Change to Redweek process and all those extra fees... And not in a good way....

[rickandcindy23]

Cindy - The only option available now is a full-service Ad.

It's a shame. They really went to the dark side when bought out by a big company.

 

[RENTER]

I am emotionally done with Wyndham and timeshare companies. They are not worth the hassle of changing rules to me. For those staying I will share this which may help you.

I used Airbnb. They gave me international exposure outside the timeshare world. My posting to rent was free. When the verified guest book, they collected and held back payment to be until the guest checked in. Then they charged me a 3% fee which they withheld from my payout.

They charge the guest a 15% fee plus the required local taxes which they paid. So the guest paid approx. 27% on top of what I charge.

 

[mauiwowie]

They also now won't take rentals within 21 days of check in, so it's useless for trying to rent something if you have a last minute change in plans as the reason for renting. Ironically, I have historically gotten most of my units rented within that 21 day period, because renters seem to prefer "last minute" plans.

 

[rickandcindy23]

This is a new ad for the same person who has been renting quite a few DVC/ II exchange weeks. How are they able to keep a float ad going, especially with exchange rentals? This is Disney's Old Key West. Point cost is 205 and up for a full week. This person used to advertise with the $190 fee. The username is SS.

 

[dioxide45]

This is a new ad for the same person who has been renting quite a few DVC/ II exchange weeks. How are they able to keep a float ad going, especially with exchange rentals? This is Disney's Old Key West. Point cost is 205 and up for a full week. This person used to advertise with the $190 fee. The username is SS.

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Aren't those the same dates as before? Does Redweek automatically adjust the starting date (August 3) as time goes on?

 

[andre10056]

This is a new ad for the same person who has been renting quite a few DVC/ II exchange weeks. How are they able to keep a float ad going, especially with exchange rentals? This is Disney's Old Key West. Point cost is 205 and up for a full week. This person used to advertise with the $190 fee. The username is SS.

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I just checked and Redweek has JUST changed things up again. Last week, one could place a floating ad. But now, when you say you haven't yet made a reservation, it shows a banner which says:

You need a reservation to rent with our online booking system. Make a reservation, then return here to finish your rental.​

Last week, you could say you hadn't yet made a reservation and it would then take you to the next page where you could fill in the available floating days. Apparently, no more.

So, whoever SS is, it looks like Redweek will no longer be an option for him/her to rent out exchanges (assuming Redweek will continue to not accept exchanges for its rental ads...but who knows about that with Redweek no longer being Redweek). He got that ad in right before the change.

 

[andre10056]

They also now won't take rentals within 21 days of check in, so it's useless for trying to rent something if you have a last minute change in plans as the reason for renting. Ironically, I have historically gotten most of my units rented within that 21 day period, because renters seem to prefer "last minute" plans.

Redweek has gone wild with new banners that arise depending on what information you provide when you want to post an ad. You're 100% right with the "within 21 days" prohibition as I encountered the following brand new banner:

Sorry, we can't take rentals within 21 days of check-in

I'm not sure I understand the reason behind that one. Perhaps a tacit admission that their online booking process takes forever?

 

[dioxide45]

Redweek has gone wild with new banners that arise depending on what information you provide when you want to post an ad. You're 100% right with the "within 21 days" prohibition as I encountered the following brand new banner:

Sorry, we can't take rentals within 21 days of check-in

I'm not sure I understand the reason behind that one. Perhaps a tacit admission that their online booking process takes forever?

Or perhaps the verification process takes a while? Since everything is now V&P, they have that banner now for everything. Did that banner show previously on V&P when trying to list inside 21 days?

 

[andre10056]

Or perhaps the verification process takes a while? Since everything is now V&P, they have that banner now for everything. Did that banner show previously on V&P when trying to list inside 21 days?

Yes. The whole Redweek "online booking process" which necessarily includes the verification process as well as the online booking procedure must take so much time that they need at least 21 days.

I have in the past had a last minute change that necessitated my attempt to rent the week out via Redweek. And I saw no such banner. But, in that case, I didn't do the V&P route.

And in the past when I did the V&P route, I saw no such banner because my ad was placed many months before the check-in date.

So I personally don't know if that banner always arose in the past if someone were to have tried both (1) the V&P route and (2) check-in date within 21 days, but mauiwowie's post above seems to suggest that is a change. But maybe he/she was always a DIY renter in the past.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Aren't those the same dates as before? Does Redweek automatically adjust the starting date (August 3) as time goes on?

This ad is marked as NEW, in red, meaning it was started in the last 30 days. You get that tag on your listing for 30 days after placing the ad.

This means that you could place an ad sometime in the last 30 days as a float week. That's the point I was making. Same person that has had dozens of II exchanges for rent. Now I am wondering if this is a Redweek employee or someone who is getting privileges for listing that I am not getting.

 

[tschwa2]

This ad is marked as NEW, in red, meaning it was started in the last 30 days. You get that tag on your listing for 30 days after placing the ad.

This means that you could place an ad sometime in the last 30 days as a float week. That's the point I was making. Same person that has had dozens of II exchanges for rent. Now I am wondering if this is a Redweek employee or someone who is getting privileges for listing that I am not getting.

