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Defaulting on Worldmark The Club

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Thanks, I"m looking forward to seeing how it all works. Looks like the program is a little different then Wyndham's. What do you think WorldMark has to offer over Wyndham?
I like many of their resorts better.
 

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It's the Bonus Time that makes the difference. You can book short last minute stays without running out of housekeeping credits. I never see free WM accounts on TS nation.
 

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I jotted down this tale on spreadsheet.
 

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Thanks, I"m looking forward to seeing how it all works. Looks like the program is a little different then Wyndham's. What do you think WorldMark has to offer over Wyndham?

West Coast inventory.

Bill
 

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I often read that it is cheaper to rent than MF. I periodically check, but you have to check apples to apples. I think probably all timeshares rent open weeks directly or thru one of the sites like expedia. When I have checked on ours, the price has always been higher than the MF. Hotel rentals have to pay tax, which in Hawaii, where ours are, 13.5%. Plus there are usually other costs.
Perhaps if I was will to stay in a less desirable location or unit it might be cheaper.
 

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The trick if you're going to rent WM is to actually own a 5,000 credit account and rent the POINTS from another owner on wmowners.com.
The way WM has MF structured is the more points you own, the less you pay per thousand. That leads to a lot of people with high point accounts having extra points that they need to sell. If you own a 5,000 point contract, you owe $569 a year, or $114 per thousand a year and get 1 HK token and access to bonus time and inventory specials. When you need to more points, you can rent them for $60-70 per thousand from another owner and make your own reservation with your own account in your name. If you are going to use WM more than once a year outside of inventory specials and bonus time, that's when you want a bigger account for extra housekeeping credits. Also when times are tough you are only liable for the $569 a year.

For us Club Wyndham owners, it pairs perfectly if you vacation in areas with both WM and Club Wyndham properties. For example, when I go to Ocean Walk, I want to use WM because their point chart actually lets you pick your view, plus the cost is lower. Out of the 3 times I've gone with my Club Wyndham points, I've only gotten ocean front once out of the 3 times I requested it. If I only want to rent a 3 bedroom at Reunion for 2 nights for a quick family get together with my sister and parents, I would run out of housekeeping credits because the reservation costs around 45,000 points but 140 housekeeping credits. The alternative is to just use bonus time for around $250 and not run out of housekeeping.

There is another way I can get my view request and unlimited housekeeping with owning 100% Club Wyndham, but that has a $27,000 minimum purchase price. No thanks, I'm going to go with the free WM account (whenever I can get my hands on one once this crisis passes).
 

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The trick if you're going to rent WM is to actually own a 5,000 credit account and rent the POINTS from another owner on wmowners.com.
The way WM has MF structured is the more points you own, the less you pay per thousand. That leads to a lot of people with high point accounts having extra points that they need to sell. If you own a 5,000 point contract, you owe $569 a year, or $114 per thousand a year and get 1 HK token and access to bonus time and inventory specials. When you need to more points, you can rent them for $60-70 per thousand from another owner and make your own reservation with your own account in your name. If you are going to use WM more than once a year outside of inventory specials and bonus time, that's when you want a bigger account for extra housekeeping credits. Also when times are tough you are only liable for the $569 a year.

For us Club Wyndham owners, it pairs perfectly if you vacation in areas with both WM and Club Wyndham properties. For example, when I go to Ocean Walk, I want to use WM because their point chart actually lets you pick your view, plus the cost is lower. Out of the 3 times I've gone with my Club Wyndham points, I've only gotten ocean front once out of the 3 times I requested it. If I only want to rent a 3 bedroom at Reunion for 2 nights for a quick family get together with my sister and parents, I would run out of housekeeping credits because the reservation costs around 45,000 points but 140 housekeeping credits. The alternative is to just use bonus time for around $250 and not run out of housekeeping.

There is another way I can get my view request and unlimited housekeeping with owning 100% Club Wyndham, but that has a $27,000 minimum purchase price. No thanks, I'm going to go with the free WM account (whenever I can get my hands on one once this crisis passes).
If my recent Worldmark purchase dosen't work out as I plan you will be the first one I offer it to for free.
 
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If my recent Worldmark purchase dosen't work out as I plan you will be the one I offer it to for free.

That could very well happen. Almost all of the eBay listings I see for WorldMark include the disclaimer that anyone who has used Ovations for a Wyndham or WorldMark ownership in the past would be ineligible to purchase; that likely would apply to a transfer from Timeshare Nation as well. I'll be interested to see if it happens to you.
 

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That could very well happen. Almost all of the eBay listings I see for WorldMark include the disclaimer that anyone who has used Ovations for a Wyndham or WorldMark ownership in the past would be ineligible to purchase; that likely would apply to a transfer from Timeshare Nation as well. I'll be interested to see if it happens to you.
I have talked to Ovations about this. Wyndham will not let you buy developer but you can buy resale. I have never used Ovations. They would not take back my deeds because I didn't own them for a year. Sold the 4 deeds back to Wyndham through a third party using Wyndham's preferred resaled broker. Sounds nuts but it happened last year. The transfer time from start to finish was 5 weeks on first 2 then 4 weeks on last 2 deeds. I assume they must have needed Grand Desert inventory. Purchase agreement stated buyers first year of use 2020 as I already used all 616,000 points for current use year.
 
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