CWA Prices

[ronparise]

Yup, not used to dealing in 5 figures, LOL. And I know why these are listed now.

Kind of a cryptic comment.. with your cards close to your vest.
My purchase last night was cancelled...look for another 800000 CWA soon

 

[JeffBrown]

Thanks

no reason to stay away from these guys. They arent my favorite either, but they do ultimately get this stuff closed..

Everyone cant be a Sumday, If you want to play in this arena, sometimes you have to play with folks that arent your favorites

Ron,
Thank you, we get compliments on TUG often and I appreciate every one of them but your a true Pro in the industry of Wyndham and just the flippant nature of the compliment caught me off guard.

Have a good weekend.
Jeff

 

[antjmar]

Did you get the CWA contract last night 1.300.000 points $16500 plus $750?
I had a question and by the time I got my question answered, It was gone.

It's available again!!!

 

[ronparise]

so whats going on... nearly 4 million CWA points for sale on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-USE-41...48457-36300-/391240772732?hash=item5b17c46c7c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYNDHAM-CLU...L-TIMESHARE-/252072611942?hash=item3ab0b2d066

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLUB-WYNDHA...AL-POINTS-A-/291550793716?hash=item43e1c80ff4

http://www.ebay.com/itm/802-500-CLU...NG-TRANSFER-/151794649109?hash=item2357aa8815

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYNDHAM-CLU...L-TIMESHARE-/252071870397?hash=item3ab0a77fbd

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYNDHAM-CLU...L-TIMESHARE-/311433583545?hash=item4882e35bb9

 

[am1]

CWA has worked its way through retail buyers to people paying to get rid of it. With ovation this may be limited in the future with demand rising faster then supply.

 

[Bigrob]

so whats going on... nearly 4 million CWA points for sale on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-USE-41...48457-36300-/391240772732?hash=item5b17c46c7c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYNDHAM-CLU...L-TIMESHARE-/252072611942?hash=item3ab0b2d066

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLUB-WYNDHA...AL-POINTS-A-/291550793716?hash=item43e1c80ff4

http://www.ebay.com/itm/802-500-CLU...NG-TRANSFER-/151794649109?hash=item2357aa8815

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYNDHAM-CLU...L-TIMESHARE-/252071870397?hash=item3ab0a77fbd

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYNDHAM-CLU...L-TIMESHARE-/311433583545?hash=item4882e35bb9

You know why now too.

And you also know why I won't say why.

I also have a theory... that Wyndham has re-acquired a number of properties via Ovation or "name of the day" buybacks that have been pumped into CWA

at some point the number of CWA points is going to exceed the number of good ARP opportunities available to the CWA trust. More CWA points created from crappy inventory means... more crappy CWA inventory.

unless you get lucky as I did once and get a VC that combines it to your regular UDI points for reservations. (I know, probably a one-time shot).

 

[antjmar]

You know why now too.


at some point the number of CWA points is going to exceed the number of good ARP opportunities available to the CWA trust. More CWA points created from crappy inventory means... more crappy CWA inventory.

(I know, probably a one-time shot).

somebody tell me why


The sales staff is pushing the CWA as the best thing (over UDI or converted fixed weeks) so that what the "average" buyer is looking for hence the higher prices.

I agree with your statement 100% and I will add that eventually the MF for CWA will creep up due to all those high MF blue weeks they are taking back.

 

[ronparise]

somebody tell me why

Lemmings

i think its that just a few of us were competing for the larger CWA contracts, driving up the prices.. and I think we all reached our limit at the same time. we know each other and we talk. It my have been bigrobs original post in this thread that got us thinking its time to sell, or at least not to buy any more. I know that at least for me. 1.5 cents a point is my upper limit.

Its all idle speculation at this point. but I think it was a speculative bubble that burst

 

[antjmar]

That's what I figured

Lemmings

i think its that just a few of us were competing for the larger CWA contracts, driving up the prices.. and I think we all reached our limit at the same time. we know each other and we talk. It my have been bigrobs original post in this thread that got us thinking its time to sell, or at least not to buy any more. I know that at least for me. 1.5 cents a point is my upper limit.

Its all idle speculation at this point. but I think it was a speculative bubble that burst

Thanks Ron,
That's what I assumed.
Now that you guys aren't buying anymore prices will drop! Lol!

