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Experience exiting QM Resorts / Ridge Sierra

Ean1

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Trying to get out of a QM / Ridge Sierra timeshare. I've posted it here and tried the deedback route with QM, no luck in either case.

Has anyone gone down the stop payment route with QM, and if so, what was your experience?
thanks
Ean
 
Trying to get out of a QM / Ridge Sierra timeshare. I've posted it here and tried the deedback route with QM, no luck in either case.

Has anyone gone down the stop payment route with QM, and if so, what was your experience?
thanks
Ean
Hi Ean1, I'm going through the foreclosure now with RS. So I read my deed of trust and it appears that if I default, the remedy they have is the power of sale and foreclosure. So my maintenance fees are secured by the property and they may repossess it through foreclosure to recover any money. My contract that was written by them says they will exercise their power of sale and foreclosure in the event I default in either payments or maintenance fees. I have defaulted. I think I am two years into defaulting. In my state, the statute of limitations for collections is 4 years. I guess it could take up to 4 years until they can't collect on it any longer and they will have to foreclose. I will not pursue them for a deedback. Honestly, I am hell-bent on getting out. I got Covid-19 from the last time I stayed there and I never got it in all the time the virus was raging. I am a senior citizen in a protected age class in the state of Nevada and I nearly died. I have received two messages from RS accounting which I did not respond to. I ignore any calls from RS and I pile up any correspondence from them. I do not want them to get the idea I am equivocal in any way. I truly honestly just don't care anymore. I don't want to be responsible for their negligence if someone gets sick while staying there while renting the place from me. So renting it out is not an option for me anymore. If you have deeded ownership at the RS then this may be the path forward for you. They have a "club" type membership that I never upgraded to which is treated like personal property and not real estate. This may require a different way to default. Let me know if you can't find your deed of trust and I'll photograph the power of sale clause and send it to you. Rest assured we are not alone in going through this. We are not the first and won't be the last. If it does end up on your credit report, there is always disputing it which could cause it to be removed from your credit report anyway. They have to be dead accurate about everything, dates, amounts spellings, etc. If anything is amiss you will have grounds for dispute through FCRA and writing back and forth with RS which they are not good at. I'm not even sure there is a manager since no one ever called me after I sent pictures and complained. I'm doing just as recommended here on TUG. Walk away. Good luck to you.
 
Hi Ean1, I'm going through the foreclosure now with RS. So I read my deed of trust and it appears that if I default, the remedy they have is the power of sale and foreclosure. So my maintenance fees are secured by the property and they may repossess it through foreclosure to recover any money. My contract that was written by them says they will exercise their power of sale and foreclosure in the event I default in either payments or maintenance fees. I have defaulted. I think I am two years into defaulting. In my state, the statute of limitations for collections is 4 years. I guess it could take up to 4 years until they can't collect on it any longer and they will have to foreclose. I will not pursue them for a deedback. Honestly, I am hell-bent on getting out. I got Covid-19 from the last time I stayed there and I never got it in all the time the virus was raging. I am a senior citizen in a protected age class in the state of Nevada and I nearly died. I have received two messages from RS accounting which I did not respond to. I ignore any calls from RS and I pile up any correspondence from them. I do not want them to get the idea I am equivocal in any way. I truly honestly just don't care anymore. I don't want to be responsible for their negligence if someone gets sick while staying there while renting the place from me. So renting it out is not an option for me anymore. If you have deeded ownership at the RS then this may be the path forward for you. They have a "club" type membership that I never upgraded to which is treated like personal property and not real estate. This may require a different way to default. Let me know if you can't find your deed of trust and I'll photograph the power of sale clause and send it to you. Rest assured we are not alone in going through this. We are not the first and won't be the last. If it does end up on your credit report, there is always disputing it which could cause it to be removed from your credit report anyway. They have to be dead accurate about everything, dates, amounts spellings, etc. If anything is amiss you will have grounds for dispute through FCRA and writing back and forth with RS which they are not good at. I'm not even sure there is a manager since no one ever called me after I sent pictures and complained. I'm doing just as recommended here on TUG. Walk away. Good luck to you.
Thank you so much for your comment, and very sorry to hear about the experience with covid at the resort, yuck! Yes, we have a deeded membership that was purchased by my father-in-law in the late 80s. We were 'gifted' the deed in 2008 or so.

We've stopped paying beginning with this year's maintenance. It's a little disappointing yours is 2 years in and no real contact from them. I had to call almost a dozen times before I could talk to someone about deedback, and that was just a big no. BBB is full of people asking about deedback, and their response is always 'our board doesn't offer that option'. I even asked how i get my name on the board ballot, and he replied 'i don't know'.

Have they reported anything on your credit report?

The quality of the property has deteriorated over there years, and despite calling well in advance for off-peak stays, we always end up in a lower floor unit in sore need of maintenance. In their sales pitch to us to 'upgrade' around 2020, they said that upgrades would 'move you to the top of the queue for reservations'. That essentially de-values our existing membership, which i think we see in the subpar units we end up getting.

I'll dig up my deed and read the fine print, thanks for the offer!

thanks again for the reply!
Ean
 
You are pretty safe to just stop paying, ignore their calls, let them take it back however they want. Management sounds like a mess. Credit hit will be minimal if at all. Do you even care at this stage of your lives? Your ownership is worthless. They know it.
 
