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Cost of Youth Sports

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My son is only 7 but already we have invested a lot of money in athletics for him. We have bought him expensive bikes, swim lessons, soccer and tennis lessons, skateboarding equipment and camps (lessons are virtually impossible because skateboarding teachers simply do not have their acts together), scooters, inline skates, dance class, a few tumbling lessons... And now he is very passionate about a new, expensive sport.

My original goal was to find a sport that had a lifelong fitness element to it - something he could play nearly his whole life, something accessible and easy to enjoy where ever he lived. That's why I leaned to soccer and track and dance. When he showed passion for skateboarding even that made some sense since plenty of people continue to skate as adults and it doubles as a mode of transportation. And skateboarding now has prestige it never had: it's an Olympic sport! But now he is interested in a sport that's nearly the furthest thing from accessible - it's downright expensive and inconvenient: figure skating. (BTW he's still also interested in skateboarding and dance - he likes being creative and doing tricks.)

I overheard a parent talking about how they were spending over $20,000/year on their ten-year-old's hockey. I'm not spending anywhere close to that amount (yet) on any sport but it got me thinking... If you have kids or grand kids, what are you or their parents spending on average for their sports?
 
Wow! My Son and Daughter started participating in sports also around age 7 or 8, football, soccer, volleyball, basketball, softball, baseball, etc. It was year around for both of them and continued right through when they graduated from High School. They just signed up for teams. I coached some; paid for uniforms, paid the registration fees, etc. and my wife and I hauled them to practices and games. Our major expense was driving to watch them compete and eating out after games with other parents and their kids. Other than relatively low cost basketball and volleyball camps we never paid for lessons or any expensive equipment. The experience of participating and competing helped them both develop physically, gave them a lot of positive exposure to minorities and had a beneficial impact on them physically and helped hone their competitive instincts. We didn't spend a lot of money, but what we did spend paid off in spades.

George

PS We avoided hockey because of the high costs.
 
Wow. That seems like a lot for such a young boy. It is far less expensive to participate in community or YMCA programs, than the private teams that you have to try out for. Isn't one activity per season enough?
Our kids are grown, so their past fees wouldn't apply. We did not go crazy on expenses, but they were plenty for the Little League type teams as it was. When they were on travel teams for baseball or basketball, it got to be more (hotels for tournaments, entry fees, etc). But those were fun days, and we made many good friends with the other parents. Then the kids grow up and it is over. We all have sweet memories.
Some parents were ridiculous, though. One couple kept their talented soccer son back a grade in middle school so he could have an extra year of play. He was young for his grade. The legal way they did it was to homeschool him one year, then enroll him in the same grade the following year. They spent thousands of dollars for events across the United States. Enough to pay for a college education. He earned a soccer scholarship,but had trouble with the law in college (underage drinking). Did graduate, but was not really a star on the soccer team. Now just has a regular job like those who did not play sports.
What is your end goal? The lifetime sports makes the most sense.
 
Who says he can't ice skate for life? My sister, who is in her 60's, still skates, and she's not the oldest one around. She was even still competing, in a senior division. However, ice skating is expensive, and time consuming.
 
What is your end goal? The lifetime sports makes the most sense.

I mostly just wanted to start a discussion about the costs of youth sports. I'm not asking for advice about my son.

If you saw him when he skates you'd understand. He's truly passionate about it. His face lights up and he has a great time on the ice.
With skateboarding he has the drive - he will practice and practice and practice to learn a new trick - but that joy isn't quite there. He's more guarded. It's like the ice makes him feel free. It's really amazing to see. I just can't justify pushing him away from figure skating into another sport - it would be cruel.

He didn't do well in the youth soccer league. It was very cheap and super convenient but I really don't think team sports are going to be his thing. He's far to much of an individual and he simply must be creative. We may try again with soccer or another team sport later but for now we're sticking with figure skating.
 
The thing is, the end goal somewhat dictates what one is going to spend. If you want your kid to get an athletic scholarship to a decent sized school, unless he's unusually athletic, you'll likely kick out quite a bit in clubs, camps and private instruction.

I have 3 kids in sports. Determining whether their given sports are means or an end is the biggest struggle, because the parents motivation might not align with the child's.

