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To be clear, MP Angus was not giving an official travel advisory. Honestly it's a bit painful to watch civil liberties get pulled back from the outside and have a large portion of the population be oblivious to it since it does not directly affect them directly and immediately. Check out the story of a Canadian who was recently detained for two weeks by ICE with no option to contact her lawyer.
Yes I saw that story yesterday and some others where tourists have been arrested by ICE https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...urists-creates-fear-over-traveling-to-america.

No more special treatment for Canadians at the US border. Look what they did at the Haskell library and opera house https://www.cbsnews.com/news/haskel...e-canada-u-s-cross-border-separate-entrances/
 
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To be clear, MP Angus was not giving an official travel advisory. Honestly it's a bit painful to watch civil liberties get pulled back from the outside and have a large portion of the population be oblivious to it since it does not directly affect them directly and immediately. Check out the story of a Canadian who was recently detained for two weeks by ICE with no option to contact her lawyer.

I watched the young woman interview on ctv and wondered why she would have been chosen to be detained. The only thing I can think of is it was the Tijuana border crossing and her visa had been revoked while she was in Mexico and the Candian Consulate Office didn't intervien on her behalf in a timely manner.

I never thought about what Canadians have to do to drive to Mexico. I had thought you just show a passport. No clue why a Canadian would need a visa to cross the border unless maybe their 6 month visa was expired.

Bill
 
I watched the young woman interview on ctv and wondered why she would have been chosen to be detained. The only thing I can think of is it was the Tijuana border crossing and her visa had been revoked while she was in Mexico and the Candian Consulate Office didn't intervien on her behalf in a timely manner.

I never thought about what Canadians have to do to drive to Mexico. I had thought you just show a passport. No clue why a Canadian would need a visa to cross the border unless maybe their 6 month visa was expired.

Bill

I think Canadians sometimes don't realize how much better the US has treated us than everyone else in the past. A few years ago we took trip to Puerto Vallarta, and stopped in Los Angeles on the way back for a few days of Disneyland and a Dodgers game.

The treatment at the "non-US citizen" line at LAX was much coarser than I have generally received when from US CBP at the pre-clearance at the Calgary airport where I generally cross into the US. The difference was extremely notable, imo, and I think we as Canadians may need to accept that we are no longer getting the "friends and family treatment" from our closest neighbour.
 
I think Canadians sometimes don't realize how much better the US has treated us than everyone else in the past. A few years ago we took trip to Puerto Vallarta, and stopped in Los Angeles on the way back for a few days of Disneyland and a Dodgers game.

The treatment at the "non-US citizen" line at LAX was much coarser than I have generally received when from US CBP at the pre-clearance at the Calgary airport where I generally cross into the US. The difference was extremely notable, imo, and I think we as Canadians may need to accept that we are no longer getting the "friends and family treatment" from our closest neighbour.

I'm thinking 2026 will be Mexico and the Caribbean for many Canadian snowbirds. Many of the guests at the Mexican resorts we go to in winter are Canadian. Last winter it was explained to us that the Peso to CAD ratio was not that bad so Mexico is doable for many Canadians. Probably more doable all things considered.

Bill
 
We live in Alberta and looking to buy a time share on the secondary market. We used to own a timeshare at Holiday Park resort, that was bought on the second hand market, but never stayed at the resort. The resort offered to take back the resort and we agreed to do so as the RCI points that we were receiving (about 37,000 per year) wasn't a lot for booking another resort unless we banked the points.

We did use the RCI points to stay at resorts such as the Sheraton Desert Oasis in Scottsdale, Meadow Lake in Montana, and Welk Resorts in Escondido, Radium Vacation Resort in Radium and Riverside in Fairmont.

We are looking at a second hand time share at Grandview Resort in Las Vegas as it seems to give the best bang for the RCI buck. Any thoughts or feedback is appreciated?
 
Well I'm not currently an owner but wanted to see how Canadians are juggling or using their timeshare.
I'm in Montreal and have Embarc (trades through Interval). I can drive to Tremblant or Blue Mountain, the others I fly to. Embarc has 9 resorts you can use your points to stay as well as 4 Diamond properties in Europe (not Embarc but bookable same as our own resorts with no resort or exchange fees). 6 of the 9 Embarc are in Canada (Tremblant, Blue Mountain, Panorama, Vancouver, Whistler and Ucluelet), 2 in the US (Palm Desert and Sandestin) and one in Mexico (Zihuatenajo). The EU resorts are in France (near Paris & near Nice), Italy (near Florence) and Portugal (near Faro).
 
I watched the young woman interview on ctv and wondered why she would have been chosen to be detained. The only thing I can think of is it was the Tijuana border crossing and her visa had been revoked while she was in Mexico and the Candian Consulate Office didn't intervien on her behalf in a timely manner.

