FIFI World Cup Viewing

[Brett]

US advances to the "knockout" round. But I'm still trying to figure out "on-sides" & offsides

 

[Patri]

FIFA has unleashed quite the phenomena. This is so much fun.

 

[klpca]

The fact that Boston drank 4 times more beer last weekend that any other 3 day holiday weekend in recorded history is amazeballs. Number of Boston bars serving Tennent's beer as of 5/31/26: 1 Current number of Boston bars serving Tennent's: 69. The numbers are staggering. #ScottishliversforMVP

The fact that the TSA has to remind travelers that they can't carry full-sized ranch dressing bottles in their carry-ons is classic.

And the Germans--training less than a mile from my work--have discovered the joys of late-night Waffle House. Norway's camp is less than a mile from my house.

Like you, @clifffaith, I like the World Cup for many of the same reasons I like the Olympics. I mean, I would like this better if they were the women's teams, but you can't have anything.

#TeamCaboVerde #TeamDRCongo

Have you seen the guy in Instagram that reviewed the traveling outfits for DRCongo and Ivory Coast? The extras of World Cup have been so fun and so extra.

I keep forgetting to cancel our FUBO subscription so luckily we are getting to watch everything. It's been pretty fun.

 

[CanuckTravlr]

Canada is leading Group B, tied with Switzerland but ahead in points differential, after dominating Qatar last night 6-0. If Canada wins or draws against Switzerland they will win Group B and automatically advance to the Knockout Round. Unfortunately, one of our lead players, Ismaël Koné, was hit and suffered a broken leg in the game and is out for the tournament.

Team Canada lost their tentativeness from game 1 and truly dominated game 2. They set a number of records, including the largest CONCACAF margin ever in a World Cup match and the first non-European or non-South American team to score 5 or more goals in a single World Cup match. Go Canada!!

 

[amycurl]

That injury to Kone was devastating to watch!


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[LannyPC]

That injury to Kone was devastating to watch!

Definitely! I have no idea what Assim Mabido was thinking or trying to accomplish on that tackle. The game at that point was pretty much a done deal seeing that Qatar was down 3-0 and short-handed one player. Maybe just taking his frustrations out on an opponent?

 

[klpca]

Paraguay v Turkiye (going with the FIFA spelling) was something else. They couldn't even score against a lower raked opponent who was playing a man down for a full half. I feel sorry for their fans. That was ugly.

 

[DeniseM]

I don't watch the games, but the fans are hysterical!

 

[LannyPC]

US advances to the "knockout" round. But I'm still trying to figure out "on-sides" & offsides

It is a challenge to explain it in just a few words but here goes. When an attacking player tries to pass forward to a teammate, at the time the player passed the ball (not at the time the teammate received the ball), there must be at least two defenders (the goalie can count as one of them) closer to the goal line than the attacking player receiving the ball. Basically, the attacker receiving the pass can not be in behind all the defence. In hockey, there's a derogatory name for that method or style of play called "goal sucking".

So unlike hockey or basketball, an attacking player cannot receive a "breakaway" pass.

IMHO, I think it's an archaic rule that takes a lot of offence out of the game, but, the traditionalists outnumber me. So if I wish to continue watching soccer, I have to put up with this archaic rule.

 

[davidvel]

It is a challenge to explain it in just a few words but here goes. When an attacking player tries to pass forward to a teammate, at the time the player passed the ball (not at the time the teammate received the ball), there must be at least two defenders (the goalie can count as one of them) closer to the goal line than the attacking player receiving the ball. Basically, the attacker receiving the pass can not be in behind all the defence. In hockey, there's a derogatory name for that method or style of play called "goal sucking".

So unlike hockey or basketball, an attacking player cannot receive a "breakaway" pass.

IMHO, I think it's an archaic rule that takes a lot of offence out of the game, but, the traditionalists outnumber me. So if I wish to continue watching soccer, I have to put up with this archaic rule.

The basic rule is quite simple as you explain once you learn it. However, like every sport, the basic rule often gets gobbled up by the exceptions. You do a good job encapsulating the rule (law.) But as a former player, coach and US Soccer Federation referee, I'll take exception (tongue in cheek) with your characterization of "tries to pass forward to a teammate."

As we saw with the US team and Balogun, the player is not offside (it is not offsides, just like Nordstom), and not a foul, until they actually receive the ball or are involved in active play. Active play means they (physically, not mentally) hindered a defender from making a play or challenged a defender for the ball.