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concur with Elan. here is my take:
I spent under $1K for equipt/sports fees per kid per year. None had special talents. DD played rec league soccer, probably could have done travel, but was not an amazing player--just all around good at sports. Rec league served her well. But, the downside is that in our area, middle and high school don't really consider you unless you are on a travel team--what about poor kids who cannot afford $2K a year???
For DS, we exposed him to tball, soccer, baseball, football starting at 5 yrs old--1 sport in fall, 1 in spring. He liked soccer and played rec league until he hit HS and decided it was not for him anymore.
If I had a kid who loved and excelled at hockey/swimming, etc., I would support them. We have an ice rink near us. For lessons, etc. for a good skater, I could see $5K easily at the preteen level. Skateboarding/surfing and snowboarding all use the same skills. I could see someone who liked skating to also like skateboarding.
 
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I hope my sons make an Olympic or pro team or earn scholarship or at least have fun and lean some life skills. We will have to wait and see.

We give them opportunity to try everything. But the other team sports in the area are soccer and baseball.
 
A few more comments:

1) Very few kids parlay youth sports into anything "tangible" -- meaning Olympics or college scholarships. That's fine, because sports, especially team sports, teach kids lots of life lessons. So, it's up to the parent to place an appropriate value on those lessons -- because that might be all that comes from their participation and your investment.

2) Kids change. Junior might be passionate about lacrosse at age 8, but after all of his his friends start getting into Jr High football at age 12, he might not give two hoots about lacrosse. So how much does one want to invest in lacrosse camps and clinics at an early age? Again, depending on resources and other factors, there's no one answer. Also, and I've seen this with two of my kids, they might be way ahead of everyone else in a sport at an early age and fall back to the pack as they get older. No amount of investment in your kids will get them to dunk if they're 5'8" as adults, or make them run as fast as Johnny, whose dad ran a 4.5s 40 in college.

3) Having said both of the above, and the reason this process has been such a struggle for me personally, is that if one's kid is truly destined to make his/her mark in a sport, it's become almost imperative that parents do everything they can to support them, because all of the other parents are. Almost every girl on my daughter's Jr High VB team is also on a club team -- meaning they play most of the year. Many have taken private instruction and/or joined athletic performance clubs. And we're not talking about getting ahead of others, simply keeping up. Sadly, it's just the way youth sports are these days.
 
The family who spent so much on hockey spent most of it on travel. That's actually what made me think of TUG for this topic.

Nothing my kiddo has expressed interest in so far has any scholarship opportunities. Barely any universities even have figure skating clubs and rinks for practice and none have scholarships. Olympics is a bit crazy to even think about at this stage - he does have obvious talent and this is his passion but a goal like that shouldn't be put on a little kid's head IMO. Same goes for skateboarding and dance: no scholarship opportunities. (His PE teacher marked him as a favorite for track so we might see that happening in the future.) That said, one of the very nice things about figure skating for boys is that it's not highly competitive until they are teens. There just aren't enough boys in the sport yet to make it very competitive. For kids like my son who are more interested in just being creative and having fun, that's a good thing.

Anyway, my goal is to keep him physically fit and active and let him follow his passion. Athletic kids can and do change sports fairly easily; many of the skills are transferable. But if the fitness isn't there then they can't keep up, don't have a shot. My main goal is to develop a fitness fire in him so he stays healthy and interested in doing active things his whole life.
 
My experience with 3 girls (one gifted athlete, one non athletic, one in the middle) was that every dime we spent on youth sports was probably wasted. The gifted one didn't discover her passion until adulthood and that's climbing. Average athlete found Ultimate in college and that was her passion (maybe soccer helped a bit there), and my non-athlete did do and still does swimming for exercise but hated the racing part of it (but loved practices, lol). The years of soccer/lacrosse/basketball/swimming/ice skating were probably not as meaningful as I thought they would be. I prefer not to quantify the total cost because it probably would have gone a long way towards college tuition.

Btw, the best experience for my girls was marching band. We were lucky to live in an area that prizes performing arts so about 10% of the high school participated in band. They learned a lot more than music, lots of life skills and leadership skills. Worth every penny! Sports were fine but band was awesome.
 