You are pretty safe to just stop paying, ignore their calls, let them take it back however they want. Management sounds like a mess. Credit hit will be minimal if at all. Do you even care at this stage of your lives? Your ownership is worthless. They know it.
Thank you Patri. I am doing exactly that. The deed of trust says if I default they will exercise power of sale and right to foreclosure. I am counting on it. I want out. I never want to return to that timeshare ever again.

They now rent out their units on booking.com and other listing sites for which they should now bear the cost of running this as a hotel. This is no longer what I signed up for so they can just have it back. At this stage of my life I want to travel to other areas of the world. I am done with just Lake Tahoe. I don't even need a trail map for Heavenly ski resort as I have it memorized, I've been going there for so long. Since giving up the Lake Tahoe timeshare I have vacationed in Asia. I plan on going back again this year. It feels so good to be free of this burden.

I ignore all calls and letters from RS now just so we don't have start all over again. I want them to know I am unequivocal and this is a done deal. I am sure they are anxious to convert all those old timer memberships into the newer "club" memberships anyway. Now they can own it again and do whatever they want.

As for my credit, I haven't seen any effects but if I do, I will be sure to call the credit agency and let them know that this was a timeshare not a home. I had a dispute that could not be resolved and this was the resolution as provided for in my deed of trust. Also, if there are any mistakes with amounts, dates, misspellings, anything, then the credit reporting agency will take a dispute and eventually remove it from my account. But you are probably correct that they don't even report it. The deed of trust makes reference to a "nonjudicial foreclosure." If this doesn't even go through the courts, then this is all paperwork for them. And if it is a negative effect, I suspect my past, present and future bill paying habits will quickly cover up and repair any negative impact.

Thank you for your kind words. I came to this site to first see if anyone else has had any experience defaulting on their RS timeshare and what their experience and results were. Now I feel encouraged. I will post updates. The last time I got a missed call from them was 4/26/25 which I did not return. I have letters that have gone unopened. No calls from collections. They probably won't send it there if it costs any money since they know they won't recover that money either.
 
Thank you so much for your comment, and very sorry to hear about the experience with covid at the resort, yuck! Yes, we have a deeded membership that was purchased by my father-in-law in the late 80s. We were 'gifted' the deed in 2008 or so.

We've stopped paying beginning with this year's maintenance. It's a little disappointing yours is 2 years in and no real contact from them. I had to call almost a dozen times before I could talk to someone about deedback, and that was just a big no. BBB is full of people asking about deedback, and their response is always 'our board doesn't offer that option'. I even asked how i get my name on the board ballot, and he replied 'i don't know'.

Have they reported anything on your credit report?

The quality of the property has deteriorated over there years, and despite calling well in advance for off-peak stays, we always end up in a lower floor unit in sore need of maintenance. In their sales pitch to us to 'upgrade' around 2020, they said that upgrades would 'move you to the top of the queue for reservations'. That essentially de-values our existing membership, which i think we see in the subpar units we end up getting.

I'll dig up my deed and read the fine print, thanks for the offer!

thanks again for the reply!
Ean
They have not reported negatively on my credit history. If they do, I will request they post my bill paying history to illustrate I did not default while paying on the mortgage. If there are any errors, I will dispute the report and have it removed from my credit history. If there are any errors in anything at all, I will dispute and let the credit reporting agency decide. Also, I would be counting on my past, present and future bill paying habits to repair any damage they may happen to inflict. The deed of trust says nonjudicial foreclosure so I guess that means it doesn't go through the court. They just record a foreclosure with the county recorder and the process begins. They don't have a choice if we choose default they have to foreclose. I have read they offer the deed back after you go through the process as a "deed back in lieu of foreclosure" but they have to initiate foreclosure first. Whether they do or they don't I want out so I default.

Are all the people at the better business bureau not willing to go through foreclosure? I want a foreclosure because I want out. The alternative is just not prudent. I rent out my week when I won't use it and if someone got sick from staying in that awful unit, then I can't risk getting sued for their negligence. I really just have to get out. Trust me when I say, you have done the right thing by defaulting. If you get a credit hit then call the agency and ask what you can do to repair your credit and they will advise you. I believe they said I can indicate that this was a timeshare and not a home. Also, credit repair considers past, present and future payment history.

I opened their last letter and it was billing me for 2025 only. I also did not pay 2024.

Did you upgrade to their "club" membership? I did not. I agree that the units I have been getting have been subpar. Are you aware they rent out the units on booking.com and hotels.com? Since they have turned into a hotel, they should have to bear the cost of running such an establishment. Yet another reason to be out of this.

The only way out - provided for in the contract is foreclosure, I look forward to getting a notice of default soon. I'll write again when I do get it. Please do the same.
 
Update:

I think the foreclosure is making progress. How are you and your family doing with your RS exit? Anything new? I am not sure whether or not they can read what we post here so I hold back a little.

I received another letter that said if I failed to pay by June 5, the account would be referred to collections and my use suspended. I assume suspension means the lien and foreclosure have begun. So I failed to pay. I received a letter from a collection agency (in Florida??). I am not going to pay. I am not going to respond hoping it goes into foreclosure. I am waiting for a notice of default or something like that to come in the mail. Did you receive any such notice? Did you get anything from a Florida collection agency? I do not intend to respond to the letter because if I do nothing at all, my deed of trust says they will foreclose to recover what is owed which is all I want them to do. I continue to wait.
 
Hello - sorry for the late reply. Things are proceeding slowly. We are getting the annoying calls and threatening letters, nothing else yet. Just kind of waiting ...

we do get the letters from Florida as well. hoping it just goes away soon.
I hope you and yours are doing well!
Ean
 
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