I never thought about what Canadians have to do to drive to Mexico. I had thought you just show a passport. No clue why a Canadian would need a visa to cross the border unless maybe their 6 month visa was expired.

Bill
You've got the story a bit wrong. She was trying to renew her 6-month work visa (which can usually be done at a land border). Instead of just refusing her - she was still in Mexico and that would be the usual procedure - they detained her for 3 weeks and would not allow her to communicate with anyone nor purchase her own fare home to Vancouver. Rule of law not followed and arbitrary decisions being made, which makes it difficult to assess how any perceived anomaly will be treated. Reports of French scientist trying to attend a conference (CBP examined his phone and found negative comments about Trump & administration) and several other persons detained who normally would have gone across with no issues.
 
I'm thinking 2026 will be Mexico and the Caribbean for many Canadian snowbirds. Many of the guests at the Mexican resorts we go to in winter are Canadian. Last winter it was explained to us that the Peso to CAD ratio was not that bad so Mexico is doable for many Canadians. Probably more doable all things considered.

Bill
This is actually a response for Bizaro86 (sorry Bill, used wrong quote). There's a difference between preclearance at a Canadian airport and land borders. CBP can't detain you arbitrarily because you're still in Canada and can just decide to not board the flight to the US. I don't think it would be very well received if they didn't follow normal procedures with Canadians on Canadian soil and decided to detain someone like they did the Vancouver woman...
 
We are looking at a second hand time share at Grandview Resort in Las Vegas as it seems to give the best bang for the RCI buck. Any thoughts or feedback is appreciated?

It's a good way of going for sure. I was talking to a couple in Vancouver that bought a tri-anual contract so they could use the exchange companies deals and pay very little in mf.

Bill
 
I'm in Montreal and have Embarc (trades through Interval). I can drive to Tremblant or Blue Mountain, the others I fly to. Embarc has 9 resorts you can use your points to stay as well as 4 Diamond properties in Europe (not Embarc but bookable same as our own resorts with no resort or exchange fees). 6 of the 9 Embarc are in Canada (Tremblant, Blue Mountain, Panorama, Vancouver, Whistler and Ucluelet), 2 in the US (Palm Desert and Sandestin) and one in Mexico (Zihuatenajo). The EU resorts are in France (near Paris & near Nice), Italy (near Florence) and Portugal (near Faro).
if someone owns whistler, which has been rebranded hgvc, do they book like hgvc owners? or are their rules and booking windows different from a legacy hgvc owner?
 
We live in Alberta and looking to buy a time share on the secondary market. We used to own a timeshare at Holiday Park resort, that was bought on the second hand market, but never stayed at the resort. The resort offered to take back the resort and we agreed to do so as the RCI points that we were receiving (about 37,000 per year) wasn't a lot for booking another resort unless we banked the points.

We did use the RCI points to stay at resorts such as the Sheraton Desert Oasis in Scottsdale, Meadow Lake in Montana, and Welk Resorts in Escondido, Radium Vacation Resort in Radium and Riverside in Fairmont.

We are looking at a second hand time share at Grandview Resort in Las Vegas as it seems to give the best bang for the RCI buck. Any thoughts or feedback is appreciated?
I am also looking at Grandview Las Vegas, fees seem reasonable and we are looking at 2br- biannual, keeping it at approx 475 us per year in fees. What does the RCI exchange value look like? what does 61k(122k total) in points get you roughly in RCI, family of 5! thank you
 
I am also looking at Grandview Las Vegas, fees seem reasonable and we are looking at 2br- biannual, keeping it at approx 475 us per year in fees. What does the RCI exchange value look like? what does 61k(122k total) in points get you roughly in RCI, family of 5! thank you

The main value with RCI are the extra vacations and last calls. You could get any size unit that is available for cash. I have no clue how well the Grandview exchanges. I see these all the time in the last call or extra vacation section of RCI usually going for less than the mf.

Bill
 
This is actually a response for Bizaro86 (sorry Bill, used wrong quote). There's a difference between preclearance at a Canadian airport and land borders. CBP can't detain you arbitrarily because you're still in Canada and can just decide to not board the flight to the US. I don't think it would be very well received if they didn't follow normal procedures with Canadians on Canadian soil and decided to detain someone like they did the Vancouver woman...

I agree, that was the point of my story. Even prior to the current issues there was a big difference in treatment, but many Canadians would only ever experience pre-clearance or Canadian land borders.

