Corporate Consulting Associates in Wyoming question

[abb]

We paid this company $$$$ to get out of Bluegreen timeshare in September after we received a letter from them. Are they legit?

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

If you pay anyone an upfront fee to get out of your timeshare then you've been scammed. Sad but true.

How much did they steal from you?





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[tschwa2]

We paid this company $$$$ to get out of Bluegreen timeshare in September after we received a letter from them. Are they legit?

I hate to say this but how would paying them get you out of it. Did your contract have a clause that you could cancel if you went through Corporate Consulting Associates? They are going to take your money. They may have someone write a letter to Bluegreen demanding that you be released and Bluegreen will likely say no.

 

[TUGBrian]

unfortunately you are learning the hard way why our golden rule is to avoid any company that asks you to pay a large upfront fee.

 

[DeniseM]

You've been scammed - file a dispute with your credit card company.

 

[RX8]

This company was discussed back in November 2022. They were then, and still are now, a scam. Their business is founded on lies and scare tactics as are all exit companies. They are very good at what they do and can claim many victims. Your best options are to file a complaint with the BBB (they will create a profile for the business) and the Attorney General.

Here is the post from November.

Corporate Consulting Associates

Has anybody heard of or had experience with Corporate Consulting Associates out of Cheyenne, WY? Recent visit from rep claims they can cancel my annual fees through the settlement between Bluegreen and Bass Pro Shops. Of course, they want a fee upfront, always a bad sign.

tugbbs.com

Unfortunately, a little late for the OP but if someone reading this thread is still thinking of doing business with an exit company I am posting this.

Are you thinking of using an exit company?

Don't do it! New exit companies keep popping up all the time. There is no regulation so anyone, even criminals, can call themselves an exit company and begin soliciting for money. They all start off the same - glitzy website, no complaints on the web, big promises, some companies with glowing...

tugbbs.com

Edited: Just wanted to add that their address is located in Cheyenne, WY. Cheyenne is notorious for being the site of companies using this city for filing purposes only. Their listed address of 1712 Pioneer Ave is just a 3300 sq foot building yet there are multiples of companies using this address as their own (with many suite numbers). Odds are very likely that this is just a Mail Drop location and no one has any idea where they are really operating from. Further evidence that they may not be at that address is that their listed phone number is a cell phone.

 

[abb]

If you pay anyone an upfront fee to get out of your timeshare then you've been scammed. Sad but true.

How much did they steal from you?





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$7900

 

[dioxide45]

You've been scammed - file a dispute with your credit card company.

I certainly insist that they try this, but to level set, it probably won't work. From some other reports here, the credit card companies tend to side with these scammers when they produce a contract. This would all hinge on them paying by credit card instead of personal check.

 

[davidvel]

$7900

Please help others not get scammed and give as many details as you can. Would love to see any agreements they signed.

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

We paid this company $$$$ to get out of Bluegreen timeshare in September after we received a letter from them. Are they legit?

A $7,900 loss is VERY painful.

With that said try this: If they sent you a letter via the US Mail then you "may" have grounds to contact the US Postal Inspection Service (USPIS) on the grounds that may be considered MAIL FRAUD. I say this as they used the mail to bait you in light of the fact that you used electronics to actually pay them.

Definitely worth pursuing. Mail Fraud is a FEDERAL OFFENSE and the penalties are more serious and easier to obtain than State prosecution.

The US Postal Inspection Service has a successful prosecution rate of the high 90's percentage.

It's time to shut down these thieves permanently and fit their wrists with metal bracelets......





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[RX8]

So sorry you didn’t find TUG until after you paid them.

Here is how it is going to play out with any exit company. These exit companies have no magic potions to cancel an agreement. The scammers pocket the thousands of dollars upfront and then try to figure out what, if anything, they can do with the timeshare. Their #1 hope, the easiest route, is to do a deed back to the HOA using a deed back program that is already available to owners at a much, much lower cost than what they collect, keeping the difference as a nice profit. Unfortunately, there are many HOAs that do not have deed back programs. Some exit companies may try to give the timeshare away, again keeping the thousands of dollars as profit. Some exit companies don’t even try to give it away at all. They move right to the next step which is to stall for months, even years. This is especially true if the timeshare has a mortgage. Once past the credit card dispute period some exit companies just stop responding at all. Eventually, the HOA will foreclose. If that ends up happening to you the company will deny your refund because they will argue that they got you out of the timeshare. All those glowing reviews are from unsuspecting owners who paid thousands of dollars for the exit company to simply utilize an existing deed back program or to give away the timeshare, things owners can do themselves for thousands of dollars less. The exit companies don’t want the owners to know their real options because if they all knew they wouldn’t be successful in collecting the upfront fees.

