Confirmed New Resorts - where and when they will open?

[Cobra1950]

Dave,
Thanks for the input. The Ritz model of fractional ownership just does not fit my needs as well as the normal Marriott VC timeshare, maybe they will tear down Streamside there and rebuild?

 

[californiagirl]

Does anyone have any updates on the Cancun Property? From Dave's map, the location looks outstanding.

 

[Dave M]

I have no further info that suggests that sales will start other than sometime in the first half of next year. Normally, Marriott doesn't release a lot of details about a new resort until shortly before sales start.

 

[welshhope]

There is also a 2nd phase at Phuket opening very soon we had an invite to go. It was very tempting as it is paradise on earth. - Well I like it.....

"As an existing valued member at Marriott Phuket Beach Club we would like to invite you and your family to visit Marriott’s Mai Khao Beach Club during its soft opening from May 24 th 2008 through to August 31 st 2008 in order to introduce the benefits of membership at Marriott Vacation Club Asia Pacific.

 

[californiagirl]

Thanks Dave and Welshhope for your responses.

I called MVCI direct sales today to ask about the Cancun and new Thailand properties. The woman I spoke to had little info (less than Dave) about Cancun and no info about Thailand. She said that she could not sell the Thailand property and furthermore the Thailand property is prohibited from initiating solicitation to people residing in the U.S. I can request info and then they can offer the product to me, but I have to make the gesture of interest first. Seems strange. I requested the info. She also put me on the list for pre-sale info for Cancun.

I will pass along any information I receive.

 

[CMF]

The sales rep at SurfWatch told us that Marriott is building a timeshare in Dubai.

Charles

 

[Dave M]

She said that she could not sell the Thailand property and furthermore the Thailand property is prohibited from initiating solicitation to people residing in the U.S. I can request info and then they can offer the product to me, but I have to make the gesture of interest first. Seems strange.

Not too strange. As originally announced, U.S. residents were to be prohibited from participating in the Marriott Asian timeshare offerings. That program and MVCI are separate programs.

Thus, I would suggest you stay clear of buying at this resort unless and until you can see written guarantees that your ownership won't be an orphan as it relates to the U.S.-based Marriott timeshare program. The risks are far too many to list, but would certainly include whether you can exchange through II, whether the Marriott exchange priority applies and whether the ownership benefits and privileges are the same as for the U.S. program. And I have no idea about whether there would be a reasonable resale market for timeshares in the Asian program.

 

[skidoc]

We are heading down to Ocean Pointe in a couple of weeks to attend a sales presentation for Oceana Palms. Has construction started on that site yet?

 

[oldman]

The third building at Ko'Olina is scheduled to open (half of it, anyway) in January 2009. (Info as of last month)

The Ocean Pointe II is Oceana Palms at Singer Island and, according to the OP staff last December, it will not be part of Ocean Pointe.

 

[thinze3]

South Padre gets my vote!

I DO NOT think Marriott needs another Orlando as recently announced. Cancun will be nice, however.

I personally would love to see Marriott build something in South Padre Isalnd, TX. There is heavy demand for both summer and winter seasons down there. Winter Texans flock to the place each year from October through March. The average high during the winter is still 70+ degrees.


Terry

 

[Zac495]

While in Marbella, a saleswoman told me that a new one is opening in Orlando and it will be pre-sale for 2 weeks - in about 2 weeks. She said all owners will get an email. Of course she said grab it. Something about it being like the Ritz...

Oh - and something about not mentioning it on TUG. :hysterical:

 

[thinze3]

MVCI Cancun

It appears that this is the Architectural Group for the MVCI Cancun project. They have several projects online, including Frenchman's Cove. It will be interesting to watch this website and see if a Cancun conceptual drawing is posted anytime soon.


Terry

 

[Steel5Rings]

I DO NOT think Marriott needs another Orlando as recently announced. Cancun will be nice, however.

I personally would love to see Marriott build something in South Padre Isalnd, TX. There is heavy demand for both summer and winter seasons down there. Winter Texans flock to the place each year from October through March. The average high during the winter is still 70+ degrees.


Terry

Man, I don't understand why folks on this board are constantly knocking Orlando.

I get awesome trades with my Grande Vista. Just land Frenchman's Cove for spring 2009 with my GV week.

So much for the prevailing argument on this board about Orlando being over run with Timeshares....apparently there is enough demand even with the "overpopulation of resorts" cited on this board, that Marriott thinks they can make money opening another resort.....clearly the demand exists even if their are already a number of resorts online.... Marriott is willing to shell out several hundred million on the project.

 

[thinze3]

Steel5Rings

I am sorry if you felt that I was "knocking" Orlando, because I wasn't. I personally do not want Marriott to build another Orlando resort simply because I would rather have a different location to be able to trade into. I can trade into Orlando or buy a Getaway there anytime (do to the sheer number of units available). I am being selfish, but a new Orlando resort will not help me at all.

As for MGV, if you have read my posts in the past, you will find that I am one of the few who actually recommends MGV as one of the best values in the Marriott system. I know it trades well and have posted that statement many times.


Terry

 

[kjd]

Orlando timeshares and the Marriott brand

People often make the mistake of confusing the saturation of TS in an area with the Marriott system. It therefore follows that places like Orlando, Las Vegas, Branson and Hilton Head are so saturated with TS that they are not worth purchasing. It also astounds these same people how and why these same TS locations trade so well within II.

The answer is simple. It's the Marriott brand. There are about 400,000 members of MVCI. Most MVCI members are dedicated to trading within the Marriott family of TS. Therefore, there are slim pickins for folks outside of the MVCI when trying to trade into a Marriott. They usually get the leftovers. At the same time, a lot of non-Marriott properties are vacant in these same high demand areas.

While some folks are interested in keeping their annual maintanence fees low, all you have to do is look at MVL to see the self-defeating wisdom of that idea. It is possible for non-Marriott TS owners with a lower MF to trade into a Marriott TS resort. However, that only adds to the popularity of the Marriott brand as other non-Marriott TS in the same locale lie vacant. When you own Marriott, you simply trade better.

 

[californiagirl]

Thank you Dave for filling in the gaps. (You are a wealth of knowledge!) Actually I was curious more than ready to buy in Thailand. I have never been there and am planning a trip in the fall of '09. I would like to trade into the Marriott property. As I have tried to research the property, other than here and the Marriott Hotel website, I found there was very little info on the new development. None on MVCI. This made me even more curious. Your explanation clarifies that.

Cancun... now that is another story. I may be interested in a purchase there.

 

[jcjl1]

Is building 3 at Ko Olina open yet?

Half will open in January. Just back from Ko Olina. It will be bigger when both halves are cmplete than existing two buildings!