They only removed the ability to post float weeks around 2 weeks ago. It could be new but going forward unless they change that won't be an option.

 

[mauiwowie]

Yes. The whole Redweek "online booking process" which necessarily includes the verification process as well as the online booking procedure must take so much time that they need at least 21 days.

I have in the past had a last minute change that necessitated my attempt to rent the week out via Redweek. And I saw no such banner. But, in that case, I didn't do the V&P route.

And in the past when I did the V&P route, I saw no such banner because my ad was placed many months before the check-in date.

So I personally don't know if that banner always arose in the past if someone were to have tried both (1) the V&P route and (2) check-in date within 21 days, but mauiwowie's post above seems to suggest that is a change. But maybe he/she was always a DIY renter in the past.

I can't say for sure that the 21 days is new because I have rarely done a V&P. The reason I believe it's new is that I have a listing that I accidentally paid for verification when I was paying for another listing. When I tried to modify the dates for that listing, I got a pop up saying something like "the check in date needs to be 5 (7?) days later than today". Then I attempted to place a new ad and got the 21 day banner. Doesn't make sense why the existing ad only needs 5-7 days but new ads need 21 for the same process.

I'm figuring that they are realizing that they can't keep up now that they've changed all new ads to "full service"

 

[rickandcindy23]

They only removed the ability to post float weeks around 2 weeks ago. It could be new but going forward unless they change that won't be an option.

Crazy. They got in before the change. Now they have six months to make exchanges and rent them. It's really quite disgusting. The number of points needed for a 2 bedroom in lowest season is 209 for a week. No one rents DVC that cheaply. I hope SS gets caught, but they won't.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Redweek has gone wild with new banners that arise depending on what information you provide when you want to post an ad. You're 100% right with the "within 21 days" prohibition as I encountered the following brand new banner:

Sorry, we can't take rentals within 21 days of check-in

I'm not sure I understand the reason behind that one. Perhaps a tacit admission that their online booking process takes forever?

And the verify process takes a bit of time as well.

 

[DeniseM]

I still have a few active Ads on Redweek, but I can no longer access them. This is the response I got when I asked why:

Hi Denise,

Thank you for contacting RedWeek.com, the complete timeshare marketplace.

We did just change our posting edit options, and the only changes that we can accommodate on the remaining Do-It-Yourself rental postings are price changes. We understand that many of our owners may want to edit posting dates. However, this is no longer an option.

What a Scam! This means that Redweek is forcing out DIY Ad owners, even before their current Ads expire.

 

[pinetree1]

Owners should place more Ad with www.myresortnetwork.com (Do they charge fee as well?) and/or Tug2 to at least an alternative marketplace.

 

[rickandcindy23]

I still have a few active Ads on Redweek, but I can no longer access them. This is the response I got when I asked why:

What a Scam! This means that Redweek is forcing out DIY Ad owners, even before their current Ads expire.

I agree.

 

[andre10056]

Owners should place more Ad with www.myresortnetwork.com (Do they charge fee as well?) and/or Tug2 to at least an alternative marketplace.

I agree 100% and I'm letting every one of my prior renters know to check for ads on that site. In answer to your question, $19.95 for a rental ad.

 

[TUGBrian]

this would explain the recent increase in marriott listings on tug!

listings still completely free with a membership =)

 

[JohnnyO]

I’m not really worried about it. I’ve gotten my money for many years now. And I’m close enough to go use the week itself if it happens. And I would be due 100% of the rental if the renter cancels at the last minute.

Redweeks rental agreement re cancellation:

• 4. Cancellations
  Renter and Owner agree to the following Cancellation Policy once RedWeek issues the Confirmation: If Renter cancels at least 65 prior to check-in, 50% of the total rental amount will be paid to the owner as a cancellation penalty, less agreed-upon fees. For cancellations less than 65 days prior to check-in, the penalty is 100% less fees.
  • 4.1. Any challenges or withdrawal of the Rent Payment are strictly prohibited per section 3.4 and will result in a cancellation of the reservation and cancellation penalties and fees will apply. RedWeek will pursue collection of these funds through all available means, including collection agency and/or legal proceedings, and maintains the right to report the unpaid debt to credit agencies.
  • 4.2. If the Owner modifies the reservation after Confirmation or neglects responsibilities required to maintain the reservation, resulting in the Unit being unavailable for Renter during the Rental Period, Owner shall be liable for any and all costs and damages incurred by the Renter and/or RedWeek for securing re-accommodation.
  • 4.3. All check-in and cancellation dates will use Pacific Time, regardless of the time zone of Owner, Renter, or Resort.
  • 4.4. All cancellations must be completed through RedWeek.com. Cancellations completed through any other channel will result in a 100% cancellation penalty.
  • 4.5. If transportation or other services are canceled by the seller of travel, all sums paid to the seller of travel for services not performed in accordance with the contract between the seller of travel and the purchaser will be refunded within thirty days of receiving the funds from the vendor with whom the services were arranged, or if the funds were not sent to the vendor, the funds shall be returned within fourteen days after cancellation by the seller of travel to the purchaser unless the purchaser requests the seller of travel to apply the money to another travel product and/or date.

I was paid in full. Friday July 25 renter check-in date, digitally paid July 29th, confirmed in bank account August 1st.