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@VacationForever @jwalk03 @dioxide45 Do you remember if the 2BR exchanges into Aruba were via OGS or instant exchange?
That was my question as well. OGS exchanges vs instant one’s may be the difference in availability. It would be more concerning if one could not get a 2 bedroom via OGS. I was under the impression that instant exchanges were the left overs.
 

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I've gotten several 2BR but usually with an OGS. Last one about a year and a half ago to Ocean Club for an OF unit for March, 2023. That last one was an instant exchange as a retrade.
 

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Kind of thread-jacking here, but I'm curious as to whether you feel your trading power with MGC has diminished. It seems our 3BR week just doesn't pull as well as it once did in II. Wondering if others find that to be the case with their weeks.
The short answer
I always book and deposit my MGC weeks by the end of May. What drives this is the 13 month booking window for my Grande Ocean. My May deposit and trades are for next years use. As long as I owned the 3 bedroom (2 bedroom prior) MGC, I predominantly trade into summer GO and the trades happen before end of July. This is first time it has not. I noticed the anomaly but thinking it was because II related specific to this year. I did not think beyond this. Since you asked the question, I doubt the trading power of MGC has changed.

The Longer answer.
I normally have either 2 trades a year (annual 3 bedroom) alternating with 4 trades a year (annual and EOY O). Trading is usually 2 summer weeks at GO or 3 summer weeks at GO plus something else depending on year. This adds to my Owner GO week. On occasion I will grab a summer Monarch So a relatively consistent comparison. Prior to 2024 I would have answered no to your question without any doubt.

In 2024 I have 6 trades (my annual, my EOY odd and an EOY even I picked up in 2024). This is more than I could use so I am the vacation fairy for my kids this year. I picked up 2 Monarch July weeks, a Newport Coast mid June and an early May GO. What I have still not gotten are the 2 summer GO's. This was noticed before your question but I never went down the path on thinking it was about the MGC because I am confident it will happen.
 

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Considering Grand Chateau is probably the most "hotel-like" timeshare available and carries with it the meager charm of another hotel in Las Vegas, what's the advantage of owning it?

By the way, I own two of these and use them only as exchange vehicles for points and Interval trades. Someone, please point out better uses for GC. It isn't the views, the pool, or the scenery.
 

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Considering Grand Chateau is probably the most "hotel-like" timeshare available and carries with it the meager charm of another hotel in Las Vegas, what's the advantage of owning it?

By the way, I own two of these and use them only as exchange vehicles for points and Interval trades. Someone, please point out better uses for GC. It isn't the views, the pool, or the scenery.
IMO there's no other reasons to own GC other than to exchange, to use with the 13 month window and possibly for points. Maybe for an isolated sitution where one has to have a 3 BR and two separate units won't work or for the Plus week. Same for Orlando at least for GV & HL. All are nice resorts but just too easy to trade into.
 

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Considering Grand Chateau is probably the most "hotel-like" timeshare available and carries with it the meager charm of another hotel in Las Vegas, what's the advantage of owning it?

By the way, I own two of these and use them only as exchange vehicles for points and Interval trades. Someone, please point out better uses for GC. It isn't the views, the pool, or the scenery.
From a buy to use standpoint, there is little reason to own Grand Chateau. The same would be true for most of the Orlando resorts. Grande Vista included. Though MGV does have the benefit of the Florida Club. These resorts are bought primarily for trading. In all the years we have owned Grande Vista and Harbour Lake, we have yet to use our home resort weeks there.
 

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From a buy to use standpoint, there is little reason to own Grand Chateau. The same would be true for most of the Orlando resorts. Grande Vista included. Though MGV does have the benefit of the Florida Club. These resorts are bought primarily for trading. In all the years we have owned Grande Vista and Harbour Lake, we have yet to use our home resort weeks there.

Agreed. I own GV, HL, and WR and I am yet to stay at any of them.

I do want to visit Epic Universe next year so I am planning to finally stay (most likely at GV) next year- but I certainly will trade in so it only costs me a studio rather than using my full ownership.
 

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Agreed. I own GV, HL, and WR and I am yet to stay at any of them.

