Finally, an Oceanwatch Gold on eBay

[BarbS]

The contracts for any weeks that were sold with an "ultimate occupancy" provision include specific related wording in the Contract for Purchase and the deed, as well as in a separate Amendment pertaining only to UO. If the seller has the original documents s/he should be able to furnish copies.

Otherwise, I think there is a certain Marriott office that will verify the purchased type of unit/view, which either the seller or buyer can contact by phone. Maybe it's the Owner Modifications office? I'm sure someone who's been through an UO resale can confirm the office and phone number.

Thanks for the info. Is it possible to get it verified before making a bid?

 

[SueDonJ]

Thanks for the info. Is it possible to get it verified before making a bid?

If I'm remembering correctly, then yes, other TUGgers were able to verify the info given by the seller before putting in a bid. (I don't know what would happen, though, if the seller refused to give any info prior to a bid. As a possible buyer I'd back out if the seller was that reluctant from the get-go, but then again I guess it would defeat the seller's purpose to be that reluctant.)

 

[jdunn1]

When I bought my OceanWatch ocean view unit, I logged onto Marriott.com, since I was already an owner and did an on-line chat. I had the seller's owner number, which the rep used to verify the view catagory and week. It was nothing official but you are able to print your on-line chat with whatever marriott rep you get.

If I'm remembering correctly, then yes, other TUGgers were able to verify the info given by the seller before putting in a bid. (I don't know what would happen, though, if the seller refused to give any info prior to a bid. As a possible buyer I'd back out if the seller was that reluctant from the get-go, but then again I guess it would defeat the seller's purpose to be that reluctant.)

 

[disneymom1]

What is ultimate occupancy? I am unfamiliar with that term.

 

[Bucky]

Do you remember who the eBay seller was? Were yours garden, OV, OS, or OF?

One is Oceanside/Gardenview and the other is Oceanside/Oceanview. Both units are in the Pines Bldg.

I bought one unit directly from Nick Lucchesi at CJ Timeshares 407-956-3641 and the other one from another person in his office that I won't refer. Both of these were listed on Ebay but I called Nick and made an offer he couldn't refuse on his unit! LOL. Wish I could have used him for the other unit but it all ended up ok in the long run.

 

[SueDonJ]

"Ultimate Occupancy" occurred when Marriott sold, during the construction phases of certain resorts, Weeks of a certain view/building type that were not yet available for occupancy. Prior to the completion of the resorts' build-out, owners who purchased with an UO provision in their deeds were allowed to stay in a finished unit/building type that was different from their actual purchase. Once build-out throughout the entire resort was complete, occupancy for owners with UO deeds reverted back to the original purchase. Because Marriott must comply with inventory controls when selling, various deeds for Weeks at these resorts may reflect a unit number that is not physically located in the view/building type that was purchased. As well, those Weeks are classified as, for example, "oceanside/gardenview" wherever the view/building type is noted.

Fleshing out the example, Marriott sold SurfWatch Weeks in stages with the oceanside and oceanvista buildings completed prior to the gardenview buildings. For the period of several years when gardenview units were not available for occupancy, buyers could still purchase a Week with "ultimate gardenview occupancy" but were guaranteed usage for the interim in an oceanvista or oceanside unit. Since the build-out has been completed, all Owners using their own Weeks are now placed in the actual unit type that they purchased.

The other resort where it occurred is OceanWatch but I'm not sure of the order of build-out for that resort. There, the four view types are gardenview, oceanside, oceanview and oceanfront. (Sort of interesting that these are the two newest South Carolina Marriott resorts, and the only two where I'm aware UO was used.)

Our Marriott rep clearly explained the UO provision to us when we purchased, and the language in the docs isn't difficult to understand once you know about the possibility. But I can see why it would cause confusion on the resale market, especially when the seller may be somebody working on the Owner's behalf who doesn't know UO could exist.

 

[Gophesjo]

$4,049.01 - a nice round sniper number

 

[jont]

$4,049.01 - a nice round sniper number

Not a bad price but I thought I might go a little lower. It should pass ROFR.
Did you see the 3br surfwatch silver went for $113.50? that's a steal!

 

[EKniager]

Based on the seller's history, let's just hope the buyer actually gets possession of this property.

 

[SueDonJ]

Based on the seller's history, let's just hope the buyer actually gets possession of this property.

And that the previous owner actually gets his money?