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cabo huricane resort damage report? [merged]

We called about the Fiesta Americana Grand in Cabo yesterday as we are scheduled to be there the 28th-4th. They said minimal damage. Then I saw this:
http://abc7.com/weather/hurricane-odile-socal-woman-talks-being-stranded/310312/

We are going to give it a few more days before we decide. We are more concerned about how to get from the airport to FA than anything. Who knows what the roads are like and if they will have rental cars. I feel so sorry for the residents of Cabo.
 
Playa Grande unit damage request. How awful for everyone in Cabo and my heart goes out to tourists and residents alike.

Can someone check out the following Playa Grande units and/or buildings for damage?
I'm especially concerned about the PG building with all units facing the beach. This is the "A" building.

A-1374 - Third floor unit directly faces the beach and open ocean!
L-2602 - Sixth floor unit in building with the high arch breezeway from main lobby.
Ridge A-3203 - Third floor facing the marina on end nearest Finisterra.

I've been going to my Sol Mar/Playa Grande timeshares same time for past 22 years!
I own those units in weeks 7, 8, 9 in that order and am scheduled to return starting Feb 14, 2015. Sure hope all is back in order by Feb but wonder!

Many thanks! And, I pray all of you tourists get home safely and soon!
 
Jim - We are "owners" of RTU weeks at Buganvilias and "Mayan World". Both of these had significant hurricane damage since we have been "owners" and neither charged a special assessment for their repairs.

The Buganvilias was totally closed for 18 months because the water damaged the HVAC in the basement of the buildings. They did not charge MF while they were closed, and if you did want to pay MF so that you could deposit your week, they deposited a week for when they would be open again.

Mayan Palace Mayan Riviera took a direct hit with Wilma in late October 2005 and we actually went 3-1/2 weeks following it as planned for a large family vacation. We learned so much about Grupo Mayan and their employees while we were there. The employees were so gracious and helpful, but were glad we were there so they still had jobs. Everyone, including clerical staff had helped scoop sand out of the pool. Grupo gave most of the food that was in the refrigerators and freezers to their employees, plus some water damaged furniture. The employees were so grateful to the management for helping them however they could as many had lost everything. The management rotated the employees around so that everyone got a chance to work directly with guest (therefore receive tips) during the clean-up time.
The Buganvilias extended our contract by a year so we lost nothing nor did we have to pay anything extra. They must have been insured for hurricane damage. Our timeshare condo was damaged pretty bad as we saw it right after but the first floor was even worse. The waves went as high up as the third floor.
 
Sort of hate to admit it, but we pulled the plug. Although the resort (Villa del Palmar) says they are open with minimal damage, using a generator for power I'm guessing means no A/C, and mold will probably be rampant. Not to messy beach, closed favorite restaurants, etc.

We used Interval to swap out our Cabo rooms for Puerto Vallarta, and United was very nice (as in no charge) in swapping our flight for Oct. 11 from Cabo to PV.

We'll save Cabo for next year ;-)

Steve
 
Sort of hate to admit it, but we pulled the plug. Although the resort (Villa del Palmar) says they are open with minimal damage, using a generator for power I'm guessing means no A/C, and mold will probably be rampant. Not to messy beach, closed favorite restaurants, etc.

We used Interval to swap out our Cabo rooms for Puerto Vallarta, and United was very nice (as in no charge) in swapping our flight for Oct. 11 from Cabo to PV.

We'll save Cabo for next year ;-)

Steve
Great that you could do this. A resort with multiple locations has an advantage that you can go to another location. :)
 
Well according to worldmark's home page the Coral Baja is not accepting guests until January 31st. We are booked for Christmas. Got a great deal on airfare and our resort is next door to where my daughter's best friend (who lives in another city now) stays. So my questions are should I still go? Any resorts I should look for? We were booked Tuesday to Thursday to get the best airfare and I won't find that in another timeshare. Ugh first family vacation in 3 years and I really don't want to cancel. At least I have a lot of time to sort this out. So main question what resorts are in good shape and do any check in from any day of the week?