The reason I mention this is young players and all their parents (as well as too many fans) think if a teammate passes a ball forward and a teammate is in an offside position, that they are offside.

The hardest things for casual fans is what you explain about the position of the teammate when the ball is first played by their team. Unless you played, are a rapid fan, or a referee, fans are just not tuned to look at all the other players at the moment the ball is passed. Also, forwards are adept at perfect timing to stay in an offiside position. Once the ball is passed forward, the teammate can be well past the 2nd to last defender and everyone puts their arm up and yells OFFSIDES.

Of course there are all sorts of interpretations and exceptions. I'm happy to answer any questions anyone has. It has been a great tournament so far. My final comment is that offside is so inherent in the game, it would be like making a touchdown 4 points or a homerun a 3 base play.

 

[Brett]

It is a challenge to explain it in just a few words but here goes. When an attacking player tries to pass forward to a teammate, at the time the player passed the ball (not at the time the teammate received the ball), there must be at least two defenders (the goalie can count as one of them) closer to the goal line than the attacking player receiving the ball. Basically, the attacker receiving the pass can not be in behind all the defence. In hockey, there's a derogatory name for that method or style of play called "goal sucking".

So unlike hockey or basketball, an attacking player cannot receive a "breakaway" pass.

IMHO, I think it's an archaic rule that takes a lot of offence out of the game, but, the traditionalists outnumber me. So if I wish to continue watching soccer, I have to put up with this archaic rule.

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The basic rule is quite simple as you explain once you learn it. However, like every sport, the basic rule often gets gobbled up by the exceptions. You do a good job encapsulating the rule (law.) But as a former player, coach and US Soccer Federation referee, I'll take exception (tongue in cheek) with your characterization of "tries to pass forward to a teammate."

As we saw with the US team and Balogun, the player is not offside (it is not offsides, just like Nordstom), and not a foul, until they actually receive the ball or are involved in active play. Active play means they (physically, not mentally) hindered a defender from making a play or challenged a defender for the ball.

The reason I mention this is young players and all their parents (as well as too many fans) think if a teammate passes a ball forward and a teammate is in an offside position, that they are offside.

The hardest things for casual fans is what you explain about the position of the teammate when the ball is first played by their team. Unless you played, are a rapid fan, or a referee, fans are just not tuned to look at all the other players at the moment the ball is passed. Also, forwards are adept at perfect timing to stay in an offiside position. Once the ball is passed forward, the teammate can be well past the 2nd to last defender and everyone puts their arm up and yells OFFSIDES.

Of course there are all sorts of interpretations and exceptions. I'm happy to answer any questions anyone has. It has been a great tournament so far. My final comment is that offside is so inherent in the game, it would
be like making a touchdown 4 points or a homerun a 3 base play.

Thx for the explanations. A little googling reveals the origin of the rule why it exists but I'm just a casual fan so the nuances of the sport escape me

 

[LannyPC]

I'll take exception (tongue in cheek) with your characterization of "tries to pass forward to a teammate."... if a teammate passes a ball forward and a teammate is in an offside position, that they are offside....Once the ball is passed forward, the teammate can be well past the 2nd to last defender and everyone puts their arm up and yells OFFSIDES.

Of course there are all sorts of interpretations and exceptions.

Yes, the rule has many interpretations and exceptions. In fact, FIFA just before the tournament had to make adjustments to the offside rule to stipulate and specify what constitutes "closer to the goal line".

But the reason why I emphasized forward pass is because the attacker receiving the pass is not offside if he/she is behind the ball when it is passed. And then there is the other exception that if the attacker is on his/her own side of midfield and receives the pass, that is not offside.

 

[davidvel]

Yes, the rule has many interpretations and exceptions. In fact, FIFA just before the tournament had to make adjustments to the offside rule to stipulate and specify what constitutes "closer to the goal line".

But the reason why I emphasized forward pass is because the attacker receiving the pass is not offside if he/she is behind the ball when it is passed. And then there is the other exception that if the attacker is on his/her own side of midfield and receives the pass, that is not offside.

Minor clarification, the the recipient is not in an offside position if they are in their own half when the ball is played, but can be in opponent's half when they receive the pass (offside position is always judged when ball is played.). Also, you can never be offside on a goal kick, throw in, or corner kick.