I am 100% certain that if you had offered your timeshare for free plus a $2500 gift card at closing you would have had a line of people wanting the timeshare. You would have saved $5000 too. You might have even been able to start with, say just a $1000 gift card, and been able to give it away at that.

Along with contacting the BBB and AG, @TheTimeTraveler has an excellent suggestion above about contacting the US Postal Inspection Service. Wish you luck!

 

[abb]

Please help others not get scammed and give as many details as you can. Would love to see any agreements they signed.

I will but right now II am so stressed out over this I can't function. I promise to get back with you. Thank you

 

[abb]

A $7,900 loss is VERY painful.

With that said try this: If they sent you a letter via the US Mail then you "may" have grounds to contact the US Postal Inspection Service (USPIS) on the grounds that may be considered MAIL FRAUD. I say this as they used the mail to bait you in light of the fact that you used electronics to actually pay them.

Definitely worth pursuing. Mail Fraud is a FEDERAL OFFENSE and the penalties are more serious and easier to obtain than State prosecution.

The US Postal Inspection Service has a successful prosecution rate of the high 90's percentage.

It's time to shut down these thieves permanently and fit their wrists with metal bracelets......





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We are just stupid, it was a text letter....I can't believe I fell for it.

 

[Passepartout]

OUCH!

 

[TUGBrian]

arent stupid, people fall for this every single day. the scam wouldnt exist if it werent very effective!

cannot stress enough to report this to your state AG's office, as well as the state they do business in or are located in etc! the only realistic chance of seeing any justice done here (or perhaps obtain a refund) is if enough folks report the scam and it catches the eye of an attorney generals office!

 

[billymach4]

We are just stupid, it was a text letter....I can't believe I fell for it.

@abb
Please don't feel stupid or ashamed. We all share in your stress.

Please take a deep breath. Do your diligence to try and get your money back via the suggestions already mentioned.

Please do share with us the details of this experience. Only with our shared knowledge of tactics and methods will we try to prevent this from occurring again to others in the future.

 

[LannyPC]

We paid this company $$$$ to get out of Bluegreen timeshare in September after we received a letter from them. Are they legit?

It's possible that, as RX8 suggested in post # 11, this company is going to use what I call the unwitting foreclosure. It tells you to do nothing then lets the resort or HOA foreclose on you because of lack of paying MFs. If that is the case, be prepared for calls and letters coming from the resort asking why you haven't paid. You might have to explain the situation.

 

[abb]

We signed the service agreement on September

@abb
Please don't feel stupid or ashamed. We all share in your stress.

Please take a deep breath. Do your diligence to try and get your money back via the suggestions already mentioned.

Please do share with us the details of this experience. Only with our shared knowledge of tactics and methods will we try to prevent this from occurring again to others in the future.

okay, We signed the service agreement on 9/28/23 which it also said it was a limited POA. It doesn't look like an official LPOA form to me though. As of 10/20/23, We have not returned the assigned attorney's phone call and haven't sent them. any of the requested paperwork.
I did however, send CCA some paperwork. We are in MO . Since we haven't sent the Atty anything I was wondering if anyone knows if we can just walk away and dispute it with the credit card company. We know they may not refund it but we also feel this is a scam and we lost
the money anyway. I just don't want to get in more trouble and now we can't afford to pay anyone to help us get out of this mess. We are 68 and 70 and my husband is a 100% service connected disabled vet. The credit card company said we have to show good faith in trying to get it back from CCA first and then them after that. What a mess! It took awhile for it all to sink in and the shock of it all, it's just horrible. Any advice is appreciated and thank you all for your responses

 

[abb]

Can anyone offer any advice about my last post from today under corporate consulting out of Wyoming? anything is appreciated. I'm not sure if I am using this forum correctly and that's why I am posting here. Thanks to all as this site is very informative and interesting!

