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Hawaii vs. other tropical islands

presley

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A question for the Hawaii fanatics ~ are there any other tropical islands that compare to Hawaii? Specially, anything US owned or close to US.

I'm asking because I am a Hawaii fan and on the west coast, so more likely to go there than to other similar islands. I read reports of visits to places like Bermuda, Barbados, St. Thomas - they all sound lovely. Are they comparable or better than Hawaii?

Up to this point, the only place I liked as much (or maybe even more) than Hawaii is Disney's Castaway Cay. That is only a cruise stop, though, there is no overnight stays there.
 
One big consideration is that Hawaii is in the US, which makes many things a lot easier: language, customs, money, food, law enforcement, emergency medical care, etc.

If you are the adventurous type, those things may not be important to you, but they do make vacations simpler and in many ways, safer. YMMV
 
I guess, you could try Samoa or Guam, both of which are US protectorates. Or even the Philippines, which at one time was governed by the US. But none of these choices as you know, would be close to the US mainland.
 
I guess I should ask, if all things were equal, pretend that all tropical islands used US dollars, etc., are there any that are as enjoyable as Hawaii?

Things I love about Hawaii:
Warm water - MAJOR reason for me to go there
Fruit stands on the side of the road
Beautiful scenery
Even temps
If it rains, who cares... doesn't change anything
Ability to go to rain forest, volcano, beach and desert all in the same day! :p

People make the Bahamas sound good, but when I visited Nassau, I knew I'd never need to go back. As nice as Atlantis is, it can't hold a candle to Hawaii for my personal liking.

Poverty in Hawaii doesn't bother me, but it seems to bother me a lot in other places.
 
You have to factor in cultural differences, too. Hawaii has a familiar culture and "Spirit of Aloha," etc, that we all know pretty well. The islands in the Caribbean have a MUCH different history, both culturally and economically. They are governed differently today, and tourists have a very different kind of experience visiting there. Contrast the differences between Don Ho and Bob Marley.

So to answer your first question: For me, no. There is nothing else to compare to Hawaii. :D

Dave
 
We were in Honolulu in early January 2013, went snorkeling, and thought the water was cold. The water in the Caribbean seems much warmer for snorkeling.
 
I agree with Dave and the OP. Besides Hawaii, all the other islands I've been to,
I don't have a desire to go back. Hawaii has that Aloha that keeps me going
Back. I also love Hawaii for all the reasons on Presley's list. I'll have to watch
This thread to see if anyone thinks there's something like it because I'll just
Keep going back to Hawaii.:D
 
We tried to like the Caribbean islands as much as Hawaii as it is a much shorter (and cheaper) area for us to get to & stay at. But there was no comparison. Hawaii is unique. When they coined the word paradise I believe they had Hawaii in mind.
 
We've been to a dozen or so Islands in the Caribbean, and while they all seem to have unique qualities, none are the all-in package deal that Hawaii is. With that said, after a visit to Hawaii this year, we do think it's time for a visit back to a Caribbean Island..... St Thomas or Aruba... as we have yet to visit them.

Aloha!
 
I don't know, Honolulu always reminded me of Indianapolis with an ocean.:D

Kauai and the Big Island were fine but I enjoy different cultures so the Caribbean and Mexico is more to my personal liking for travel and different experiences in a tropical climate.

Cheers
 
I much prefer St John over St Thomas for natural beauty!

Also boating and diving in the BVI's.

From our location it's 20-24 hours to Hawaii, and the additional expense and hassle of dealing with the time change hasn't been worth it for our family. We can get to the USVI easily.

When our children are all off to college we will probably return to Hawaii for a couples trip.
 
Vacation or adventure

We have lived on Oahu and have made about 25 trips back to Hawaii since 1967. We still like Oahu best even though I understand the Indianapolis comment. We go each year for about a month and spend three weeks on Oahu and one on another Island. I call this a vaction as we go back to places we have been before and repeat many past experiences.
An adventure to me is going to a new country with all the different experiences. we have seen most of the Caribbean Islands,some Pacific islands like Okinawa and Guam and several Thailand Islands.Also Sicily which is my favorite Island next to Hawaii but this is Mediteranean climate and hardly tropical although temperatures climb higher in the summer when we would not go..
What to we like about Hawaii.
Number 1. Is the Hawaiian people 2. The many choices of what to see and do 3. the comfortable climate. Wehave found the Thai Islands humid and too hot in the coolest months and the Caribbean sweltering in April with high humidity.
In spite of these differences we also enjoy seeing another culture but have no desire to go back to other tropical places we have been.
Our next tropical adventure may be Tahiti and these islands.
 
