Delta Plane crash in Toronto

[pedro47]

Just hear this on the Telly, Delta are offering each passenger on that flight
$30,000.00.

 

[am1]

Just hear this on the Telly, Delta are offering each passenger on that flight
$30,000.00.

A very low offer considering it is their first offer.

 

[moonstone]

Just hear this on the Telly, Delta are offering each passenger on that flight
$30,000.00.

And with no strings attached -so the passengers can also file a lawsuit for more. https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...ane-crash-passenger-30k/79238041007/?tbref=hp

We are able to watch the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp) news down here in Belize and on the news last evening we saw that some passengers are organizing a class action lawsuit while others are doing individual ones. We also saw that many (most?) passengers do not have their belongings that were left in the plane back yet. The plane was removed from the runway yesterday and hopefully YYZ can resume normal operations soon, if it hasn't already.

~Diane

 

[Patri]

I wish they would wait until the investigation is over.

 

[dioxide45]

I wish they would wait until the investigation is over.

That can take up to two years.

 

[Patri]

That can take up to two years.

So? It would be nice to know the fault.

 

[davidvel]

And with no strings attached -so the passengers can also file a lawsuit for more. https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...ane-crash-passenger-30k/79238041007/?tbref=hp

We are able to watch the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp) news down here in Belize and on the news last evening we saw that some passengers are organizing a class action lawsuit while others are doing individual ones. We also saw that many (most?) passengers do not have their belongings that were left in the plane back yet. The plane was removed from the runway yesterday and hopefully YYZ can resume normal operations soon, if it hasn't already.

~Diane

Correct it is a good faith gesture to the passengers to deal with the immediate effects. No release, no waiver, just cold hard cash. Smart move.

 

[LannyPC]

Perhaps some passenger will think, "yeah, $30,000 is pretty generous. No need to drag this out through courts and with lawyers. I'll take the $30,000 and get on with my life."

 

[easyrider]

So? It would be nice to know the fault.

I'm not certain but it seems the pilot was using the wing flap when a gust hit causing the plane to flap stall and drop a short distance.

Bill

 

[Chrispee]

I'm not certain but it seems the pilot was using the wing flap when a gust hit causing the plane to flap stall and drop a short distance.

Bill

Flaps are always used on landing because they increase lift and lower stall speed.

 

[davidvel]

I'm not certain but it seems the pilot was using the wing flap when a gust hit causing the plane to flap stall and drop a short distance.

Bill

What loony tunes site did you read that? Utterly unfounded and completely disconnected to the known facts. Man Bill, you are out there.

 

[billymach4]

Hard Landing caused the Right Main Landing gear to collapse, followed by the right wing to fail and break off at the wing root. This caused an imbalance and lifted the left wing followed by the left wing increasing in height due to continued aerodynamic lift at the high speed and twisting the airframe fuselage over 180 degrees.

 

[easyrider]

What loony tunes site did you read that? Utterly unfounded and completely disconnected to the known facts. Man Bill, you are out there.

I think it was the CBC on YouTube showing a video of the crash taken by a Leer Jet pilot on the runway with an aviation official who explains that the flaps are up and a gust is lifting the airplane causing a flap stall which dropped the airplane a short distance which caused the wing to hit the ground and ignite then come apart from the airplane. If I see it show up again I will post it.

Bill

 

[easyrider]

Flaps are always used on landing because they increase lift and lower stall speed.

I think what they eluded to was the flaps were up and at the same time a gust of wind hit the flaps causing what they said was a flap stall which dropped the plane. This wasn't an official cause of crash. It was a narrative of the crash using a video taken by a pilot on the runway.

Bill

 

[Chrispee]

I think what they eluded to was the flaps were up and at the same time a gust of wind hit the flaps causing what they said was a flap stall which dropped the plane. This wasn't an official cause of crash. It was a narrative of the crash using a video taken by a pilot on the runway.

Bill

I'm not super familiar with the CRJ900, but from the videos I've seen it seems pretty obvious that the flaps are down prior to the crash. No commercial aircraft that I can think of lands with flaps up. The explanation that @billymach4 posted seems like the most plausible to me, but let's see what the investigation uncovers.

 

[geist1223]

Spoilers are different from Flaps. The primary purpose of the Flaps is to lengthen/extend the Wing Cord so Plane will maintain Lift at a slower speed. Bernoulli effect. Spoilers are to disrupt the air flow thus reducing Lift. So as a Plane is preparing to Land Flaps are extended. As a Plane touches down the Spoilers are raised to reduce Lift and keep Plane on the Ground.

 

[easyrider]

I'm not super familiar with the CRJ900, but from the videos I've seen it seems pretty obvious that the flaps are down prior to the crash. No commercial aircraft that I can think of lands with flaps up. The explanation that @billymach4 posted seems like the most plausible to me, but let's see what the investigation uncovers.

I only watched the video once and I think many of you know more about airplane flap positions than me so in the video it's probably being analyzed as the flaps down and a gust of wind hitting the airplane causing a flap stall.

Bill