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Changed SDO ownership from 2 bed to 1 bed - do we need to update II

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daileyad

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We got a 1 bedroom SDO from a tugger and sold our 2 bedroom to another tugger :) (we want to reduce our maintenance fees so we can buy into other systems). Does II tie the SDO into our StarCentral Account Number or is it just a generic SDO? I'm wondering if I need to call up and add a 1 bedroom SDO to our account or if I can just continue to use the 2-bedroom that is set up (and just search/request with 1 bedroom side) and II will contact Starwood and they'll release our new SDO?
 
You have to do both - setup in Starwood to tie your new SDO 1BR to II and also inform II that you have a different/new SDO unit and no longer own the other one. Each account in II is tied in with a specific Starwood unit/deed.
 
daileyad said:
We got a 1 bedroom SDO from a tugger and sold our 2 bedroom to another tugger :) (we want to reduce our maintenance fees so we can buy into other systems). Does II tie the SDO into our StarCentral Account Number or is it just a generic SDO? I'm wondering if I need to call up and add a 1 bedroom SDO to our account or if I can just continue to use the 2-bedroom that is set up (and just search/request with 1 bedroom side) and II will contact Starwood and they'll release our new SDO?
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It depends on how you acquired the 2-br SDO you no longer own.

If you bought it from Starwood, the II account is set up through Starwood and the II fee is paid by Starwood from your annual assessment. SDO is a voluntary resort. You will have to set up, pay for and use an entirely new II account for the 1-br you purchased by contacting II directly. Your Starwood II account cannot be used and will lapse.

If you bought your 2-br at SDO on the resale market and did not requalify it, you probably already have an independent II account. Your recent 1-br purchase could then be added to your current II account. (I think I remember that you said on another thread you bought from Starwood. So, the higher paragraph would apply.)

If the names and addresses are exactly the same on the SDO 1-br as they were on the SDO 2-br (and the account for the 2-br has not been voided by the 1-br time clears Starwood Title), the 1-br will be placed in the same MSC account as a completely different entry (the contract number on your deed controls the entry).

If there is a delay in getting the deed to the SDO 1-br recorded and sent to Starwood Title, the old account may be voided and Starwood may have to open up a new MSC account for the 1-br. I assume that you have only 1 Starwood property and the account number really is not important to you but the fact that there is an account which contains a link by contract number to your unit is what matters. Salty
 
We bought resale and the 1 bedroom purchase already closed before the 2 bedroom sale but they are different account numbers for Starwood so I guess I will have to deal with II :annoyed: Do they still do the deal where you can add a unit if you pay for another year of membership?
 
daileyad said:
Do they still do the deal where you can add a unit if you pay for another year of membership?
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Yes, I did this just a few days ago. But, I couldn't find a valid 2:1 code to use at the same time.
 
daileyad said:
We bought resale and the 1 bedroom purchase already closed before the 2 bedroom sale but they are different account numbers for Starwood so I guess I will have to deal with II :annoyed: Do they still do the deal where you can add a unit if you pay for another year of membership?
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Whether you own a developer week, or a resale week, you still have to pay for your II membership - either an SVN fee of about $120, or a II membership of about $90. It was never free.

Since you won't be paying an SVN fee with the resale, Starwood would not have permitted you to register it in your SVN II Acct. even if it was still open. Tuggers who own both developer and resale weeks, have 2 different II Accts.

See the II and Starwood FAQ at the top of the forum for a detailed walk-through to set up your own II Acct.
 
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We don't have an SVN account. Thank goodness we never bought retail so we just have a regular II account.
 
daileyad said:
We don't have an SVN account. Thank goodness we never bought retail so we just have a regular II account.
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That makes it real easy - you will just register the new week with your existing II Acct.
 
I don't think you need to bother now. Just make sure you exchange the correct size. I have an EOY and an Annual of the same size/season and never bothered to add the other with II. When you make an exchange or start an ongoing search, II confirms with Starwood that you have a unit of that size and season designated for exchange, they really don't even check which year but will usually take the oldest one designated for exchange.

This is why the system is really bad between II and Starwood because you don't get separate generic placeholders specific to each unit and each usage year.

When it is time to renew your II account, you can let them know to take off the 2 bedroom and replace it with the one bedroom.

If one unit was platinum and one unit is 1-52 (goldplus), I believe you will need them to put the new unit in the system.
 
Here is an easy way to see if the new week can be recognized by II, without actually registering it: When your new deed has been recognized by Starwood, either go online at www.mystarcentral.com or call Owner Services and "designate it for exchange." When you do this, don't mention to anyone that it hasn't been registered. If the deposit goes through, you should see a 1 bdm. in your Acct. within a few days.

However, I don't think I would just ignore it and hope for the best, because it might cause you to lose an important exchange.
 
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Denise,
Nothing changes in my account when I designate it for exchange. Before I designate it for exchange I have a generic placemarker for the current year. If I designated my 2012 week and/or my 2013 for exchange the generic placemarkers looks exactly the same in my II account. Nothing new appears.

The OP already has placemarker for the SDO 2 bedroom , 1 bed A, and 1 bed B. After the unit is designated for exchange with Starwood and you want to confirm a unit you just need to make sure you use the correct 1 bed X now that you no longer own both sides of the lock off.

Starwood in II is confusing enough without extra generic placemarkers so you might as well get it cleaned up when you get a chance but I was suggesting that you wait until you were ready to up your account anyway.


I alway like to designate for exchange online because at least then I get an email confirmation that it has been done and on which unit and use year. If I do it over the phone there is no indication on mystarcentral or II that it has been done.
 
Nothing changes in my account when I designate it for exchange. Before I designate it for exchange I have a generic placemarker for the current year. If I designated my 2012 week and/or my 2013 for exchange the generic placemarkers looks exactly the same in my II account. Nothing new appears.
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That is correct - I am not saying that a "deposit' should show, but the fact that a new 1 bdm is registered should show, because her previous week was a 2 bdm. You said you had two identical units, (same size/season) and that's a different situation - because they would look the same in your Acct. But a 2 bdm. and a 1 bdm. do not look the same.

Your strategy may work, but it may also cause the OP to lose a valuable exchange, because the new week is different than her previous ownership, and it may not match up when they try to put the exchange through.
 
my lock off (and SDO 2 bedroom would be a lock off) shows

2bed
1bedA (for the premium side)
1bedB (for the deluxe side)

What I am saying is just exchange the appropriate 1bed that is already in the II account.

or call up II and see if they can get rid of the 2bed and the 1bed size that you don't own without making you pay extra.
 
tschwa2 said:
If one unit was platinum and one unit is 1-52 (goldplus), I believe you will need them to put the new unit in the system.
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I realized our new unit is platinum and the old was gold plus so I'll have to get it all straightened out with II and hope they don't screw it up :wall:
 
Should be fine if you ask them to delete the 2br and the add the new 1br, but it will cost you to add. Based on a really frustrating experience I have not been able to get fixed with my account over the last two months (changing my account to show a small 1br correctly as a large 1br and a 2br correctly as a 2br lockoff), i assume that they will screw it up if you are trying to change.
 
Beefnot said:
Should be fine if you ask them to delete the 2br and the add the new 1br, but it will cost you to add. Based on a really frustrating experience I have not been able to get fixed with my account over the last two months (changing my account to show a small 1br correctly as a large 1br and a 2br correctly as a 2br lockoff), i assume that they will screw it up if you are trying to change.
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Optimist! :D
 
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