We love St. John and the BVI for the color of the water as well as the miles of white sand beaches. We chose Hawaii for retirement as it is a US state, the people, the slower pace and the natural beauty. It has been 7 years since moving here and we still love it.
 
tropical no, but Hilton Head Island is a really special ocean/forest environment. Being about to experience an oceanfront setting coupled with a forest nature preserve makes for a really amazing location.


It is our favorite.... right behind Maui that is.
 
As you know, everyone has their own opinions about this sort of thing, and preference is purely subjective. But for my money, the only place that's comparable is Tahiti and Bora Bora.

Of the three possible alternatives you mentioned, I've been to two of them: St. Thomas and Bermuda. St. Thomas is a U.S. territory, part of the U.S. Virgin Islands--so the official language is English, you won't need a passport, and the U.S. Dollar is the currency of choice. That said, it's a big step down from Hawaii. Its natural beauty, while significant, does not compare to the Hawaiian Islands. And its beauty is unfortunately spoiled by poorly planned development, urban decay, and a decided lack of anything resembling the Aloha Spirit (i.e. the people are, with notable exceptions, not friendly or hospitable, at least in my experience).

Bermuda is a British territory. The Queen's English is spoken, it's much more formal than any other island I've been to in terms of dress code and customs, and it's actually a very nice vacation destination. It, too, lacks the kind of spectacular physical beauty of the Hawaiian Islands. It's basically a flat piece of coral and sand about 22 miles long with some beautiful hotels and resorts and marked by the capital of Hamilton, which is a very nice city of restaurants and shops and government buildings. We enjoyed our visit to Bermuda very much. One caution though: it is NOT a tropical island. Bermuda lies basically east of Virginia, so it's much further north than most people realize and you'll need to do some research on average temperatures and rainfall for the time of year you might wish to go.

All in all, I admit to being bitten about fifteen years ago by the Hawaii bug. We're so blessed to have Paradise a relatively short and easy flight from the West Coast.
 
Hawaii's beauty is fierce, IMO. You have a lot of jagged, jet black lava rocks transposed against a glorious blue sea. There is more lava-strewn coastline than sandy beaches. The islands are bigger, the mountains are taller, and the weather is overall more temperate year round.

Hurricanes are prolific in the Caribbean, but IMO Hawaii is more inherently dangerous: the tides are stronger, the wind is fiercer, the ocean is rougher and colder (hence sharks), the drop off into the ocean is more sudden, and people often die from flash floods and getting sucked into blowholes, or getting tossed into the ocean by rogue waves or riptides. When they say never turn your back on the ocean, I take it very seriously in Hawaii.

But Hawaii is glorious. At night, it's soooo romantic. The entire island slows down. The ambience at night is incredible, with tiki torches, and meandering paths through beautiful landscaping, and soothing Hawaiian music always in the background. I love sitting on my lanai at night and just listening to the ocean, which seems to calm down at night.

The Caribbean is an entirely different animal. The 2 most beautiful beaches I've ever been to (Trunk Bay and The Baths) are in the Virgin Islands. The green blue of the Caribbean is an entirely different blue from Hawaii.

The beaches in the Caribbean are more numerous, more expansive (both in width and depth) and more forgiving on the feet. And the slope from the beach into the sea is much more gradual. The waves lap at your toes instead of knocking you over like they do in Hawaii. And the water is warm, like bathwater. Snorkeling from the shore is incredibly easy in the Caribbean.

The Caribbean islands are much, much smaller than Hawaiian islands, but much more numerous and clumped together. From most islands, you can easily island hop to another island via a ferry. In some places, you could easily kayak from one island to another.

In the summer, the mosquitoes and humidity can be bothersome. And, of course, you have an entire hurricane season that can wreck your plans. But in the winter, the weather is a perfect respite from the winters on the continent.

One of the biggest contrasts between the island is the people. The Caribbean islands are inhabited by former slaves, and there are still lingering effects of that racial divide. While xenophobia certainly exists in Hawaii, it is targeted more at people who want to stay; tourists are generally welcomed. In the Caribbean, there is a very palpable tension between the haves and the have nots. It's subtle, but it definitely exists.

For instance, in Hawaii, service people are slow because they're on "island time," in the Caribbean most service people seem defiantly slow. They seem annoyed that you're interrupting their day.

Another example: One day we were riding in an open air taxi with our friends. The black driver waved to every other black person he saw, whether they were workers or locals. He stopped to offer a ride to a local woman walking on the street, and didn't charge her for the ride. He never waved to a white person, even fellow taxi drivers. If you aren't paying attention, you'd miss it. But I did, and I felt a bit uneasy.

A final example: We were at the local grocery store, with its sky high prices. The cashier rang up a local in front of us. His dozen items totaled $10 or so, which was a fraction of what it should have been. Blatant but obviously tolerated.

The Caribbean is still worth visiting, though, so don't let that stop you from checking it out. It's just an entirely different flavor than Hawaii. Both are drop dead beautiful!
 