Now I'm not sure I'd be willing to enter the USA any other way due to rule of law concerns. At least at YYC pre-clearance I could just leave and still be in Canada.
 
what does 61k(122k total) in points get you roughly in RCI,
It all depends on where and when you vacation and the size of the unit you need. Obviously a Gold Crown resort in a popular high demand area for a popular week is going to require more points than staying in the interior of, say TN, in November. We have 77K points and always get 3-5 vacations, all 7-13 nights long from them with careful planning. Last year I worked it out well, and had just 50 points leftover. I refused to pay to carry that small amount over to this year. If you wanted to book a 2 or 3 bedroom unit at a Gold Crown resort during a popular time at a high demand resort, it could take all or most of your 122K points, or they may not be enough.

We dont need Gold Crown resorts, only travel in shoulder season and our 3 kids are now adults with families of their own so we usually just need a 1 bedroom. We are retired (and can travel on short notice) so we do enjoy longer stays with points and the exchange fee to book 13 nights is the same as booking 7, but not all resorts offer longer stays. There is a section in the RCI Exchanges for resort stays costing 10K points or less for 7 nights. Those are often (but not always) short check-in dates, in areas where there are lots of timeshares or low demand (ie; Kissimmee, Williamsburg) and I rarely see a 2 bedroom in there. We have never booked less than a 7 night stay as there is always a housekeeping fee with that. The couple of times we needed a 5 night stay in Kissimmee I found a 7 night Last Call that worked out cheaper than using our points, paying the exchange fee and the housekeeping fee.


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The treatment at the "non-US citizen" line at LAX was much coarser than I have generally received when from US CBP at the pre-clearance at the Calgary airport where I generally cross into the US. The difference was extremely notable, imo, and I think we as Canadians may need to accept that we are no longer getting the "friends and family treatment" from our closest neighbour.
I experienced this even as a US citizen. At the US CBP pre-clearance at Toronto Pearson, I was unlucky and got randomly chosen to be put in the "non-US citizen" line and undergo extra interrogation. I got a particularly arrogant agent who purposely kept me there for 40 minutes while he asked me ridiculous questions, some bordering on accusatory. I was seething but kept my mouth shut and stayed "polite". That was in 2017.
 
if someone owns whistler, which has been rebranded hgvc, do they book like hgvc owners? or are their rules and booking windows different from a legacy hgvc owner?
Embarc is HGVC in name only. HGVC can only trade into Embarc using Destination Xchange or HGV Max. Rules are specific to Embarc as are booking windows. Embarc is points based. No deeds. How many points you have determines where and when you book. There is no home resort, equal access to all 9.
 
Embarc is HGVC in name only. HGVC can only trade into Embarc using Destination Xchange or HGV Max. Rules are specific to Embarc as are booking windows. Embarc is points based. No deeds. How many points you have determines where and when you book. There is no home resort, equal access to all 9.
Have you tried to book in Europe? I didn't realize that was possible with Embarc - makes it more appealing (potentially) as we'd probably otherwise only be interested in Panorama and Ucluelet (which I understand is pretty tough to get).
 
Have you tried to book in Europe? I didn't realize that was possible with Embarc - makes it more appealing (potentially) as we'd probably otherwise only be interested in Panorama and Ucluelet (which I understand is pretty tough to get).
I'm not embarc, but in my DEX i see europe availability. my DEX is via craig lodges ownership.
 
Have you tried to book in Europe? I didn't realize that was possible with Embarc - makes it more appealing (potentially) as we'd probably otherwise only be interested in Panorama and Ucluelet (which I understand is pretty tough to get).
Yes, I went to the Portugal resort in September. You just enter the location or resort name in the usual points search box and they come up. No exchange or resort fees. Right now we have 4 available for sure, I believe there's a fifth one in Spain as well.
 
I agree, that was the point of my story. Even prior to the current issues there was a big difference in treatment, but many Canadians would only ever experience pre-clearance or Canadian land borders.

Now I'm not sure I'd be willing to enter the USA any other way due to rule of law concerns. At least at YYC pre-clearance I could just leave and still be in Canada.
Being in the same neck of the woods as you. Coutts has always been hit/miss but more so coming back into Canada, then going down into the USA. My feeling is that if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about, Montana has always operated under a different set of perceived rules (no State Tax so Tourism I think is likely their largest industry). We have NEXUS as well as make sure our Passports are renewed as soon as eligible (the 6 month expiration thing does somewhat concern me, probably unfounded). At YYC with NEXUS often (probably 90% of the time) they call our names, ask us if we have anything to declare, verify where we are going and up the escalator we go into the gift shop, it takes us less then 15 minutes to do Security/Customs with the layout at the new(ish) International Terminal. If they want to search our bags/vehicle whatever, they can go for it, again nothing to hide, nothing to worry about. I think those that do have something to hide, they might tend to need to worry a little bit more then the lackadaisical approach to some border crossings in the past.
You only live once, we bleed Red/White just as much as any Canadian, just going to keep doing what we had been doing (Disney/Phoenix/Vegas/California etc). Hate me, or not that's just one persons .02.
 
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