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The club travel thing is amusing in itself. A friend of mine had one of his kids in a soccer club. They drove to a tournament a couple hundred miles away. Turns out 3 of the 4 matches they played were against teams local to our valley -- all within a 10mi radius.
 
this-Almost every girl on my daughter's Jr High VB team is also on a club team -- meaning they play most of the year. Many have taken private instruction and/or joined athletic performance clubs. And we're not talking about getting ahead of others, simply keeping up. Sadly, it's just the way youth sports are these days.
then add the self esteem issues of not even making the 1st cut (even in middle school) for someone who is pretty good at sports--but the coaches are only interested in Club players--this gets debated/stressed out by parents in affluent neighborhoods all over.
DH thinks it's ridiculous. In his day, if you were good, thru club, rec, or your own hard work, you made the team--not so now.
 
As the executive director of a (bowling) organization that awards over $70k in scholarships annually . . . not only to youth bowlers who are highly skilled, but also to those for participating in local leagues and tournaments. Bowling is a great life-long sport that kids can do . . . and can even participate with parents/adults in leagues (adult-youth leagues). It's a very reasonably priced activity/sport as well. Check out this info on our website.

If you need help finding a good program near you, feel free to contact me!
 
I should also say, I have worked over 10 years in youth soccer as well . . . at the local club & facility level as well as at the state association level. Serving as an advisor and consultant to other state associations in youth soccer, I have a pretty good understanding of their programs, services and expenses.

Hands down . . . bowling is a very under appreciated sport!
 
I'm old now but loved the way I grew up and the sports I played. I played baseball,football,basketball,track&afield,soccer,wrestled,swam,and Rae Keon do. In grammar school I played the major sports, in junior high it was football,wrestling,track and baseball. Summer's were baseball and swimming. In high school it was 4 years of football,wrestling,baseball and summer again was baseball and swimming. Junior college was soccer and started my take kwon do training.
College was baseball and take kwon do.
Married life was coaching hockey,baseball and teaching take kwon do. I like to think of myself as a well rounded athlete. Always at the top in all sports played and played with and against many top athletes as I grew up in the sports capital of the world at the time with many Olympic swimmers,pro baseball/football players,world class wrestlers, famous take kwon do athletes.
Back then it was not expensive,not individualized and most things were done to make you a well rounded person and athlete. Santa Clara, California was the greatest place for any person interested in sports to grow up.
 
I had a friend (male) in high school who had been a figure skater as a younger child. He had the most lucrative part time job in my peer group, as a club hired him to practice doubles moves with their female skaters, of which there were more than male skaters. He enjoyed it, knew lots of girls, and had more spending money than anyone else.
 
I have 3 kids. The boys are now 18 and 20. Oldest one never liked any sports with a team. We put him in sports till grade 8. Curling, soccer, skating and swimming and biking. Swimming he enjoyed and took up to his life guarding. Biking was only cost of his bike which was great for a May birthday. 18 yr old did most high school sports and did Bantum curling. Swimming to life guarding as well. Worked at the pool 1.5 years and made back every cent we paid on lessons. Price for their sports under 1200 a year. Well......along comes number 3 who begged to try out for competitive gymnastics. Age 9 let her try out. Costs us about $3600 a year including travel. We travel frugally and shop at grocery stores. There isn't the expense of eating out that our hockey friends have. Gymnastics seems to be different. Our daughter is 11. First two yrs was under $2000.00. We also do swim lessons. About $200 a year. As a family we snow shoe. Pretty much free after equipment. (Same snow shoes 7 yrs). We have 6 months winter. I consider it part of the cost of raising kids.
 
My experience with 3 girls (one gifted athlete, one non athletic, one in the middle) was that every dime we spent on youth sports was probably wasted. The gifted one didn't discover her passion until adulthood and that's climbing. Average athlete found Ultimate in college and that was her passion (maybe soccer helped a bit there), and my non-athlete did do and still does swimming for exercise but hated the racing part of it (but loved practices, lol). The years of soccer/lacrosse/basketball/swimming/ice skating were probably not as meaningful as I thought they would be. I prefer not to quantify the total cost because it probably would have gone a long way towards college tuition.
Sounds like they all found a joy in healthy physical fitness. Perhaps that could have been found more cheaply and the money could have gone to college. But then again, maybe not. I doubt the kids feel the money was poorly spent.

