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Difference between lock-out and regular two-bedroom?

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shahadit

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Is there a difference between purchasing a regular two-bedroom versus a lock-out two-bedroom timeshare? I am looking to purchase a two-bedroom timeshare with the option of trading a one-bedroom and getting a longer stay.

I don't always have a family bug enough to stay in a two-bedroom.



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If I understand your question:

If you purchase a 2BR lockout unit, you can either use (or trade) the entire 2BR unit all at once or split it (lock off) the week into a 1BR Master unit and a separate efficiency unit. (There is a small fee to lock off the unit.) If the unit is split, you could for example stay in the 1BR or the efficiency but trade the other portion of your unit for a second week of vacation (expect a trading fee).

If you purchase a dedicated 2BR unit that cannot be locked off, you will have one week of timeshare usage with that 2BR to either stay there or trade the entire 2BR.

The "trading power" (the ability to make a desirable trade or a trade into another 2BR unit elsewhere) will generally be greater if you deposit a 2BR unit compared to a 1BR Master unit. And a 1BR will have more trading power than an efficiency. However, many Marriott units trade pretty well. My Marriott week is a "stronger trader" than my Sedona Summit week. So my Marriott efficiency will pull better trades than my Sedona efficiency.

I own a 2BR lockout (I am not a points owner) and almost always lock-off. I like the flexibility and prefer it that way, but it is a personal choice. From the way you phrased your question, it seems that you would as well. Still, if you are buying a resale week (rather than a points purchase direct from Marriott), you want to buy into a resort you will enjoy.

Another thing to understand: let's say I desire a 2 week (back to back) stay at my home resort. With Marriott, I cannot reserve week 1 in the 1BR and week 2 in the efficiency. I have to reserve my entire 2BR unit all at once, lock it off, keep the 1BR portion for my use and then try to trade the other portion (let's say the efficiency) and pick up the following (or prior) week (hopefully as a 1BR Master - it's nice to "trade up"). (But I can reserve back to back weeks with my Sedona Summit timeshare if I wish. Different resort companies have different rules.)
 
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Is this something unique to DSVII?
I own a couple of MVC lock offs and have several times reserved week one for the Master and week two for the efficiency to get back to back stays.

GetawaysRus said:
Another thing to understand: let's say I desire a 2 week (back to back) stay at my home resort. With Marriott, I cannot reserve week 1 in the 1BR and week 2 in the efficiency. I have to reserve my entire 2BR unit all at once, lock it off, keep the 1BR portion for my use and then try to trade the other portion (let's say the efficiency) and pick up the following (or prior) week (hopefully as a 1BR Master - it's nice to "trade up"). (But I can reserve back to back weeks with my Sedona Summit timeshare if I wish. Different resort companies have different rules.)
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bazzap said:
Is this something unique to DSVII?
I own a couple of MVC lock offs and have several times reserved week one for the Master and week two for the efficiency to get back to back stays.
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I think perhaps what was meant is that you can't book back to back perhaps in the same phone call at 12 months? Or you can't stay in the same unit for both weeks unless you trade one of them for the same unit type that you reserved for the other? I agree, you can definitely book a back to back stay with a lock off. You just have to be willing to change units mid stay.
 
There are some differences depending on the resort as well. Marriott Manor Club is split into two resort codes - MMC - the original resort, only has dedicated two bedrooms. MSE - the "Sequel" side, only has lock-offs. I have to trade back in to get from the lock-offs into a dedicated two bedroom in the original section. We have a three bedroom at Lakeshore that doesn't have that anomaly. I get to just choose to lockoff for a fee (or not) at reservation time. They are not separated off via a resort code.

The sleep capacity in a dedicated 2br is often different than the lockoff units. The lockoff will typically have a mini-fridge, sink etc in the 2nd bedroom.

If you're traveling with curious young kids, having the door to the outside in a lockoff room can be something to be aware of. A dedicated unit won't have the second entrance door. The studio side units often do not have a balcony/patio area as well.

We have really appreciated the flexibility and value of having the lockoff. We are a small family, so we always split the unit and take it as two weeks.