I don't think that the Carribean or other tropicial islands compare to Hawaii for one main reason. That reason is that Hawaii is a state in the greatest and wealthiest country in the world. It's just that simple. I don't say that being an egocentric American, I say that because it's the honest truth.

I have been to many islands in the Carribean and in Europe and Asia. The biggest difference that is very obvious is the standard of living in Hawaii is higher than in all of the others because it is a state in the greatest and wealthiest country in the world. I hate going to the Carribean mainly because of the pressure to purchase in the touristy areas. Have you been to the Dunn River Falls of Jamaica, or just outside of Paradise Islands in the Bahamas? You have the locals there and other islands applying heavy pressure beyond belief on you to buy their souvenirs. The poverty is just in your face and it disturbs me.

Also, on many of the Carribean islands, there is nothing more to do than to hit the water all day. My tan is fine so I don't need to sit in the sun all day. I like variety in my daily activities. Hawaii offers a multitude of activities that can be taken advantage of that are both in and out of the water. That's why I love Oahu so much. You have the best of a city and the best of an island all in one. The Hawiian islands are also larger than many of the other tropical islands so there is more to see and do on them.

I will admit the water in the Carribean is warmer, but on hot days I don't want warm water. I want to be refreshed by cooler water. However, since I live near the southern California coast's beach cities, I feel any water is warmer than the frigid temps we experience here. :) The temperature in Hawaii is perfect year round with no humidity. I don't sweat every two minutes and feel the need to take a shower on an hourly basis.

I also don't like being bugged by insects. One of the things that hit me on my first trip to Hawaii was that when my kids and I were sitting on the balcony of our hotel eating dinner that there were no flies flying around interrupting us and trying to attack our meal. That is nice to be able to truly enjoy the environment.

We as Americans are just so lucky in so many ways. Hawaii being a part of our union is a real feather in our cap.
 
I like Hawaii. It is Paradise to us. I read that St. John Island is also very beautiful and a bit like HI.

After reading some of the last posts here, I am more hesitant to go to the Caribbean. I really wanted to but would have to go alone.

The color of the ocean and the warm water is what lures me the most but I hate mosquitoes and flies plus the hurricane season besides some of the other remarks too. It is hard to see so much poverty and people trying to beg from the tourists just to survive.
 
The OP asked for recommendations on where he might like to go that is like Hawaii.

Instead of recommendations, some of what he's getting is xenophobic rants. :eek:

Not what he asked for. I'm not going to lecture, just say that the content of some of the posts makes me uncomfortable.

EOM.
 
Presley,

We really love the Virgin Islands. The beaches and water are spectacularly beautiful, and the proximity of the islands to one another make the excursions a real treat.

We try to do a Caribbean trip every other year because its a wonderful addition to our Hawaii routine -- and everyone knows we love Hawaii.

Considering your experience of visiting Castaway Cay, I do believe you would have the same feeling if you visited St. Thomas or St. John. You would lay on a beach that is like powdered sugar and look at/swim in beautiful aqua-colored water. The Virgin Islands are also very lush and green, and there is natural beauty in the National Park system as well.

One cautionary comment however -- there is a level of poverty on St. Thomas that is not visible in Hawaii. This is something we preferred about Aruba versus St. Thomas -- Aruba didn't have the same level of poverty as in STT -- but it wasn't as lush an island, much more barren.

We've had positive interactions with the St. Thomas locals, and have found that as long as we are pleasant, they are very pleasant.

I hope this helps!

All the best,

Greg
 
Sorry you fell uncomfortable by some of the posts...

I really don't see that the posts here showed any real hatred.... it seems they provided preferences and the OP did ask how the Caribbean compared to Hawaii.







The OP asked for recommendations on where he might like to go that is like Hawaii.

Instead of recommendations, some of what he's getting is xenophobic rants. :eek:

Not what he asked for. I'm not going to lecture, just say that the content of some of the posts makes me uncomfortable.

EOM.
 
We went to the island that is half Dutch and half French.

Never been back.

Hawaii for us in spite of 9.5 hrs of flying required.

Aloha, Sterling
 
Not what he asked for. I'm not going to lecture, just say that the content of some of the posts makes me uncomfortable.

Then I'd suggest you not go to other travel sites. If you read some of their posts, you'd think that St. Thomas was in the middle of a war zone. Or that you're lucky not to be beheaded by drug lords if you go to Cancun.
 
We haven't found anything that compares to Hawaii. But we're still looking! In the meantime, we'll make regular trips back to Hawaii as well. :)
 
We've been to 7 Caribbean islands, and as others have said, they all have their own natural beauty, but the natural beauty of Hawaii is mo bigga bruddah. If we lived on the east coast, we might go to the Caribbean more often because Hawaii is such a long trip. The solution is just to stay there longer to make it worth it.
 
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