 

[DeniseM]

I merged your two threads - starting a new thread to try to get answers that you like better will not change the facts.

 

[abb]

I merged your two threads - starting a new thread to try to get answers that you like better will not change the facts.

I'm not trying to change threads to get answers that I like , I just need reply's on people's experiences, opinions, etc. and am not sure how to use this site. Sorry if I offended you. Thank you for merging the two as I said I'm trying to figure out how to post . Thanks again for helping!

 

[DeniseM]

abb - There are already approx.15 replies in this thread (above.) They all agree that you have been scammed.

Starting a new thread is not offensive, but it is futile.

 

[RX8]

We signed the service agreement on September

okay, We signed the service agreement on 9/28/23 which it also said it was a limited POA. It doesn't look like an official LPOA form to me though. As of 10/20/23, We have not returned the assigned attorney's phone call and haven't sent them. any of the requested paperwork.
I did however, send CCA some paperwork. We are in MO . Since we haven't sent the Atty anything I was wondering if anyone knows if we can just walk away and dispute it with the credit card company. We know they may not refund it but we also feel this is a scam and we lost
the money anyway. I just don't want to get in more trouble and now we can't afford to pay anyone to help us get out of this mess. We are 68 and 70 and my husband is a 100% service connected disabled vet. The credit card company said we have to show good faith in trying to get it back from CCA first and then them after that. What a mess! It took awhile for it all to sink in and the shock of it all, it's just horrible. Any advice is appreciated and thank you all for your responses

What exactly does the contract outline? Did you have a rescission period? What does the contract state that they are going to do for you and under what timeframe?

Unfortunately, I believe your $7,900 is lost. The exit companies put all their effort into obtaining upfront fees. They have no incentive to refund it. I also believe that they aren’t going to do anything special to get you out of your timeshare, that is unless your timeshare has a deed back program.

You technically haven’t been scammed yet. You signed a contract and depending on what that contract states they have to be given a chance to perform under the contract. Most exit companies include clauses that they have 18 months or more to perform. That doesn’t mean they are actually going to do anything regarding your timeshare but I wanted to point that out because that may result in your credit card company denying the chargeback.

Curious, you said you signed up after you received a “text letter” from this company. Was it an unsolicited text you received? I believe that those random text messages are scams in even greater percentages than even are cold calls.

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

@RX8 offers good advice.

I might also add, immediately contact the Atty General's Office in your home state, and the state in which these scammers are located and get this illegal activity "on record".

I am not sure it will do any good EXCEPT if they ever shut these scammers down they may find some assets in which they can distribute to victims like yourself. Don't count on it, but it can only potentially help.

Best of luck.





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[dioxide45]

We signed the service agreement on September

okay, We signed the service agreement on 9/28/23 which it also said it was a limited POA. It doesn't look like an official LPOA form to me though. As of 10/20/23, We have not returned the assigned attorney's phone call and haven't sent them. any of the requested paperwork.
I did however, send CCA some paperwork. We are in MO . Since we haven't sent the Atty anything I was wondering if anyone knows if we can just walk away and dispute it with the credit card company. We know they may not refund it but we also feel this is a scam and we lost
the money anyway. I just don't want to get in more trouble and now we can't afford to pay anyone to help us get out of this mess. We are 68 and 70 and my husband is a 100% service connected disabled vet. The credit card company said we have to show good faith in trying to get it back from CCA first and then them after that. What a mess! It took awhile for it all to sink in and the shock of it all, it's just horrible. Any advice is appreciated and thank you all for your responses

Have you formally asked them for a refund? If you do and they don't comply, you could try the route of disputing the charge with your credit card company. However, they do have the signed agreement which they will use to dispute the charge. That said, don't let that stop you from disputing the charge.

You will be hard pressed to find others with direct experience to answer your questions. Someone may do a Google search a year from now that turns up this thread and they then come in and comment. We often see old threads like these get dug up years after the last post due to this very reason. You might also do well to post in r/scams on Reddit. However, many people won't come back after they have been scammed and are long past it. People who may have somehow successfully got their money back won't have reason to seek out these types of topics because all is good with their results.