I do want to visit Epic Universe next year so I am planning to finally stay (most likely at GV) next year- but I certainly will trade in so it only costs me a studio rather than using my full ownership.
I own at HL, GV, GC & WR and I've stayed at 3 of the 4 but none on the weeks I owned directly, all by exchange.
 

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From a buy to use standpoint, there is little reason to own Grand Chateau. The same would be true for most of the Orlando resorts. Grande Vista included. Though MGV does have the benefit of the Florida Club. These resorts are bought primarily for trading. In all the years we have owned Grande Vista and Harbour Lake, we have yet to use our home resort weeks there.
Would Grande Vista have similar trading power to Grande Chateau? more specifically, both Marriott's having more trading power in II than Lagunamar?
 

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Would Grande Vista have similar trading power to Grande Chateau? more specifically, both Marriott's having more trading power in II than Lagunamar?
You seem to be asking this question by digging up old threads. I think you've got some good information in the threads where you've already asked this. You might be best to start a brand new thread on the subject, though I think you've done that already too.
 

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Would Grande Vista have similar trading power to Grande Chateau? more specifically, both Marriott's having more trading power in II than Lagunamar?
There's little to say there is much difference in trading power between MGV and MGC, either of them would have MVC to MVC preference, so if exchanging into MVC is your goal either would do better than WLR. There is plenty of studio and 1-bed WLR inventory in II so either MVC would trade back into there well too.
You would choose MGC over MGV if you ever thought you would want to exchange into the DVC Orlando resorts due to the regional block on getting DVC Orlando with other Orlando weeks, although that can be got around via having a MGV florida club week.
If you are looking for Nov 2025, that inventory has already been released into II, so you'll be looking to pick up cancellations as they come in and out through the year or possibly more 60 days ahead. Assume that any resale purchase that you make will take several months to process, so go for 2026 first use.
Once you've decided on your resort, the biggest influence on your success will be your ability to understand the system, how to use it to get what you want and your willingness to play the game. Don't expect it to be as easy as booking a hotel.
 
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Would Grande Vista have similar trading power to Grande Chateau? more specifically, both Marriott's having more trading power in II than Lagunamar?
I can't speak specifically for Westin but MX in general has historically had poor trading power. My info suggests that GV will be a little ahead of GC. In the real world and speaking specifically about trading Marriott to Marriott, it likely won't make any difference except for the higher end options like HHI summer, Aruba winter, etc. I think GC is the better value though just for exchanging due to lower fees and if enrolled later, higher points but GV ia part of the FL Club option. Ultimately it comes down to price and how you'll use it. Understand the minutia but don't sweat it.

Edited to correct the miswording since it's GV that's part of the FL CLUB.
 
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There's little to say there is much difference in trading power between MGV and MGC, either of them would have MVC to MVC preference, so if exchanging into MVC is your goal either would do better than WLR. There is plenty of studio and 1-bed WLR inventory in II so either MVC would trade back into there well too.
You would choose MGC over MGV if you ever thought you would want to exchange into the DVC Orlando resorts due to the regional block on getting DVC Orlando with other Orlando weeks, although that can be got around via having a MGV florida club week.
If you are looking for Nov 2025, that inventory has already been released into II, so you'll be looking to pick up cancellations as they come in and out through the year or possibly more 60 days ahead. Assume that any resale purchase that you make will take several months to process, so go for 2026 first use.
Once you've decided on your resort, the biggest influence on your success will be your ability to understand the system, how to use it to get what you want and your willingness to play the game. Don't expect it to be as easy as booking a hotel.
Once the initial inventory is released, are MVC owners once again given priority periods when cancellations come in and out or those are available to all eligible right away?
 

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Once the initial inventory is released, are MVC owners once again given priority periods when cancellations come in and out or those are available to all eligible right away?
It can vary with priority view for cancellations, more often than not the priority period seems to apply, but there are exceptions.
We don't know the rules that II and MVC use so can't say one way or another.
If you do a search for ocean club in the sightings forum you will be able to see if people put seen with MVC or no preference in their posts. Its not a science but an indication.
 

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Once the initial inventory is released, are MVC owners once again given priority periods when cancellations come in and out or those are available to all eligible right away?
Based on past experience and sightings, the priority period starts the first day the deposit is made. So if the cancellation is within the priority period, then the deposit will still be under priority. If the cancellation happens months later, that deposit will show up right away in general inventory on the II website. In fact it may even initially miss any ongoing searches. This is how many people score great last minute exchanges. They are constantly searching online for cancelled exchanges and snag them when they appear.
 

