Gout?

[Beaglemom3]

Many health problems can be cured using baking soda, vinagar, lemon juice, hydogen peroxide and other low cost natural ingredients.

1/2 teaspoon of baking soda with lemon juice will not hurt anyone that isn't really, really, really, ph off balanced. Your body already makes its own carbonates and bicarbonates to neutralise the stomach acid, and has buffers to maintain your body pH in the correct range. You can't make significant changes to your internal body chemistry by drinking baking soda or lemon juice. If you could, there would be a lot of dead people.

Also, if baking soda is dangerous wouldn't it be regulated and labled as dangerous on the box ?

So I guess I disagree with the over the top warning of baking soda but in reality there is a chance of increased hypertension in some people.

Ok Then
Bill

All,

Exercise caution when giving or taking medical advice from well meaning, enthusiastic, non-medical people. Always discuss with your own PCP re: interactions with current medications and/or existing medical conditions when/where taking bicarb is contraindicated.

A high alkalotic condition, greater than 7.45, decreases both sodium and potassium. To focus on sodium is missing the point. Alkalosis from baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) is caused by the bicarbonate, not the sodium. To further stress my point: Alkalosis (mod or severe) causes binding (unavailability) of calcium. Calcium is crucial for the functioning of muscles (think beating hearts, functioning diaphragm and rib muscles for breathing). So we are talking about muscle twitching, shallow breathing or cessation of breathing, confusion, seizures. As before, please do your research before alkalinizing your food or water with baking soda( and I don't mean youtube or curezone).

I have seen admissions to the E/R from these so-called alkalinizing diets requiring intubation and ventilation for respiratory support until the underlying cause was corrected.

There is FDA legislation pending to put stronger warning message on baking soda boxes (OTC) http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?id=61491

Here are some good sites:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000538/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19469119

http://askdrgottmd.com/baking-soda-treats-gout/
http://sodiumbicarbonate.imva.info/index.php/main-and-side-effects/warnings-and-contraindications/

http://www.medicinenet.com/sodium_bicarbonate-oral/article.htm

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/drug-information/DR601241/DSECTION=before-using

http://www.merckmanuals.com/home/ho...acid-base_balance/alkalosis.html?qt=&sc=&alt=

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19469119

Beags. RN/MSN/ANP-C/JD

 

[easyrider]

Beaglemom3 is right about talking to your doctor. Before I did the lemon juice dealio I was a bit concerned that the juice could cook my insides. I thought that since lemon juice can cook fish that it might be a bit hard on me. My doctor said it was fine and said he heard of this remedy.

Bill

 

[Beaglemom3]

Beaglemom3 is right about talking to your doctor. Before I did the lemon juice dealio I was a bit concerned that the juice could cook my insides. I thought that since lemon juice can cook fish that it might be a bit hard on me. My doctor said it was fine and said he heard of this remedy.

Bill

Thanks, Bill,
It's the bicarb that I am concerned about. Personally, I like dilute lemon juice and/or homemade lemonade (very little sugar) for my own personal use or while I'm doing a day fast (approved by my PCP).

If, for any reason, I had to take soduim bicarb , I don't think that I could force it down. When I was a kid, I spent the weekend with my Irish (from the "old country") Grandmother. I had forgotten to pack my "Ipana" (dating myself here - ha !), so I had to brush with baking soda, lovingly supplied by my Grammy.
I still gag when I think back to it ! Insert gag icon right here - ha !

 

[Patri]

Beaglemom3 is right about talking to your doctor. Before I did the lemon juice dealio I was a bit concerned that the juice could cook my insides. I thought that since lemon juice can cook fish that it might be a bit hard on me. My doctor said it was fine and said he heard of this remedy.

Bill

Bill, you are not going to believe this. I think it was a God thing. I got your kidney stone recipe just days ago. Told my DH and put it on the fridge. Sat. night he didn't feel great and by morning thought he had the start of stones. Same symptoms as usual. He did the lemon juice thing. Spent the day on the couch. Started feeling better after that first dose. (The lighter mixtures tasted worse, he said). He's going to work today. Any other time, we would have spent the afternoon in the ER. And I have better things to do. Thank you so much!

 

[Don]

It got the name Kings (or rich man's) Disease several hundred years ago because only the rich could afford the food and beverages that cause it. The poor were actually eating healthier (gout wise) than the rich.

When the uric acid levels reach a certain point, it crystallizes in the joints.
For those of you who have never known how painful a gout attack can be, imagine this:
you can take your foot off at the ankle,
pour course sand on the ankle joint,
put your foot back on and try walking.

 

[easyrider]

@ Patri, Your Welcome Im glad it helped.

Bill

 

[Rob&Carol Q]

No that you need any more advice, but...

I went through a period of gout flares about 8 years ago...one after another, seperated by about two months of calm. My blood levels showed a clear spike in Uric Acid and my body just wasn't getting the job done. Been on Allopurinol ever since.

Honestly, that was one of the better decisions I was led to...pain free is a wonderful thing. Gout hurts...even just to look at it.

Personally, go on the med. Takes a little adjustment but the payoff is outstanding. BTW, the comment about losing a few pounds? Probably the best advice most of us could receive.