Joan:(
 
Great that you could do this. A resort with multiple locations has an advantage that you can go to another location. :)

Actually it was WAY more complicated than that :D

Our first week in Cabo was using our owners week with UVC and the 2nd was from an Interval trade using the 2nd leg of an E-Plus exchange.

We had been planning to go to PV next year anyway, so had an active on-going deposit first trade request in for a favorite resort there a year from now, and then would figure out our second week once that trade went through.

So, 1st we cancelled our owners week at Cabo for Oct. 11th and rolled the points to next year for use 'wherever'. Then we cancelled the trade request for next year at PV and used it to book week #1 in PV. We still had an un-used Marriott week on deposit with Interval, so we used it to trade for PV week #2.

Phew! :whoopie:

I'm not exaggerating when I say that between checking room availability in Playa del Carmen, PV and Cancun, calling Interval and UVC to see what they could do to help, and calling United a couple of times, it literally took us close to 5 hours...thank goodness we're retired. :banana: I didn't get out of my PJ's until 2pm :rofl:

Steve
 
Just contacted RCI and they will exchange our week in Cabo to Mazatlan with no charge but Alaska AA. wants an addition 550.00 to change for wife and I. :(

Everything MIGHT be fine by Nov 3rd but who knows.
 
Pueblo Bonito Report from Facebook

Update from PB Members page:
-Attention Family, Friends and Fans-

Once again, thank you so much for all of your support. We are moved by all the warm words and offers for help we have received. We would like to reiterate that all of the guests and employees at our hotels are doing well. Thanks to our backup generators and to our company’s water plant, we have been able to provide food and water to everyone, as well as provide power at all Pueblo Bonito resorts. We would also like to repeat the fact that there was no structural damage at the resorts; only cosmetic damages and a substantial accumulation of debris.


The evacuation process has been scheduled as follows: all guests at Pueblo Bonito Pacifica are being evacuated today. Tomorrow another 700 guests will be evacuated, all from Pueblo Bonito Los Cabos (Blanco) and Pueblo Bonito Rosé. Guests at Pueblo Bonito Sunset Beach will be evacuated over the course of two days: Thursday and Friday.

Evacuees will be flying to Mexico City, Guadalajara, Tijuana and Mazatlan so that they can get connecting flights from those cities to return home.

Cell phone service was restored to the destination today, and there is now WIFI service at our Pacifica and Sunset Beach resorts. Please try to contact with your loved ones via these methods of communication.

If everything goes well for the destination, all of our resorts, including the Pueblo Bonito Pacifica, Sunset Beach, Los Cabos, Rose and Montecristo Estates properties will be ready to receive guests starting October 1st

For guests scheduled to arrive in Los Cabos between September 17th and September 30th please reschedule for a later date or change your plans and visit one of our Mazatlan resorts. If you need to cancel your reservation, Pueblo Bonito Resorts will not charge any fees. Please make changes to your reservation by contacting the channel through which the reservation was booked (Pueblo Bonito Reservations, Travel-Agent, RCI, etc).

We continue to ask for your patience, and appreciate it greatly. We will keep working hard to provide you with the most current information, so please continue to check back with us for further updates.
 
I don't know if it's a record, but in the roughly 60 hours this thread has been live, over 30,000 views of it have been logged. Over 500 per hour. I think that the Mexican government, an the people of the Los Cabos area will work tirelessly to clean up the damage and get back to normal as quickly as possible. They will appreciate the support of the traveling public. That is the best way we can help. Just not right yet. Let the people there get the necessities like water, power, stores, airport up and running, and their own homes rebuilt. It won't happen overnight.


Jim
 
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Brief Update.

