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Harborside Atlantis owners - how hard to reserve prime week 2 BDRM

MOXJO7282

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I'd love to add this resort to our portfolio but still need to follow school holidays. If I secure a 2BDRM plat 1-17, 51,52 how hard realistically is it to secure weeks 51, 52 or weeks 1-17 in that order.

I already deal with that issue with Marriott but get by because of my multi-week ownership. In this case it would only be one week that I own and if getting a prime week as a result is extremely hard I'd rather just pass on the deal.
 

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Starwood board would be a better place for this.

I would be under the impression 51 and 52 would still be difficult because of multi week owners.
 

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Its part of Starwood? That is how little I know about the resort. Thank you.
 

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Week 7 and 51, 52 were sold as event week with floating option. However, it's not impossible to get.
I own one platinum week (floating 1-17, 50-52) and one gold plus (summer) week. Both are phase II weeks which means it's pure floating week/unit.
Never had hard time to get March spring break or easter break week with platinum. Always could get July 4th week with gold plus. Once I could get x-mas week but passed it because of expensive flights.
I call starwood at exactly 12 months out, 9am EST.

Phase I is a completely different story because it's fixed week with floating option. Changing your week in your season would be very difficult.

Starwood owners don't have benefit by owning multiple weeks. There's no such 13 months window like Marriott.
All owners (single week and multiple week owners) are equal to make reservations.
 

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Week 7 and 51, 52 were sold as event week with floating option. However, it's not impossible to get.
I own one platinum week (floating 1-17, 50-52) and one gold plus (summer) week. Both are phase II weeks which means it's pure floating week/unit.
Never had hard time to get March spring break or easter break week with platinum. Always could get July 4th week with gold plus. Once I could get x-mas week but passed it because of expensive flights.
I call starwood at exactly 12 months out, 9am EST.

Phase I is a completely different story because it's fixed week with floating option. Changing your week in your season would be very difficult.

Starwood owners don't have benefit by owning multiple weeks. There's no such 13 months window like Marriott.
All owners (single week and multiple week owners) are equal to make reservations.

I don't understand. How is it that platinum is 1-17 but week 7 is sold as event week? With Marriott its sold as either a plat plus designation where those owners have exclusive right to that week except through trade or just a platinum season that doesn't exclude week 7.

So how does this event week have priority over a platinum week?
 

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Joe - phase one was sold as fixed/float. You have until the 10 month mark to hold your deeded week. At 10 months, you can theoretically float to another week in your season, but you absolutely cannot count on this as most people hold their weeks ... Maybe try to a get a different week ... But everyone is holding and it just doesn't work. I've owned for about ten years, and have read about one successful 10- month float reservation here on TUG.

Phase two was sold as pure float, but I've never seen anything in writing that says 100% of the weeks were sold as float. There have been a couple posts over the years where owners have successfully booked weeks 7, 51 and 52, but not enough IMO to make it a sure thing. At The Westin St John, where I also own, Starwood guaranteed (???) that at least 50% of phase two would be sold as float weeks. But, could that mean 100% of week 52s sold as fixed and 0% of week 39s sold as float? We don't really know.

Moral of the story - if you want week 7, 51 or 52 every year, buy a phase one fixed week. If you want to float (e.g. a spring break that falls around Easter), buy a phase two float and be prepared to call at 9am twelve months in advance.

At the 8-month mark, other Starwood owners can trade in and, although difficult at certain times of the year (mid-June to mid-August, prime spring break, holidays), it's possible ... But not an every year sure thing unless you're willing to go during hurricane season or Jan/Feb when the water is cold.
 

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MOXJO, ... "I don't understand. How is it that platinum is 1-17 but week 7 is sold as event week?"

You should think of Event Weeks as fixed rights to have a reservation in a float period. For Harborside, during Christmas, New Years and Presidents Week (week 7) in Platinum season, up to 50% of the timeshare units were sold as Event Weeks. Event Week units were sold by Starwood at a higher price than regular weeks in the appropriate seasn.

The Starwood web site describes Event Weeks as:

"Event Week

As an Event Week vacation purchaser, your purchase entitles you to the week each Use Year that includes a specific Holiday or special event at your Home Resort (for example, Christmas week Event Owners are entitled to the week each Use Year with a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday arrival prior to December 25th). Please note, the event may not fall on the same week number each Use Year. Your Event Week is automatically reserved for you each Use Year with your assigned check-in day indicated in your purchase documents in the villa type purchased (for example, Christmas Event Week with a Saturday check-in for a two-bedroom lock-off villa). Some purchasers have also purchased a specific villa number. If you purchased a specific villa number, it will also be automatically reserved with your Event Week."

Because of the automatic reservation of Event Weeks, part of the inventory of weeks is gone at the start of the home resort reservation preference period (12-8 months before arrival in your season). Availabilty for everyone else who can reserve in that season is reduced. Salty
 
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Joe,

First Starwood allows you to fix unit and week for any floating ownership at the time of purchase from developer (if I am not mistaken it cost 10% to fix week and another 10% to fix unit).
That is how they allow selling fixed units/fixed weeks during floating season.
In some cases (Westin Kaanapali) weeks 51 and 52 are sold only as a premium fixed week but in other resorts they sell premium weeks in the floating season.
When such week is fixed it is removed from reservation pool for the floating owners.
So if you want easy access to week 51, 52 or 7 get unit in Phase I where all weeks are fixed during 12-10 month window.

I don't understand. How is it that platinum is 1-17 but week 7 is sold as event week? With Marriott its sold as either a plat plus designation where those owners have exclusive right to that week except through trade or just a platinum season that doesn't exclude week 7.

So how does this event week have priority over a platinum week?
 
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