Personally, I feel like money spent on swimming is never wasted, but then I swam on my high school team and have fond memories. To me, though, it's just so sad to see people who don't swim well, seeing their discomfort at pools and beaches. Or having to worry about them because they don't understand how little they know and how much danger they put themselves in. Basic swim lessons are often very reasonable as well as team dues. It's not, in my experience, an expensive sport.

this-Almost every girl on my daughter's Jr High VB team is also on a club team -- meaning they play most of the year. Many have taken private instruction and/or joined athletic performance clubs. And we're not talking about getting ahead of others, simply keeping up. Sadly, it's just the way youth sports are these days.
then add the self esteem issues of not even making the 1st cut (even in middle school) for someone who is pretty good at sports--but the coaches are only interested in Club players--this gets debated/stressed out by parents in affluent neighborhoods all over.
DH thinks it's ridiculous. In his day, if you were good, thru club, rec, or your own hard work, you made the team--not so now.

I do feel like some things have changed dramatically. We had our son in soccer for a few years and saw firsthand how toxic the environment is. It's sooo competitive at a very young age. Our son's little co-ed team had a few very enthusiastic kids on it. They would do great in practice and try hard in matches. But the parents of our competitors' teams were horrible. They made the sport so UNfun for these little 4 and 5 year olds by arguing the rules, shouting at the kids during the match, crowding our team off field during warm ups, etc. It was nuts.

My husband pointed out the other day that the American approach to youth soccer is very messed up. He said, soccer is one of the most popular American youth sports. And it has been that way for many years now. So how come we still don't have excellent American soccer players? We should be smashing the international matches - we have a huge pool or players, tons of resources, and it's popular so what's the problem? It's likely our approach. We pay people who are experts in soccer to coach kids, but few have any training or understanding of child psychology. And their approach to the game sucks the fun out of it. Kids don't enjoy it and burn out by high school. In many other countries the sport is also popular but kids play it with friends uncoached at the park or in the street. It's just for fun! It's not a huge industry until the kids get older and more serious.

Some interesting links about youth sports:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/107/6/1459

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-moment-youth/201201/the-psychology-youth-sports



I had a friend (male) in high school who had been a figure skater as a younger child. He had the most lucrative part time job in my peer group, as a club hired him to practice doubles moves with their female skaters, of which there were more than male skaters. He enjoyed it, knew lots of girls, and had more spending money than anyone else.

Good to know! I hadn't thought of that kind of outcome for my son so it's nice to hear positive stories.

I have 3 kids. The boys are now 18 and 20. Oldest one never liked any sports with a team. We put him in sports till grade 8. Curling, soccer, skating and swimming and biking. Swimming he enjoyed and took up to his life guarding. Biking was only cost of his bike which was great for a May birthday. 18 yr old did most high school sports and did Bantum curling. Swimming to life guarding as well. Worked at the pool 1.5 years and made back every cent we paid on lessons. Price for their sports under 1200 a year. Well......along comes number 3 who begged to try out for competitive gymnastics. Age 9 let her try out. Costs us about $3600 a year including travel. We travel frugally and shop at grocery stores. There isn't the expense of eating out that our hockey friends have. Gymnastics seems to be different. Our daughter is 11. First two yrs was under $2000.00. We also do swim lessons. About $200 a year. As a family we snow shoe. Pretty much free after equipment. (Same snow shoes 7 yrs). We have 6 months winter. I consider it part of the cost of raising kids.

Yes, certain sports like gymnastics can be quite expensive when compared to some other sports like swimming. There are simply fewer options - I know where I live there's essentially only one well-regarded gym although there are lots of smaller places that teach gymnastics this one place is the biggest and best and has the best track record. With swimming however, there are multiple teams here and there are pools everywhere. I feel like track has to be pretty inexpensive too - you can run virtually anywhere and the cost is mostly just shoes.

I have found that figure skating is both expensive and inconvenient. But in some ways it's really great. For instance, it's pretty schedule-able in a way that many other sports aren't. We won't have to compete until he wants to and we don't have to travel to compete until he's very good. And those competitions will probably only be once or twice a year for many years. Most of his training will be scheduled with his coach so it's really just about how much time and money we want to spend - there's no min or max. And his coach does coaching via Skype as well, so that adds flexibility.

I agree that some investment in sport/fitness is just 'part of the cost of raising kids.'
 
My 11 year-old started riding horses weekly at age 3 as part of her physical therapy for low muscle tone. That floppy little toddler at the therapy barn is now a really talented 11 year-old horseback rider! She rides at a "regular" barn now and she is in lessons twice a week. I don't want to tally up what we spend, and we're on the way low end of what people spend on this sport. It's not something I ever would have even though of as a sport for my kids...it just sort of happened. Honestly my main goal is that, starting when she turns 13, she will be a volunteer at the therapy barn where it all started. They are hoping she will become their "exercise rider". Worth every penny we've spent.
 
