, countertops, baths, kitchen cabinets).
 
Conventional wisdom here (at least for your first purchase) is to buy into a resort or system that is within driving distance from your home and that you will use. You also want good trading ability for those times when you want to venture away from home. Watch your maintenance fees (they are forever)

I like the idea of a system or network of resorts, like Wyndham, Disney, Hilton etc. I dont have experience any of them except Wyndham. They have lots of nice properties in good locations. They are strongest east of the Mississippi, but they are in California, and Las Vegas too. The cost of entry is low, if you buy resale (ebay for example) and the maintenance fees are reasonable if you buy the right contract at the right resort. (Maintenance fees vary from resort to resort, and even among contracts within the same resortso watch this.

I bought into Wyndham because they have numerous resorts within a 12 hour drive from my home; the Beach, the Mountains to Orlando even an urban experience with New Orleans. They are one of the few timeshares near Washington DC, where my wife and I both have family and San Fran Cisco where my daughter and Grandkids live.

Wyndham points are cheap on ebay and if you dont make the same mistake I did on my first purchase you can get a contract with maintenance fees at around $5 per 1000 points (a 2 bedroom in Destin in the high season will be under 200000 points or about $1000 a year)

I subscribe to the theory that points are points and it dosent matter which resort you points are based at. You can almost always make a reservation where ever you want whenever you want as long as you can do some advance planning. The exceptions are weeks like bike week in Daytona, or Mardi Gras in New Orleans, or Christmas in Orlando etc. If you absolutely have to have a week like that buy your points at the resort in question so you will have Advanced reservation Priority.(13 months) (havingg said that i did get Mardi Gras Reservations at 10 months with my north carolina points)

Now re Pensacola: Wyndham has resorts in Destin (60 miles away) and Panama City (120 miles away)

Most of us wyndham owners have had good experiences at the resorts and with the Wyndham people we encounter on the phone making reservations. Even the folks at the transfer dept and financial services have been a pleasure to deal with.....But be aware the sales people at the resorts are dogs. They have the ability to ruin a vacation if you let them. They will invite you to owner updates which are nothing but high pressure sales meetings, They will say that there are problems with your account and insult you for having not purchased retail...you have to know how to say no or just not go to these meetings.

The Wyndham Owners directory with a discussion of all the ins and outs of the system is here: Wyndham Directory Read through it and the discussions at the top of the Wyndham section here on TUG,and everything else here on tug, do the same for other systems and individual resorts. . You might also follow ebay to get a feel for pricing...Then decide

Good Luck
 
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Holiday Beach Resort-Soundside is the only timeshare on Pensacoloa Beach. It faces the Bay. They are all two-bedroom units. The units are very roomy and nice. It had been remodeled from the ground up after one of the hurricanes hit it few years ago.
 
Thanks for the replies... Ron you live in NewBern? Not far from havelock. I was at Cherry Point for a short stint...

Destin sounds nice, and the mountains in tennessee also. Guess I got a lot of work todo.. I'm just having troubles find them and how much they are. Since I don't understand the lingo I guess
 
I'm just having troubles find them and how much they are.

For your research only (don't buy yet), you can find them on eBay, Redweek.com, MyResortNetwork.com, and the TUG Marketplace. You can find rentals on the same websites.

Many sell for $1. In some cases, they can be worth thousands to specific buyers who know exactly what they want/need. In other cases, their value is negative because one can rent the unit for less than the annual fees without any ongoing commitment.
 
Thanks for the help........Me and my wife have found a few we are thinking about thanks to some help from Jeff:)

I will continue to search and when we find and narrow some down, I will be sure to ask more questions and ask you all about them:)

thanks
 
How exactly does buying a timeshare work? What are the steps? Is it like a house where they verify credit checks,income, down payments?

I don't see a lot in Pensacola, and I have a family of 5. Any other places you guys would recommend? Hawaii is still a top choice for us, but also would be the furthest away and most expensive. My wife also likes the mountains in Tennesse, but were gonna keep looking and see wht all we find.

Thanks for the replies.

I would consider putting Wyndham (buy resale) points on your list. They have 2 resorts in Gatlinburg (one with an indoor and outdoor water park), resorts in Destin and Panama City (close to Pensacola), and a wonderful resort at Waikiki called Waikiki Beachwalk.

Our Wyndham points are deeded at Sevierville, TN, and our dues/maintenance fees are very low. We love Wyndham's wide variety of resorts that we can book internally in their system. We will soon have a total of almost 500,000 Wyndham points and we paid less than $2,000 for them on Ebay.
 
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I would consider putting Wyndham (buy resale) points on your list. They have 2 resorts in Gatlinburg (one with an indoor and outdoor water park), resorts in Destin and Panama City (close to Pensacola), and a wonderful resort at Waikiki called Waikiki Beachwalk.

Our Wyndham points are deeded at Sevierville, TN, and our dues/maintenance fees are very low. We love Wyndham's wide variety of resorts that we can book internally in their system. We will soon have a total of almost 500,000 Wyndham points and we paid less than $2,000 for them on Ebay.

Wow, sounds like wyndamn wouldbe a good option. Which resort had the indoor and outdoor water park? Would love to see it and if possible find it for sale for cheap. Especially since they have Destin,Panama Ciy and Hawaii covcered, that would work out great for us.
 