I am just now home in San Diego after enduring the rather trying evacuation process. Each resort was asked to evacuate their guests in waves today through Friday. The Grand Solmar struggled a bit, despite only having about 240 guests. They hand intended to use their own resort shuttles but encounter hours of difficulty this morning getting them fueled and up and running. It was 4:30pm by the time they were able to get us to the airport and there were hundreds of people in line and some airport officials suggesting we go back to the resort. Our small group of ten (the Grand ended up having to send half of us in van taxi's) decided we would wait it out and we fortunately got on flights to Tijuana. Staff did everything they could but the process itself was less than organized. The terminals are trashed so we largely waited out in the sun in lines after lines. Can't tell you how thankful we were to be on a plane.

I'll post a longer report once I'm rested tomorrow, but I wanted to advise anyone considering going down in the next 60 days to reschedule. The infrastructure in general is going to require quite a bit of work. This will add to the general difficulty of the various levels of rebuilding required at different resorts...I just don't think it's going to be a very pleasurable experience to be down there until later in the year. Passed an incredible amount of looting. Mega and Costco we're being completely ransacked. Lots of work to be done to get back to normal.
 
Brief Update.

I am just now home in San Diego after enduring the rather trying evacuation process. Each resort was asked to evacuate their guests in waves today through Friday. The Grand Solmar struggled a bit, despite only having about 240 guests. They hand intended to use their own resort shuttles but encounter hours of difficulty this morning getting them fueled and up and running. It was 4:30pm by the time they were able to get us to the airport and there were hundreds of people in line and some airport officials suggesting we go back to the resort. Our small group of ten (the Grand ended up having to send half of us in van taxi's) decided we would wait it out and we fortunately got on flights to Tijuana. Staff did everything they could but the process itself was less than organized. The terminals are trashed so we largely waited out in the sun in lines after lines. Can't tell you how thankful we were to be on a plane.

I'll post a longer report once I'm rested tomorrow, but I wanted to advise anyone considering going down in the next 60 days to reschedule. The infrastructure in general is going to require quite a bit of work. This will add to the general difficulty of the various levels of rebuilding required at different resorts...I just don't think it's going to be a very pleasurable experience to be down there until later in the year. Passed an incredible amount of looting. Mega and Costco we're being completely ransacked. Lots of work to be done to get back to normal.

I'm glad you're home and safe.

It's not surprising to me that things were disorganized and I hope others will heed your advice on staying away for a while.

The area depends on tourism to fuel it's economy and wants everyone back as soon as possible but the reality is, the locals and their businesses are not ready for an influx of tourists just yet when you consider they are trying hard to get people out.
 
Brief Update.

I am just now home in San Diego after enduring the rather trying evacuation process. Each resort was asked to evacuate their guests in waves today through Friday. The Grand Solmar struggled a bit, despite only having about 240 guests. They hand intended to use their own resort shuttles but encounter hours of difficulty this morning getting them fueled and up and running. It was 4:30pm by the time they were able to get us to the airport and there were hundreds of people in line and some airport officials suggesting we go back to the resort. Our small group of ten (the Grand ended up having to send half of us in van taxi's) decided we would wait it out and we fortunately got on flights to Tijuana. Staff did everything they could but the process itself was less than organized. The terminals are trashed so we largely waited out in the sun in lines after lines. Can't tell you how thankful we were to be on a plane.

I'll post a longer report once I'm rested tomorrow, but I wanted to advise anyone considering going down in the next 60 days to reschedule. The infrastructure in general is going to require quite a bit of work. This will add to the general difficulty of the various levels of rebuilding required at different resorts...I just don't think it's going to be a very pleasurable experience to be down there until later in the year. Passed an incredible amount of looting. Mega and Costco we're being completely ransacked. Lots of work to be done to get back to normal.

Glad that you got on the plane yesterday. It looks pretty bad down there. Welcome home.
 
Alaska changes travel dates for rescheduling

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...Lucas_Los_Cabos_Baja_California.html#61311061

Hurricane Odile Los Cabos, Mexico (SJD) September 14, 2014 September 14 - November 20, 2014 Change fees and difference in fare waived if new travel is booked in same cabin to Los Cabos, Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, Manzanillo, Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo, Guadalajara, or Mexico City and completed on or before December 20, 2014. Tickets must be exchanged or refunded by December 20, 2014

Guess their crews saw the destruction and told management to reevaluate their dates.
 
