This was in 2012. Maybe I booked three units instead of two. What I do remember is that over more than 10 years of ownership, I paid for only one guest certificate.
The agreement between Wyndham and Airbnb that allows owners to rent thru Airbnb, makes these rules obsolete.
No, because there are a multitude of third-party rental sites other than Airbnb.
Sorry but if those other sites have an agreement with Wyndham, then it makes those 2 rules even more obsolete. We are allowed to rent and advertise thru Airbnb and those other sites. Off course the wishful thinkers will tell me this is a trap and will celebrate then the door is shut on me. Their victory will be like Santa Anna's victory at the Alamo where he lost 5 to 10 men for every Alamo defender. Men he could have used when he lost Texas to Sam Houston. WHY? Because I am in my 11th month of being part of the program. August rentals covered August maintenance fees. Once the trap is sprung, that is when I leave. So, I was able to stay around for another year.
That is the point you missed. Airbnb, apparently, is the only third party site with such an agreement.
Even if you limited GC to when owners are present, you're still going to have people renting. They just need to make a two-night reservation for themselves. Sure, that increases their cost, but they can just increase the cost of the reservation. There are fewer people renting, so prices are going up anyway. Until Wyndham verifies that the owner actually checked in, renters can use this to get around the rules. Sure, the concierge can ask if they know the owner (which they do now), but the seller can just coach the buyers and tell them what to say. Sellers always find a way.
Guest certificates are needed when traveling with family and extended family who are not listed on the membership, and with friends. That is what guest certificates are intended for. It's been three years since using a guest certificate, but I'm sure I will in the future.
I agree but there is nothing wrong with sending family on their own to vacation when you cannot use your points. It's the selling part I take issue with.
Definitely - we sent our two sons to the new Atlanta resort late last summer at their request and used a GC. They are too young to be added as owners and to take on any financial obligations associated to our timeshare - so adding them as a named owner is not a good solution either as they aren't in any position to take on any financial liabilities.
Depends on who you ask. Or who will tell you even if you do not ask.
Probably too costly and not enough sales potential. Each country one would sell in would be different paperwork.
I'd also surmise that the often nefarious and deceptive sales practices that timeshares utilize every day here in the US would run into more legal/regulatory limits given the EU countries, at least the western block EU countries, generally have much more substantial consumer protections in place from what I've read and observed.
Wyndham South Pacific has Resorts in Normandy, Bavaria, and Tuscany
But that still does not actually say anything. Unless they define commercial purposes, somewhere, it is an unenforceable restriction. (yes, I am a lawyer) Wyndham is banking on the fact that no one has the resources to fight them on this, and so far, they are correct. It is unlikely that anyone will expend the resources necessary to seriously challenge them. Even if someone did, and won, then they would simply publish a definition that would disqualify that person. It's like trying to build a wall out of sand.
This is the cruelest application of a rule I’ve ever heard. If I had the energy, I would let them know via writing, and any other form of contact you have, that you will be placing an ad or letter reporting their actions in every time share outlet that exists in writing and online.
Many have already done so, and it seems to have made a difference and their guest passes are getting thru. It may because they are also using the points for themselves, and Wyndham has backed off owners renting to cover their costs after weeding out the true commercial companies that were renting for profit. Of course, the usual people who hate renting will say it is only a matter of time before Wyndham goes after those owners.
This is the wrong company for issues with the timeshare. The correct company is TNL.
Why not blame Ron also?
Paxsarah, thank you, you are correct. TNL is the operator of the Wyndham Destinations timeshare business, and they operate Panorama (which owns RCI).
Sorry, I definitely do not want to join Team Manning.