Kelly
 
Another thing, a lock off unit will almost always have two king beds, where a dedicated 2BR will usually have a king in the master and two queens in the second bedroom. This can especially be important depending on the sleeping situation. If you have two grown teenagers, they often won't want to sleep in the same bed, so a dedicated 2BR with two queens in the second bedroom would be great. Something like Royal Palms or Cypress Harbour would not, as both only have a queen bed in the second bedroom.
 
Another point worth noting is at resorts which have both dedicated 2BR and Lock-Off 2BR units, even if you own a dedicated 2BR unit, you can still reserve a Lock-Off unit, provided they are available at the time of your reservation.
 
If I understand correctly, purchasing a two-bedroom has the same trading power as a two-bedroom lock-off?


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shahadit said:
If I understand correctly, purchasing a two-bedroom has the same trading power as a two-bedroom lock-off?


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If you are trading the full 2BR, then all else being equal I would agree.

If you are saying that by buying a 2BR you always have the same ability to lock off as if you owned a lock off, then that only works at resorts that have both. As an example, at Grande Ocean where they only own dedicated 2BR units, you can never lock off there.

I wasn't totally clear what you were questioning hence my two pronged reply.
 
Your questions are a little confusing. What resort are you looking at? Knowing that it would be easier to answer the question.

A 2 br lockoff and a 2br non lockoff for the same date at the same resort deposited with interval international at the same time should have identical trading power. If you deposit one br vs the 2 br entire unit you will have slightly less trading power for instant exchanges and would lose the ability to request a 2 br ongoing search with II. If you deposit the studio side you will have considerably less trading power than either the 2br or 1 br lock off portion.

Most Marriott float week/float unit resorts let you reserve and deposit a lock off (if they are available at that resort)regardless of whether or not your deeded unit is a lock off. Manor club in Williamsburg will have only dedicated 2 br units available if you are deeded in the original section and ony lock offs if you are deeded in the sequel. You do not have the option to cross sections when reserving there.
 
dioxide45 said:
I think perhaps what was meant is that you can't book back to back perhaps in the same phone call at 12 months? Or you can't stay in the same unit for both weeks unless you trade one of them for the same unit type that you reserved for the other? I agree, you can definitely book a back to back stay with a lock off. You just have to be willing to change units mid stay.
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OK, that makes sense.
We do have to switch from the Master to the Efficiency at the end of the first week (or vice versa), but for us getting back to back weeks effectively for the price of one is well worth it.
 
dioxide45 said:
I think perhaps what was meant is that you can't book back to back perhaps in the same phone call at 12 months? Or you can't stay in the same unit for both weeks unless you trade one of them for the same unit type that you reserved for the other? I agree, you can definitely book a back to back stay with a lock off. You just have to be willing to change units mid stay.
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Interesting. I've owned a week at DSV2 since 2004, and have been told by MVC phone reps that I should reserve the full DSV2 2BR and then lock it off. I'll have to inquire specifically if I can reserve just a portion of my unit (just the 1BR Master) when I call next. Maybe the rep who first gave me that info some years ago was wrong, and I've never thought to inquire again. I learn things all the time on TUG.

It's never been a problem for us because we don't plan back-to-back stays.
 
GetawaysRus said:
Interesting. I've owned a week at DSV2 since 2004, and have been told by MVC phone reps that I should reserve the full DSV2 2BR and then lock it off. I'll have to inquire specifically if I can reserve just a portion of my unit (just the 1BR Master) when I call next. Maybe the rep who first gave me that info some years ago was wrong, and I've never thought to inquire again. I learn things all the time on TUG.

It's never been a problem for us because we don't plan back-to-back stays.
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Semantics. When you call, there must be availability for both of your selections (1 br and studio or 2br and 1br etc....) on your desired dates.... But, you are ultimately 'locking-off' and then booking two separate reservations. Also, if you make a reservation and then have family/guests cancel, you can call in and see if they will lock-off and re-book a portion (master or studio etc...) of your reservation. I don't think this is routine, but I've had to do it because of a change of plans.

Cheers.
 
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