Ok, as promised, a bit of a more fulsome wrap up of my experience post the hurricane. (Apologies now if this is a bit long/verbose)

As I previously posted, we settled back into the Grand Solmar the day after the hurricane. Other than the lack of the pools and common areas, things were in pretty good shape. We had power, A/C, water and internet. There were less than 250 of us on the resort. Maids came and cleaned rooms. The main restaurant served a limited menu during regular meal times. There were dozens of workers cleaning up in various ways. Generally, I think most of us were rather complacent and figured we’d start to be able to leave in a day or two…

…things largely changed in the afternoon on Monday. Southwest Airlines seems to have been the first to report there was long-term damage to the airport. I went down to ask the hotel front desk what the plan was considering the airport would be closed for at least a week and they all had no idea and were also under the impression it would be back up in a day or two. I let them know about the Southwest notice and they said they’d try to get more information. We then went into town to check it out and buy some provisions. I posted those pics earlier. After returning we hopped back on the internet and try to make a plan for ourselves. I noticed I could buy a ticket out of La Paz to Tijuana for Wednesday and my friend and I discussed this option. However, we had no idea if/how we would get to La Paz, nor did we have any solid reports on the condition of that airport. We decided to wait to see if we could get more information…sadly this wouldn’t happen as we lost internet about 7:45pm on Monday. This is when things would really start to take a bit of a turn.

Without the internet, we (and the rest of Los Cabos) were cut off from the world and largely each other. There was still no cell service, no local news channels and the situation in downtown started to deteriorate. The lack of access to verifiable information also created a resort rumor mill, fueled by many people going back and forth to Playa. It seemed there was no plan, no information and no way to get any. About mid-day Tuesday, the Grand Solmar sent a staff member to the airport. She returned with news the military had already begun evacuating tourists from San Jose del Cabo and would mass evacuated everyone from Cabo San Lucas on Wednesday. This morphed into an evening meeting where we were told the resort didn’t know the scope of the evacuation yet and was meeting with officials later that evening. It may take 2 days to evacuate. Wednesday morning at 8:30am the story then became it would take three days and approximately 80 per day would be allowed to leave the resort. Each resort had a “reserved” number of seats on evacuation planes and we would not be able to go to the airport on our own. The first group of 80 would leave at 11:45am. We were actually not on the list for the first day evacuation, but ended up getting out as a result of 6 people chartering their own plane to take them to Mexico city (and basically by being tenacious, we ended up getting two of their spots).

The “evacuation” did not go particularly smoothly. Solmar was basically going to use all their resort shuttles to get people to the airport. We ended up sitting outside, on stairs and ledges for over 4 hours waiting for our shuttle to arrive. They had been stuck in traffic and gas station lines for hours. All the furniture in the arrival area had been stored for the hurricane, which staff eventually started to bring back out at about 3pm. At about this time, cell service started to come back on. The 80 of us were then gathered about 4pm to be told only one shuttle would make it to us and so only 40 would be sent. They prioritized the elderly and those with infants and children. After that bus left they told the other 40 of us we could go back to our rooms if we wanted. About 25 did, but we waited. At this point, I knew this was not a particularly organized system and I just had a feeling we shouldn’t move yet. Sure enough, about 15 minutes later the GM showed up and said they had been able to get ahold of several van taxis that were on their way and would take us.

The first two showed up and the 15-18 of us who had waited, piled in. A heated argument erupted between the GM and the driver of our taxi and we were then asked by the GM to get out. The taxi driver was charging triple and refused to be paid by the resort. The GM sent him on his way (as has been reported, lots of profiteering going on). We actually felt quite fortunate as the next van to arrive was bigger, newer, had amazing A/C and an amazing driver. He zipped us through town and quickly as he could. We passed the enormous amount of looting too quickly for me to get any pics. The worst traffic we hit was passing Costco as many had just parked right on the main road to get up there to get what they could. My commentary on the looting was that it wasn’t terribly violent. I am sure there are many that were not necessarily trying to take advantage of the situation, but knew there was no one to “buy” supplies from and if they didn’t take what they needed, there would be nothing for them to “buy” later on. It was a sad situation.