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Based on past experience and sightings, the priority period starts the first day the deposit is made. So if the cancellation is within the priority period, then the deposit will still be under priority. If the cancellation happens months later, that deposit will show up right away in general inventory on the II website. In fact it may even initially miss any ongoing searches. This is how many people score great last minute exchanges. They are constantly searching online for cancelled exchanges and snag them when they appear.
I surely am asking too many questions, partially due to the lack of transparency within II, though I also can imagine why they do this. Since you own non-MVC resorts, would you recall spotting the Marriott Aruba resorts with say the SVV vs your MVCs? As I mentioned in another thread, I already signed docs for a Vistana resort, though the broker is still giving me time to change my mind. Just wondering if I am making a mistake 1) getting a Vistana gold plus season vs platinum plus, and 2) perhaps not going for Marriott's Grande Chateau. I only really see myself going to either Lagunamar or the Aruba resorts so that is why I am double guessing my decision. If I go with Vistana, then I get second priority to exchange for MVC, and if I go with MVC will be more difficult to exchange for Lagunamar(though seems that its not so difficult to get a 1 bedroom exchange there, if I am not mistaken).

It would surely be a lot easier to just rent a week via Redweek, but I do enjoy "the treasure hunt"(as someone else accurately called this process).

thanks!
 

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I surely am asking too many questions, partially due to the lack of transparency within II, though I also can imagine why they do this. Since you own non-MVC resorts, would you recall spotting the Marriott Aruba resorts with say the SVV vs your MVCs? As I mentioned in another thread, I already signed docs for a Vistana resort, though the broker is still giving me time to change my mind. Just wondering if I am making a mistake 1) getting a Vistana gold plus season vs platinum plus, and 2) perhaps not going for Marriott's Grande Chateau. I only really see myself going to either Lagunamar or the Aruba resorts so that is why I am double guessing my decision. If I go with Vistana, then I get second priority to exchange for MVC, and if I go with MVC will be more difficult to exchange for Lagunamar(though seems that its not so difficult to get a 1 bedroom exchange there, if I am not mistaken).

It would surely be a lot easier to just rent a week via Redweek, but I do enjoy "the treasure hunt"(as someone else accurately called this process).

thanks!

Lagunamar is a much easier trade as long as you are good with only a 1-bedroom (2-bedrooms are rarely if ever available in Interval)

Aruba is a tougher trade though possible particularly during Gold season.

I would chose a Marriott week instead personally to get the earlier Marriott to Marriott trade preference for Aruba.
 

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I’ve gotten Aruba Surf Club Spring Break week with a non-hotel branded, albeit Premier, resort through II. And I can always see heaps of Lagunamar. Just saying that you maybe able get what you want for far less, both through initial purchase price and ongoing MF, if you plan to primarily trade into both systems.
 

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I’ve gotten Aruba Surf Club Spring Break week with a non-hotel branded, albeit Premier, resort through II. And I can always see heaps of Lagunamar. Just saying that you maybe able get what you want for far less, both through initial purchase price and ongoing MF, if you plan to primarily trade into both systems.
wow that's awesome. Any suggestions on what trades well like this with lower purchase price and MF?
 

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Lagunamar is a much easier trade as long as you are good with only a 1-bedroom (2-bedrooms are rarely if ever available in Interval)

Aruba is a tougher trade though possible particularly during Gold season.

I would chose a Marriott week instead personally to get the earlier Marriott to Marriott trade preference for Aruba.
Thanks for this insight. 1-bedroom at Lagunamar would be good, just not a studio otherwise (in my opinion) can just stay at a regular hotel room I guess.
 

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Thanks for this insight. 1-bedroom at Lagunamar would be good, just not a studio otherwise (in my opinion) can just stay at a regular hotel room I guess.
If you want a 2 BR at Lagunamar, you can usually pick up a Getaway on the studio side for like $700-800 for the week. When we've gone that's how we've added to our 1 BR trade, which is a little cheaper than using both sides of our lockoff.
 
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