Cesspool fined & closed at Kauai Beach Resort

[DeniseM]

Not good:

EPA inspectors found one cesspool at the Nukoli’i Beach Park Comfort Station on the windward side of Kauai, which took discharge from restrooms. The owner, the Kauai Beach Resort Association, has agreed to pay a $55,182 penalty and to close it by Jan. 31, 2021.

EPA closes 16 Kauai cesspools and issues $55K in fines | Honolulu Star-Advertiser

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency today said it has shut down 16 large-capacity cesspools on Kauai and issued $55,182 in fines to a resort management association.

www.staradvertiser.com

If you have ever walked the perimiter of the resort, this restroom is located at the ocean end of the road bordering the south side of the resort - marked in red on the map below.

 

[Conan]

From Google Maps

 

[DeniseM]

That's it - mostly used by local fishermen, because it's not close to the resort itself. You can see the hotel in the top left of the picture, in the background.

 

[jacknsara]

FWIW in case KBV owners are wondering who shares the cost, the KBRA includes the condohotel (KBR) and all 150 apartments at KBV (tha AOAO).

 

[DeniseM]

So - not the timeshares?

 

[jacknsara]

Pahio KBV timeshares (the IOA) are 105 of 150 apartments in the AOAO, so we do participate in the cost. After posting yesterday, I remembered that the owner of all that land (commonly referred to as the Walters Trust) is also a member of and pays into the KBRA. Bottom line impact to our weekly MFs is probably between $1 and $3 but I have no way of actually calculating that. If the timeshares had to pay it all, it would a few cents over $10/week.

 

[kitversus]

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From Google Maps

And what does this have to do with KBV? I'm looking for flood update, and when we can begin to plan visits. Hawaii is still closed to Howlies, I believe, so when will we be able to come/ book?

 

[DeniseM]

KBV owns the property, the bathroom, and the cesspool. No one knows when they will lift the Hawaii quarantine, because the infection rate has increased in Hawaii.

 

[kitversus]

Thank you, Denise. And my comment say "guest" but I AM a member.

 

[DeniseM]

You have to change your status to member yourself - here's how: https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/t...-member-code-in-your-bbs-profile.53/#post-109

 

[bianchicycle]

What is being done about all of the weeks that owners could not use and do not belong to an exchange company. Maybe RCI/ Wyndham would like to give a couple years of membership to those owners so they don’t have to throw away weeks?

 

[DeniseM]

It's easy to join an exchange company - just join one and deposit your week(s). However, RCI has nothing to do with KBV ownership - RCI is a completely separate entity and they have no obligation to owners.

 

[jacknsara]

What is being done about all of the weeks that owners could not use and do not belong to an exchange company. Maybe RCI/ Wyndham would like to give a couple years of membership to those owners so they don’t have to throw away weeks?

Aloha,
A June 4 email from the BOD / Wyndham Resort manager contained the following

" Aloha Kauai Beach Villas IOA Owner,
We are pleased to provide you with an update on the Annual Meeting, COVID-19 impacts and flood remediation issues at Kauai Beach Villas.
Select the links below to view or download:
Newsletter ( http://media.campaigner.com/media/60/600565/182284_Wyn_IOA Newsletter Volume 3.pdf )
Governor Ige’s Eighth Proclamation Flooding Q&A
We hope you find this newsletter informative and helpful.
Kauai Beach Villas IOA Board of Directors"

Here are a few excerpts from the linked newsletter:
The Board voted to approve the a rebooking option for owner reservations cancelled during the COVID resort closure wherein impacted owners will be able to rebook their 2020 week(s) as far out as December 31, 2021. The Board recommends owners book as early as possible. We will not be able to accommodate all the owners in the last months of 2021.
RECOGNITION OF WYNDHAM DONATION
Further to the final bullet point above, rebooking COVID 19 impacted owners into 2021 effectively “doubles up” their usage next year. Because the Association currently holds title to very few weeks there is insufficient inventory to satisfy the rebooking needs created by the COVID-19 cancellations. To fully accommodate the Owners whose reservations were cancelled during the COVID resort closure, Wyndham Destinations has elected to forgo their 2021 use rights on as many of the weeks that they own as necessary to ensure adequate inventory for use by impacted Owners in 2021. As a result of Wyndham’s donation, no impacted Owners will lose their 2020 use rights. Without Wyndham’s donation the Association would be challenged to extend the offer to our Owners to use their cancelled 2020 week(s) in 2021.

Contact the resort manger or reservations to find out if the above is still operative.
We chose a different direction. https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/t...i-coronavirus-discussions.304580/post-2500126

 

[bianchicycle]

Jack, that works well for those who have a week or two to move but those who have a three weeks to move and two new weeks the next year, that is more weeks than will be used. Let’s start being a bit more concerned for the individual owners!
As for the person stating that RCI has nothing to do with KBV.... Wyndham is our management company and they OWN RCI........ They have invested a bunch of money into KBV and memberships would be a drop in the bucket!

 

[jacknsara]

Jack, that works well for those who have a week or two to move but those who have a three weeks to move and two new weeks the next year, that is more weeks than will be used. Let’s start being a bit more concerned for the individual owners!
As for the person stating that RCI has nothing to do with KBV.... Wyndham is our management company and they OWN RCI........ They have invested a bunch of money into KBV and memberships would be a drop in the bucket!

Aloha,
I didn't remember (or never knew) how many weeks you own. We own 3-1/2 equivalent annual weeks at KBV and 1 at Shearwater. That's why we did not attempt to reschedule 2020 weeks into 2021.
We're all impacted by the COVID-19. While I do not wish to defend Wyndham, their offer to cover 2020 unusable weeks with 2021 inventory that Wyndham owns makes reasonable sense for the approximately 4 out of 5 owners who have only one annual or one every other year unit (see survey results page 2 https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/k...y-results-initial-release.286527/post-2252217 )
The 1 out of 5 of us who own more are left to pursue the best arrangement we can. Its a bit late in the year now. We took our first action in late Feb / early March by rescheduling our May reservations to October. Recently, as previously posted, we threw in the towel on 2020. I had been looking forward to the end of our RCI membership. Now we're multi-year members again.
We got 29 TPU per KBV week (1B2B OF). If its not too late to deposit for your situation, the cost of the RCI membership and exchange fee is a minor fraction of the 2020 MFs you have spent on your KBV weeks.
Jack

 

[ecwinch]

Jack, that works well for those who have a week or two to move but those who have a three weeks to move and two new weeks the next year, that is more weeks than will be used. Let’s start being a bit more concerned for the individual owners!
As for the person stating that RCI has nothing to do with KBV.... Wyndham is our management company and they OWN RCI........ They have invested a bunch of money into KBV and memberships would be a drop in the bucket!

I find it amazing that their offer to not use the weeks they control is not a sufficient contribution for some.

 

[bnoble]

Jack, that works well for those who have a week or two to move but those who have a three weeks to move and two new weeks the next year, that is more weeks than will be used. Let’s start being a bit more concerned for the individual owners!
As for the person stating that RCI has nothing to do with KBV.... Wyndham is our management company and they OWN RCI........ They have invested a bunch of money into KBV and memberships would be a drop in the bucket!

The offer to rebook (with Wyndham donating weeks they hold rights to) seems sufficiently generous. I get that it is not excatly what you wanted, but it is nonetheless quite reasonsable. If you don't want to take advantage of that option, it seems that you could either (a) pay to join a third-party exchange (e.g. RCI) or (b) use a third-party exchange that does not have membership costs. I would not turn down more generous support, but unlike you I certainly don't expect it.