The devastation of the area was obviously widespread. Powerlines down everywhere. Resorts in varying degrees of destruction. Many cars stranded along the roads. Lines 40-50 cars deep at the few gas stations with fuel. The army presence was lighter than I expected and those who were there were basically just keeping the peace and allowing the general lawlessness and despair to go on (not a judgment on them at all…there were obviously not enough of them to do anything more). We actually arrived at the airport just as the last people on the Solmar shuttle were getting off. There was a line of 800 or so, out in the sun with no water or even makeshift shelter (thank goodness it was later in the day by now). Some officials were telling us to go back as by now it was after 5:30 and “only 4 more planes will be leaving…you will not get on a plane.” Given the effort to get out, our taxi of 10 decided we weren’t going anywhere, plopped into line and all got on planes. There were no lists, no seats reserved, no sign of any organization. Only a line.

We basically waited through two checkpoints to get into the airport. There was little “choice” on where you were going. We were fortunate that Tijuana just happened to be the next set of planes to be going when we go to the front. However, as we waited to board, officials did make announcement about random small sets of seats on planes to other destinations that some took advantage of to get to Mexico City or Mazatlan. This was largely thus luck of the draw. There was no security screening, we got on with our Gatorade and water! We were basically walked on the tarmac and up onto the planes via stairs. After a large group us boarded, the flight attendants took counts and then we waited some time for a few trickles of other people to fill our plane before we left (this explained the random announcements of sets of seats we had encountered earlier). Lots of cheering as we took off and were on our way to TJ. Once landed we hopped in a cab and were dropped to walk across the border. Nearly no lines at this hour and I couldn’t believe we were back in the US, just miles from home after everything the day and week had brought.

My commentary on a couple of things:

Grand Solmar
There will be MANY posts and reports on how amazing the staff is/was. I largely agree. Certainly the general staff was AMAZING. I am a bit more judgmental of upper management. There was no real contingency plan. No sense of urgency after the hurricane to figure out what the next steps would be. Very little communication. What appeared to be very little forethought. I expect the general staff to do the job they’ve been assigned to the best of their ability, and the Grand Solmar staff totally excelled here, going above and beyond in any way they could. For upper management, I expect them to be thinking about things like “Are our shuttles fueled,” “should we have an area prepared for people to wait in to board the shuttles,” “what will conditions be like at the airport?” “should we be starting early in the day (like 7/8am instead of nearly noon) to ensure our guests get on to planes?” “Will there be traffic and major delays to getting fuel,” “as Solmar, do we have relationships we can leverage to make this process better?” “how can we best communicate everything to our guests?” These sorts of questions and considerations seemed largely absent. I also found some management very curt with some guests who were distressed.

Los Cabos
It’s going to take quite some time to get things back to normal. The lack of power, water and infrastructure is going to delay rebuilding supplies getting in and the general ability to rebuild. Even once these basic things are restored, MANY resorts need extensive rebuilding. Even the Grand Solmar, who’s rooms largely just need a good cleaning, doesn’t expect to re-open for 4 weeks. Downtown is a complete mess and Medano beach is gone (it will come back). The level of overall rebuilding required is going to take months. I appreciate the sentiment about supporting the tourism economy down there, but I personally don’t think it’s a good idea to head down until the end of the year at the earliest.

Again, I’m so happy to have been kept safe and to be home. Know that those of you that adore Cabo, it will be back and likely better than ever. Everyone there was determined to get back on their feet and continue to make Cabo a great vacation destination.
 
Absolutely enlightening. I'm so glad you're back home. My friends are there and will be going through all you mentioned today. They are already encountering long lines and little information. The last I heard was an hour ago when she said she paid $10 for a van. That was the last I heard from them and I HOPE to God that the Van was going to take them to the airport.
 