Qalso how hard is it to get a timeshare for disney? My family loves disney world, but is it worth the price?
 
Thanks for the replies... Ron you live in NewBern? Not far from havelock. I was at Cherry Point for a short stint...


No...I just have a timeshare there, Bought it for the Wyndham points. Never saw the place
 
Qalso how hard is it to get a timeshare for disney? My family loves disney world, but is it worth the price?

I hate to bring it back to Wyndham, (I sound like a shill) but they have Bonnet Creek which is located within the Disney gates. The points needed for a reservation there, like all the newer Wyndham properties, are more than at the older resorts, but the annual maintenance cost is less than at a Disney timeshare.And has already been discussed the buy into Wyndham is cheap. Many folks think the cost for a Disney resort is worth it though.
 
Qalso how hard is it to get a timeshare for disney? My family loves disney world, but is it worth the price?

Wyndham has Bonnet Creek at Disneyworld which sits right next door to Disney's Caribbean Beach resort. Wyndham's Bonnet Creek has free shuttles to the parks, a Disney cast member in the lobby that sells tickets/gives information, a Disney resort TV station, 2 lazy river pools with free tubes, pools with slides, and free miniature golf.

We own DVC (Disney Vacation Club) points, too, because we like staying on Disney property. But we also like using our Wyndham points for Wyndham Bonnet Creek because of its fantastic location within the Disney arches. I never trade the DVC points - only use them for Disney property because you can't buy them cheap like you can Wyndham points! I consider DVC my specialty Cadillac purchase for only Disney stays. And Wyndham is my great value purchase which offers me multiple locations in an internal system without having to exchange through RCI.

The Wyndham resort in Gatlinburg with the water park feature is Wyndham Vacation Resorts at Great Smoky Lodge. There's also a hotel attached at Wilderness at the Smokies. Here's some info on both with pictures:

http://greatsmokieslodge.com/
http://www.wildernessatthesmokies.com/

I personally wouldn't own at a water park Wyndham myself because dues will be higher because of upkeep with a water park. So we own at the Wyndham resort in Sevierville at Governors Crossing - Wyndham Smoky Mountains. But, at the 10 month booking window I can book any Wyndham resort in the system if there's availability.

Here's some picture links for Wyndham's Bonnet Creek resort at Disneyworld:

http://www.wyndhambonnetcreek.com/photo-gallery
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2701195
 
I, too would think Wyndham might make a good TS system for the OP to consider. I don't own there and have an observation that may make it an easier TS purchase to live with. All you Wyndham owners, feel free to straighten me out if I'm mistaken.

I think I understand that Wyndham's MF is (or can be) automatically withdrawn from one's bank (or charge card) monthly. This would eliminate the large 'surprise' bill about Christmastime that most of us get and have to cough up the money for along with other year-end and holiday bills.

Wyndham resorts are darn nice and located all over so one wouldn't get bored with going back to one's home resort time and again.

Again, I don't own Wyndham and my observations are from the outside looking in and may be a bit off.

Jim RIcks
 
I own DVC and I would not recommend purchasing DVC points. The money to purchase, even resale, is too high. There are too few resorts. There are too few locations.

With children, I would recommend that you purchase Wyndham also. It is really flexible because of being on a point system. So, while your children are still living at home, you will be able to book 3 bedroom, and sometimes even 4 bedrooms (for a shorter time). Once the children are no longer interested in going on vacation with you, you can book longer stays in a smaller unit.

As others have said, there are lots of locations. And when doing research about 3 years ago, it appeared to me that the Sevierville TN resort had about the lowest maintenance fees per point.

You can put in a saved search on ebay for a couple of the resorts that you are interested in (and just watch to get a feel for the bids). Do look here at the marketplace for resorts.

Take your time! I took about 6 months here reading reviews and reading all of the stickies. I read about all the different timeshare systems. And then bought resale and did not make the best choice. I made a good choice, I could have made better.

And it sounds like you have joined TUG. On one of the stickies, I believe that there are the instructions for changing your status to being a member.

elaine
 
May I suggest you read TUG Advice section in the upper right hand corner in red letters before you purchase a timeshare from anyone.
 
I own DVC and I would not recommend purchasing DVC points. The money to purchase, even resale, is too high. There are too few resorts. There are too few locations.
Just to give an example, using some rough numbers...

Purchasing DVC from the developer is roughly $100 per point. Purchasing resale is about $50 per point. Maintenance fees are about $5 per point. A studio is roughly 100 points per week. A 1BR is roughly 200 points per week. A 2BR is roughly 300 points per week. A 3BR is roughly 500 points per week.

So to get enough points to stay a week in a 2BR every year, you're going to spend about $30k upfront ($15k if you buy resale) plus about $1500 per year (and that amount goes up every year). When you consider the opportunity cost of the $15-$30k that you tie up, that 2BR unit costs you about $300/night. If you finance the purchase (which most of us NEVER recommend), it's even more. If that type of upfront cost doesn't bother you and you're okay staying in studios, DVC can be a really good value.

Compare that to more typical timeshares, where your annual cost for a week in a 2BR is usually in the $500-$1000 range and the upfront costs (if you buy resale) are negligible. Some are even less.

So what would be better for you?

I don't own at Wyndham, but I've rented quite a bit from Wyndham owners and I really like the quality of the units, the flexibility, and the number of locations. But I would consider RENTING rather than buying, at least to start.
 
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