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Current state of retro'ing and enrollment

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What is the current state of retro'ing Vistana (and enrolling MVC) resale weeks? I have two voluntary EOY Vistana weeks (and one EOY MVC week) I purchased resale and was wondering what if anything buying direct could do for me. In particular, are retro'd Vistana weeks still eligible to be converted to Abound points or has that time passed. And can they both retro and enroll if I buy direct at a Vistana resort. TIA.
 

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They were still doing them for Vistana when I was at WSJ in December. No change to the thresholds $10K for 1 week plus $5K for each additional one. You would need to spend $15K for your 2 Vistana weeks even though they are EOY. They would be enrolled in Abound once authorized. They won’t be able to do anything for the MVC one.
 

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What is the current state of retro'ing Vistana (and enrolling MVC) resale weeks? I have two voluntary EOY Vistana weeks (and one EOY MVC week) I purchased resale and was wondering what if anything buying direct could do for me. In particular, are retro'd Vistana weeks still eligible to be converted to Abound points or has that time passed. And can they both retro and enroll if I buy direct at a Vistana resort. TIA.
Once the weeks are retro's they are fully part of VSN and Abound. Eric's response is still my understanding as well. I beleive it will require the purchase of Vistana VOIs direct. Which is likely to be Sheraton Flex, Westin Flex or Westin Aventuras. I have seen a few scattered reports of people getting Marriott weeks enrolled or buying Club Points instead. I don't think that is something they regularly do. Buying Club Points though would likely require purchasing at a much higher dollar amount (3,500 Club Points) in order to qualify unenrolled weeks.

I would find it hard to justify re-qualifying every other years weeks, but that is only something you can determine if it is worth the price.
 

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@Eric B and @dioxide45 Thank you both. I don't attend sales presentations anymore unless there is a chance I'll buy something (which once upon a time I did do to enroll a few MVC weeks).

And so I'm trying to decide if it is worth it to torture myself and the sales rep for a slim chance. Last year they were still selling weeks at WSJ and I *might* be willing to buy another EOY week at WSJ (or maybe EY fixed week) direct to retro/enroll...but I have no interest in flex points. Particularly since they're only offering 20K Bonvoy points. Ah well.
 

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I have seen a few scattered reports of people getting Marriott weeks enrolled or buying Club Points instead. I don't think that is something they regularly do. Buying Club Points though would likely require purchasing at a much higher dollar amount (3,500 Club Points) in order to qualify unenrolled weeks.
I know the sales offices at both Aruba and Spain are both well versed in selling an MVC week in order to retro Vistana (or a combo of MVC and Vistana) weeks. Not sure about in the US, but I don't think MVC "weeks" are for sale anywhere in the US in any case. I'm not sure about St. Kitts (which is the only other place I can think of that's still selling weeks).
 

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I know the sales offices at both Aruba and Spain are both well versed in selling an MVC week in order to retro Vistana (or a combo of MVC and Vistana) weeks. Not sure about in the US, but I don't think MVC "weeks" are for sale anywhere in the US in any case. I'm not sure about St. Kitts (which is the only other place I can think of that's still selling weeks).
I don't think St Kitts has a sales office anymore. Perhaps they do but I thought they were not just selling the St Kitts weeks out of Aruba now. So the Aruba office is likely to push a St Kitts week as part of the retro deal. I think the only issue with buying Marriott to retro anything (Vistana or Marriott weeks) is that it is quite a bit more expensive than retroing through Vistana with the $10K/$5K.
 

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Thanks for the great info, everyone! Does anyone know of a location in the western U.S. (preferably in Colorado) where I can purchase Vistana VOIs directly from MVC to retro some existing VOI contracts (Sheraton Flex points) that I bought on the secondary market? I'm guessing this is possible at any Marriott, Westin, or Sheraton VC resort with a sales center. We might be going to the Sheraton Steamboat Resort Villas in a couple weeks, but we've never been there before, so I don't know if they still do the sales pitch there.
 

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Thanks for the great info, everyone! Does anyone know of a location in the western U.S. (preferably in Colorado) where I can purchase Vistana VOIs directly from MVC to retro some existing VOI contracts (Sheraton Flex points) that I bought on the secondary market? I'm guessing this is possible at any Marriott, Westin, or Sheraton VC resort with a sales center. We might be going to the Sheraton Steamboat Resort Villas in a couple weeks, but we've never been there before, so I don't know if they still do the sales pitch there.
Sheraton Steamboat definitely still has a sales office. So does the Westin Riverfront in Avon. With that being said, some Sheraton and Westin properties only sell MVC Abound points now, and none of the Marriott resorts will sell Sheraton or Westin Flex VOIs. Also, Sheraton and Westin properties won't sell the other brand's VOIs, and Westin is more expensive in both retail and MFs cost, so you may want to stick to sales at a Sheraton that's not only selling Abound.
 
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