 

[ronparise]

Thanks Ron,
That's what I assumed.
Now that you guys aren't buying anymore prices will drop! Lol!

Thats my hope

 

[Ty1on]

Lemmings

i think its that just a few of us were competing for the larger CWA contracts, driving up the prices.. and I think we all reached our limit at the same time. we know each other and we talk. It my have been bigrobs original post in this thread that got us thinking its time to sell, or at least not to buy any more. I know that at least for me. 1.5 cents a point is my upper limit.

Its all idle speculation at this point. but I think it was a speculative bubble that burst

I get wanting in on the 1.6c per point trend (which was brief), but why list a BIN at 1.2c if that was the motivator?

 

[cyseitz]

Is it still a wise thing to buy?

I was going to try to pick up one of these CWA contracts on Ebay...are you suggesting to lay off or would you still buy if you can get a good price?

 

[Ty1on]

I was going to try to pick up one of these CWA contracts on Ebay...are you suggesting to lay off or would you still buy if you can get a good price?

With 4 large and 2 sizable contracts competing for bidders, I can't think of a better time to snipe.

There is at least a day between each respective bid ending time, so you have the opportunity to take a shot at each contract in turn.

 

[ronparise]

I was going to try to pick up one of these CWA contracts on Ebay...are you suggesting to lay off or would you still buy if you can get a good price?

If more CWA points fits into your personal strategy there is no reason to not buy except that prices may be lower sometime in the future. They may be higher too

It's the not knowing that bugs me and the suspicion that Im at least partially responsible for the recent run up in prices that has me backing off for now. That and I have some other significant expenses this month

 

[cyseitz]

If more CWA points fits into your personal strategy there is no reason to not buy except that prices may be lower sometime in the future. They may be higher too

I don't really have a strategy besides getting a high points contract with low MF's a decent price. It might be lower later, but I need some points. If I can get it a little over a penny a point I would be good with that.

 

[Ty1on]

I don't really have a strategy besides getting a high points contract with low MF's a decent price. It might be lower later, but I need some points. If I can get it a little over a penny a point I would be good with that.

Make a .9c offer and see if they bite.

 

[ronparise]

I don't really have a strategy besides getting a high points contract with low MF's a decent price. It might be lower later, but I need some points. If I can get it a little over a penny a point I would be good with that.

If you need the points buy them

 

[Bigrob]

Make a .9c offer and see if they bite.

They won't. That much I'm sure of.

I don't think any of these will end below 1.5C except possibly the biggest one just because it requires enough $ up front to keep many from pursuing.

 

[Bigrob]

I don't really have a strategy besides getting a high points contract with low MF's a decent price. It might be lower later, but I need some points. If I can get it a little over a penny a point I would be good with that.

CWA is not going to be your best bet MF-wise. You have no control over what gets added to the CWA pool. If a bunch of high MF low point value fixed mudweeks enter CWA, your MF rate relative to the midpoint is going higher.

CWA is not a MF play, it is an ARP play, and my theory is there may soon be too many CWA points chasing too few good ARP opportunities, depending upon what is being added to the trust.

There are still some low MF value plays to be had out there.

 

[Ty1on]

They won't. That much I'm sure of.

I don't think any of these will end below 1.5C except possibly the biggest one just because it requires enough $ up front to keep many from pursuing.

Some of them are at 1.2c BIN though...Why wouldn't anyone inclined to pay the 15c just exercise BIN and shut down the auction? 'course the seller of 3 of them (tochoa who I've never seen b4) wants 2c BIN LOL

 

[ronparise]

Some of them are at 1.2c BIN though...Why wouldn't anyone inclined to pay the 15c just exercise BIN and shut down the auction? 'course the seller of 3 of them (tochoa who I've never seen b4) wants 2c BIN LOL

I know tochoa... hes ok

2 cents is his buy it now price, but this is an auction and starting bid is a penny (less for one of his sales)

 

[cyseitz]

I ended up buying 2 of the contracts spending 1.16 cents per point. I think I did okay.

 

[Bigrob]

I ended up buying 2 of the contracts spending 1.16 cents per point. I think I did okay.

Good job. I was close on the big one, did you get it?

 

[cyseitz]

Good job. I was close on the big one, did you get it?

Yes, I took that one and the 503,000.