My 9 year old son plays baseball in the Spring, soccer in the Fall, and swims in the Winter.

He does them all for fun, and when he doesn't enjoy them anymore, he can stop.

The number of parents that think their child will become a professional athlete if they just get into the right leagues is delusional.
 
I don't think most of us even remotely think about our kids becoming professional athletes when we supported their participation in sports. In our case we saw the benefits of them improving their athleticism, learning teamwork and preparing them for the competitive environment they will face later in life. Another benefit in our case because of where we lived was exposure and friendship with a large number of blacks and hispanics.

George
 
Ice skating definitely expensive, but, it sounds like you encourage him to try everything, so let him, if you can get the finances to work. A girl I grew up with was a figure skater. There were very few of us with sports outside of school and we generally missed more school than others, but with good grades that was fine, but they shut the door right after I left - no longer could your morning practice in a non-school sport be an excuse for being late and travel to away competition no longer ok to take off part of Friday. Beth ended up being very good, her mother went with her to training many states away. Her growth spurt and injuries caused her to end the sport, sadly. But her passion for the sport took her a long way. I was a competitive swimmer for 16 years, which not only made me extremely disciplined but caused me to never again want to get up at 4 am for anything. My brother just ended his lifelong career as a professional swim coach, which took him around the world.

One never quite knows where something will lead, but each step on any given path brings a person closer to knowing what they want from life and how to go about getting it.

I do think parents are rather gouged at this point, so consider cost vs benefit. Good luck to you and your son! I had also thought "skating probably needs more men" as referenced above. Any activity can lead to teen jobs and after, and potentially that work can bring savings on that sport. Employee discount on new skates, for example. Probably a reach, but as a lifeguard I did get discounts on suits that I wore for the job and ones I wore for competition (more expensive and probably crazy expensive now for "technical suits"). Perhaps as a youth he gains a sponsor and has much equipment comped? Skating requires costumes - if you don't sew, you might find an accomplished seamstress in your area. I have taken up ballroom dancing and find my sewing skills are very helpful in keeping costs down. Shoes are cheap, dresses aren't.
 
My 9 year old son plays baseball in the Spring, soccer in the Fall, and swims in the Winter.

He does them all for fun, and when he doesn't enjoy them anymore, he can stop.

The number of parents that think their child will become a professional athlete if they just get into the right leagues is delusional.

I don't think most of us even remotely think about our kids becoming professional athletes when we supported their participation in sports. In our case we saw the benefits of them improving their athleticism, learning teamwork and preparing them for the competitive environment they will face later in life. Another benefit in our case because of where we lived was exposure and friendship with a large number of blacks and hispanics.

George

For a lot of club sports, the club's existence is predicated on luring parents into thinking their kid has a chance to be the next Alex Morgan, or Aly Raisman or, at a minimum, get an athletic scholarship. Parents eat that stuff up. That, and there are ample parents with enough disposable income that shelling out $2-5K per year, per child, is insignificant, regardless of outcome.

Even if ones kids are just into sports for fun, playing primarily on school teams and/or rec leagues, those teams are often comprised of kids who are also doing club in the off season. That's what I was referring to in my earlier post -- for many sports (not all) there really isn't a relaxed level of commitment if you want your kid to have a fighting chance of getting playing time on a team -- not be a star, just see the floor/court/field. Many of the kids are going to camps, clinics, clubs, etc and they're available year-round.

It's all a lot different than when most of us were kids. The bar has been raised significantly. A good comparison/analogy would be the difference in having a college degree 40-50 years ago compared to today. Back then a degree put one ahead. Today, you're behind the curve without one.
 
Our son, now late 20's was a promising skier in his mid teens with some success regionally. He was invited to the next step up which would have meant a $15-20,000 commitment annually (with no tax deduction) mostly involving travel, and it would have really strained us. Around the same time he made an elite soccer team and had to make a choice. We are sure glad he chose a center back role on the team. Aside from two pair of cleats and shin pads, the only expense was weekend motels and gas. He still plays recreationally today, and skiing/boarding has clearly taken a back seat, but like riding a bike you never forget. In skiing like other individual sports, the pyramid gets narrow very quickly, and all your ski buddies are competitors. His best buds today all have a soccer connection, and I think he's better for it. Youth sports activity at elite levels can be prohibitive.
 
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