Ok, as promised, a bit of a more fulsome wrap up of my experience post the hurricane. (Apologies now if this is a bit long/verbose)

No apology needed. That was a great post and we appreciate your observations and candidness.

Tenacious pays off at times :)

Steve
 
Thanks for the first hand report and glad that you got home safely. The residents are in for a long painful recovery. I hope they get the help they need.
 
Update from PB Members page:
-Attention Family, Friends and Fans-

Once again, thank you so much for all of your support. We are moved by all the warm words and offers for help we have received. We would like to reiterate that all of the guests and employees at our hotels are doing well. Thanks to our backup generators and to our company’s water plant, we have been able to provide food and water to everyone, as well as provide power at all Pueblo Bonito resorts. We would also like to repeat the fact that there was no structural damage at the resorts; only cosmetic damages and a substantial accumulation of debris.


The evacuation process has been scheduled as follows: all guests at Pueblo Bonito Pacifica are being evacuated today. Tomorrow another 700 guests will be evacuated, all from Pueblo Bonito Los Cabos (Blanco) and Pueblo Bonito Rosé. Guests at Pueblo Bonito Sunset Beach will be evacuated over the course of two days: Thursday and Friday.

Evacuees will be flying to Mexico City, Guadalajara, Tijuana and Mazatlan so that they can get connecting flights from those cities to return home.

Cell phone service was restored to the destination today, and there is now WIFI service at our Pacifica and Sunset Beach resorts. Please try to contact with your loved ones via these methods of communication.

If everything goes well for the destination, all of our resorts, including the Pueblo Bonito Pacifica, Sunset Beach, Los Cabos, Rose and Montecristo Estates properties will be ready to receive guests starting October 1st

For guests scheduled to arrive in Los Cabos between September 17th and September 30th please reschedule for a later date or change your plans and visit one of our Mazatlan resorts. If you need to cancel your reservation, Pueblo Bonito Resorts will not charge any fees. Please make changes to your reservation by contacting the channel through which the reservation was booked (Pueblo Bonito Reservations, Travel-Agent, RCI, etc).

We continue to ask for your patience, and appreciate it greatly. We will keep working hard to provide you with the most current information, so please continue to check back with us for further updates.

Some of this is true and some of it is a downright untruth. First of all, there was serious structural damage to two buildings at the Pueblo Bonito Sunset. In fact, those whose rooms were in those buildings had to be evacuated first since the buildings appeared to be falling down.

There's food if you can wait on long lines in the sun for it. And once you finally get into a restaurant food and water are rationed!

The evacuation is haphazardly arranged with folks standing in long lines just to get a group number to get on a bus.

My friends, who are 75+ have told me it's a zoo there and especially difficult with the randomness of their instructions.

As I just posted, she sent me a text an hour ago. She said she and her husband got into a van and paid the driver $10 just to avoid the LONG lines in front of PB Sunset. I don't know where she's going and I doubt she does either. I haven't heard from her since then.

I'm waiting here at home near my phone and computer to help her get out of wherever the military plane takes her. I can get her Home (to Newark) or Houston or Vancouver from Mexico City. To Mexico City from Guadalajara or Matzatlan. Then a change to a flight home from there. If she makes it to Tijuana I'll guess she can go to San Diego from there.

But, she has insisted on taking her 50 pound suitcase and her carry ons and I'm worried about her and him trying to manage on the Tarmac or across the bridge from Tijuana to the USA.
 
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Does anyone have any photos or other information on the extent of damages of the Westin Regina Los Cabos? Also, were any Tug members in Los Cabos during the hurricane?

My wife and I are owners at the Club Regina. We left Cabo the Saturday before the storm hit. The guests we had with us were supposed to fly out the Sunday after. Their flight got cancelled and they were forced to ride out the storm at the club. They finally made it back to the US late last night. They did share some photos with us of both the Club Regina and the Westin. I can't seem to upload them from my phone on here. I will say that it appears that the Westin suffered more extensive damage than the club Regina from what can be seen in photos. I will post what I have if I can figure out how to upload them.
 
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