Can you make reservation using both Developer and Resale points?

[lprstn]

I haven't had to make any new reservations yet and wonder if anyone has done this and can tell me if I can mix the two to go towards one reservation? Does it cancel out my VIPG benefits?

 

[bnoble]

At the moment, this can only be done during the Express window. After a promised upcoming software update (possibly as early as January) it will also be possible during Standard and (if applicable) ARP.

Any reservation that uses any resale points cannot get any VIP benefits, so yes combining would cancel those out.

 

[HitchHiker71]

At present if you are a non-VIP hybrid owner - you can combine resale/retail points in all three reservation windows when applicable.

If you are a VIP hybrid owner - there are known limitations that should be remediated in mid-January that will allow all VIP hybrid owners to book in all three reservation windows using combined points when applicable. At present - some VIP hybrid owners can do this - and some cannot - it's hit or miss.

 

[Sandi Bo]

I saw a FB post that if you booked with resale/retail points you would probably pay housekeeping fees. @HitchHiker71, can you confirm? I hope that isn't the design. If my housekeeping is free, because I used developer points for some of my reservation and I'm not going to move rooms, why would I have to pay housekeeping on the reservation?

 

[Sandy VDH]

If you book a hybrid developer resale, you will have to use the resale reservation and the resale housekeeping you have. If you are out you will have to pay.

If you combine them you will lose all of the developer point perks you receive, like unlimited transactions and unlimited Housekeeping (if you have those).

 

[Sandi Bo]

If you book a hybrid developer resale, you will have to use the resale reservation and the resale housekeeping you have. If you are out you will have to pay.

If you combine them you will lose all of the developer point perks you receive, like unlimited transactions and unlimited Housekeeping (if you have those).

So why wouldn't I book with my developer points first, get my free housekeeping and transaction, and then add on with my resale points?

Honestly, I don't care a lot about this, so whatever happens, so be it, but I don't understand why we wouldn't get the benefit of our developer points that would be involved. But logically to me, I shouldn't have to pay housekeeping.

 

[Sandy VDH]

You get 2 free HK and 2 free Reservation transactions on your Resale side, so you won't have to pay for HK or RT if you have some still available.

You can't book a developer points transaction and add on with resale point, Wynd will likely treat that as a 2nd reservation. So if you are going to use up one of your resale frees HK or RTs why not just book it as 1 reservation.

Wynd wants to get their pound of resale flesh. I just booked a 4 BR Pres at BC and used up all my resale points in one tranaction, used up 1 free resale HK and RT. No difference to me. The 4 BR Pres BC will likely never make it to free upgrades and discount window anyway. Just be smarter about which reservations you make with resale.

 

[tschwa2]

There are some who report ability to book with vip hybrid outside of express. Most can't. So if you haven't tried you might as well try. Any mixed use reservations get no vip perks.

 

[HitchHiker71]

I saw a FB post that if you booked with resale/retail points you would probably pay housekeeping fees. @HitchHiker71, can you confirm? I hope that isn't the design. If my housekeeping is free, because I used developer points for some of my reservation and I'm not going to move rooms, why would I have to pay housekeeping on the reservation?

Sorry for the delay in response - we were away in the Poconos (Wyndham Shawnee on Delaware) this weekend and I tried my best to disconnect.

@Sandy VDH already provided the requested guidance - long story short - can you only borrow points from your developer points bucket when initially selecting your resale points bucket. Whenever this is done - any/all VIP developer points benefits are no longer applicable. So it is by design in other words - this was communicated as part of the original comms we received back in July of this year - with subsequent clarifications that we received via our Q&A responses that we received back from Wyndham in August timeframe.

My approach based upon the current rules is to use my resale points for larger points reservations - usually for our family vacations - where I'm not going to leverage any VIP benefits anyways. This way I'm not really hitting up against any of the resale points bucket RT/HK limits where I'd have to pay out of pocket.

 

[Sandi Bo]

Sorry for the delay in response - we were away in the Poconos (Wyndham Shawnee on Delaware) this weekend and I tried my best to disconnect.

@Sandy VDH already provided the requested guidance - long story short - can you only borrow points from your developer points bucket when initially selecting your resale points bucket. Whenever this is done - any/all VIP developer points benefits are no longer applicable. So it is by design in other words - this was communicated as part of the original comms we received back in July of this year - with subsequent clarifications that we received via our Q&A responses that we received back from Wyndham in August timeframe.

My approach based upon the current rules is to use my resale points for larger points reservations - usually for our family vacations - where I'm not going to leverage any VIP benefits anyways. This way I'm not really hitting up against any of the resale points bucket RT/HK limits where I'd have to pay out of pocket.

Thanks for the followup. My approach is similar to yours, with a touch of get rid of resale altogether. And really it just isn't that big a deal to me, it will happen once a year, right? Just another Wyndham squeeze in my books.

 

[dandjane1]

I agree about the ability to book pure resale points reservations in the Standard window. I had no problem. Haven't tried a mixed-points deal, and probably won't. Developer points are too dear to use and get no benefit.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Some really good news to share resulting from the two outage windows this week - it does appear that the fixes were implemented for hybrid VIP owners to borrow developer points when performing a resale booking transaction in the SRP. I cannot test via ARP since I don't have like contracts in the ARP window - but SRP has been tested per the screenshots below and is working now at least for me.