Combining resale points?

[cporcellijr]

Has anyone had trouble combining points they bought separately resale? We are looking to buy at 2 locations so we can have ARP at both, but the Wyndham representative I spoke with said it is usually not possible. Thoughts or experiences would be great.

 

[siesta]

Whats not possible is combining the points from two diff contracts with different locations and booking during ARP, unless they are both myrtle beach properties.

But you can combine the points for anything 10 months out (standard res. period)

 

[vacationhopeful]

Has anyone had trouble combining points they bought separately resale? We are looking to buy at 2 locations so we can have ARP at both, but the Wyndham representative I spoke with said it is usually not possible. Thoughts or experiences would be great.

If "your representative" was in the sales department, his lips were moving is our standard answer. He was creating panic and parnoid ... seems he was happy with your doubt. He was full of hotair ... and other smelly stuff.

Now the REAL TRUTH is:
ARP is based on all UDI points contracts with the same USE year DEEDED to that resort ...(except Myrtle Beach Wyndhams have a regional ARP).

Converted Fixed Weeks have ARP for only the original underlying fixed week or season (if that is a floating converted fixed week).

Contracts with different USE years can not be combined for ARP, but can be combined for points reservation inside the standard booking window.


IF NONE of this made any sense to you, start reading and learning more before buying any Wyndham product. Knowledge is absolutely neccessary in Wyndham-land.

 

[hjtug]

If you purchase two deeds; resale, developer or both; Wyndham will automatically put them into one account as long as they are titled in the same name or names.

 

[learnalot]

If you purchase two deeds; resale, developer or both; Wyndham will automatically put them into one account as long as they are titled in the same name or names.

It is true they will be in the same account and points can be combined for all standard reservations from 10 months on. But ARP is contract specific, so if the contracts are for two different properties, you will not be able to combine them for an ARP reservation.

Example: if you own 224k at resort X and 200k at resort Y, you cannot make an ARP reservation that costs 224k at resort Y because you don't own enough points to cover the res. Inside of 10 months, points are points. So, if you wanted, at 10 months you would be free to make a reservation anywhere for 424k (or any smaller amount, of course).

 

[Sandy VDH]

Agreed, you can only ARP up to the point amount you have at that particular resort. If you have 2 contracts at the same resort and they are UDI NOT converted fixed weeks you can combine them into a larger unit or higher season. But you can't combine to seperate resorts for the purpose of ARPing.

Converted fixed weeks you are limited to just ARPing the unit, size and week, you own.

As previous posters have stated, at 10 months, all of those restrictions go away, and points are indeed points.

 

[BellaWyn]

Awesome ARP Thread!

This is a GREAT thread specific to how ARP works, especially with multiple contracts. It would be a good candidate for a sticky IMO.

OP -- all the answers are coming from seasoned, experienced Wyndham owners AND TUG members and the information is spot on!

(Linda, do you have that answer set aside in a "cut & paste" somewhere? I know I've seen you post that SO many times!):whoopie:

Nice to see a succinct, straightforward thread in this forum again.(will probably get kicked for saying that :ignore

 

[ronparise]

ARP is based on all UDI points contracts with the same USE year DEEDED to that resort ...(except Myrtle Beach Wyndhams have a regional ARP).

just to make it crystal clear. (because Sandy's post is slightly different)

Does this mean that if I have two udi deeds same use year, same resort; one for 231000 points and one for 77000 points I could ARP two 154000 point reservations but if one of those deeds was a Jan use year, and the other Oct. I couldnt

ie I can combine udi points from the same resort and use year, but not the same resort and different use years

 

[vacationhopeful]

just to make it crystal clear. (because Sandy's post is slightly different)

Does this mean that if I have two udi deeds same use year, same resort; one for 231000 points and one for 77000 points I could ARP two 154000 point reservations but if one of those deeds was a Jan use year, and the other Oct. I couldnt

ie I can combine udi points from the same resort and use year, but not the same resort and different use years

That is correct. I have different USE years for my Ocean Walk contracts. I know from much experience ... no can combine.

 

[Sandy VDH]

All of my use years on my 5 contracts are aligned, so I do not have that component to consider.

I would defer the use year component to the someone who has specific information about use year complications.

But I believe your statement is correct ronparise.

I have heard of (so hearsay only) that Wyndham has adjusted people's use year to align them when requested. But that was in the past and who know what they will or will not do now.

There are merits for aligned and for unaligned. For aging braincells I find aligned is just easy for me to manage.

 

[vacationhopeful]

There are merits for aligned and for unaligned. For aging braincells I find aligned is just easy for me to manage.

Yes, is confusing. And I don't know WHY I got back into that mix after I got rid of my first APRIL contract. Now I have an October one.

 

[BellaWyn]

I have heard of (so hearsay only) that Wyndham has adjusted people's use year to align them when requested. But that was in the past and who know what they will or will not do now.

From experience, they will adjust with a formal, written request. Call title and deed first and chat them up so you are clear on the process. They will only do it once per owner/per contract.
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Caite

 

[Sandi Bo]

Regarding use years

OK, this comes from an owners update where they were trying to sell us Presidential Reserve, so take it for what it's worth...

The sales guy said that if you stagger your use years, cancelled points would be returned to the most current year.

He was trying to show me how I could roll cancelled points to a later use year so I would have more time to use them (he said I would never lose them :rofl: )

I'm with Sandy, seems easier to keep track of when everything is in the same use year, however, if it is true that cancelled points would be credited to a later use year than when the original reservation was made, it seems like it might be worth having staggered use years.

Sandi

 

[rrlongwell]

OK, this comes from an owners update where they were trying to sell us Presidential Reserve, so take it for what it's worth...

The sales guy said that if you stagger your use years, cancelled points would be returned to the most current year.

He was trying to show me how I could roll cancelled points to a later use year so I would have more time to use them (he said I would never lose them :rofl: )

I'm with Sandy, seems easier to keep track of when everything is in the same use year, however, if it is true that cancelled points would be credited to a later use year than when the original reservation was made, it seems like it might be worth having staggered use years.

Sandi

I believe what you were pitched on a staggered use year is correct. I just finished a year long test of that theory (along with others). I do not know if will continue into the future or for how long. Reservations via phone still says it cannot be done. However, if done through the computer, it is being done. I have two use years (not counting a PIC contract) and I can generate movement of ponts to overlapping use years between October, January (my two primary use years) and generate third one for March 31 of the next year from the expiring points. It is tricky and cannot be counted on and could result in lost points.

 

[hjtug]

An advantage of overlapping use years

Some folks salvage otherwise unusable small amounts of leftover points at the end of a use year by making an exchange deposit. This requires first making a reservation to borrow points from the following use year and then canceling the reservation. If you have overlapping use years the expiring points can easily be combined with points from the other use year to make such an exchange deposit, eliminating the need for the borrow and cancel maneuver.