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Boston Marathon Explosions

Now that the FBI has released the photos of the 'persons of interest', it's sure that other people will be looking at their own pictures and there will be more and of better resolution.

In the words of Ricky Ricardo, they 'got some 'splainin' to do', but remember they are not necessarily the perps.

Meanwhile, let's keep the many many injured foremost in our minds. Whether the people whose photos are being distributed are the killers or not, the injured will have months and years of therapy and medical problems and expenses that will be lifelong.

Jim
 
Now that the FBI has released the photos of the 'persons of interest', it's sure that other people will be looking at their own pictures and there will be more and of better resolution.

In the words of Ricky Ricardo, they 'got some 'splainin' to do', but remember they are not necessarily the perps.

Meanwhile, let's keep the many many injured foremost in our minds. Whether the people whose photos are being distributed are the killers or not, the injured will have months and years of therapy and medical problems and expenses that will be lifelong.

Jim

Jim, it is my understanding that these two individuals are considered "suspects" not "persons of interest". I have been at work and not following this story closely but from what I read, one can be seen on video placing a backpack at the site of the second explosion.

Of course it ain't over till its over. Suspects need to be caught and a case presented before a conclusion is drawn as to guilt vs innocence. But right now, these two are not just people the FBI wants to talk to. They are the guys that the FBI believes to have committed the crime.

H
 
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http://i.imgur.com/I1dF69f.jpg

http://postimg.org/image/k8wkdijgz/

It looks like the guy in the white hat running away from the blast site. He doesn't appear to have a backpack anymore. It might not be the same person but kind of looks like the guy in the white hat to me. He is on the left side of the picture. He looks very calm compared to the other people around him and isn't trying to hide his appearance like the guy in the black hat.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/34rsyfc.jpg

CNN's link with pics. http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/boston-blasts/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

So the guy with the black hat is trying to cover up his appearance but the guy in the white hat wants to be seen. Why wouldn't he disguise his appearance ? The black hat looks like a golf hat. http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/76/07/78/04/0076077804626_500X500.jpg
 
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Incredible how quickly that first photo has been plastered all over FaceBook and other sites. It appears that not only is Suspect #2 in it, Suspect #1 appears to be shortly behind him beside the woman in the pink jacket.

With Photoshop and so many wanting to be FIRST! with BEST! and all the misinformation that's been released from supposedly credible news organizations, I'm at the point where I'm doubting everything except what the FBI releases. It'll sure be interesting if this photo turns out to be real, no doubt, but I'm not taking it at face value without source authentication.
 
Well said, Persia. All life is special and I'm glad people are not presuming any ties to the Middle East. We have home grown terrorists, too. Just look at the Oklahoma City attack.
 
Jim, it is my understanding that these two individuals are considered "suspects" not "persons of interest".
H

'Persons of Interest' was my term. I had heard the term 'suspects' at the FBI briefing where they were released. I used the less accusatory term in deference to (1) Richard Jewell, the 'Olympic Bomber' in Atlanta who was accused and everyone was sure of his guilt. Except he wasn't the guy. And it wrecked the accused guy's life for a long time. and (b) I still feel that one is innocent until a court proves him guilty. Not the press- or even the FBI.

Sorry if my use of the slightly less pejorative term wasn't accurate.

I hope the net closes around the ones who planned, constructed and placed those devices- and then the noose closes around their necks with the same amount of mercy they showed to their victims.

Jim
 
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Local news is reporting gunfire and a "very very large police presence of heavily armed officers" at MIT and at two other nearby sites, a T station and the bridge over the Charles ...

Something seems to be happening.

{eta} Just announced by State Police: an MIT police officer is suffering life-threatening injuries after being shot on campus around 10:30, no suspects in custody. The affected T station is the one at Mass General Hospital where the victim was taken, the bridge is the Longfellow.

{eta2} Wow, if these reports are true it's really incredible what they're doing. Police armed with shotguns and machine guns are standing at the entrance/exit to the Charles MGH T station. All red line trains are being stopped before entering the station, with multiple heavily-armed officers entering every car and questioning every rider. There's at least one state police helicopter lighting up the scenes and a ton of officers and K-9 units searching both sides of the Charles. MIT, Boston, Cambridge, Somerville and State police agencies are involved along with FBI and other unidentified federal orgs. Amazing effort, amazing live footage.

{eta3} Report that the MIT Officer has died from his injuries; he was shot while responding to a disturbance.
 
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Local news is reporting gunfire and a "very very large police presence of heavily armed officers" at MIT and at two other nearby sites, a T station and the bridge over the Charles ...

Something seems to be happening.

{eta} Just announced by State Police: an MIT police officer is suffering life-threatening injuries after being shot on campus around 10:30, no suspects in custody. The affected T station is the one at Mass General Hospital where the victim was taken, the bridge is the Longfellow.

{eta2} Wow, if these reports are true it's really incredible what they're doing. Police armed with shotguns and machine guns are standing at the entrance/exit to the Charles MGH T station. All red line trains are being stopped before entering the station, with multiple heavily-armed officers entering every car and questioning every rider. There's at least one state police helicopter lighting up the scenes and a ton of officers and K-9 units searching both sides of the Charles. MIT, Boston, Cambridge, Somerville and State police agencies are involved along with FBI and other unidentified federal orgs. Amazing effort, amazing live footage.

Thanks for posting these updates Sue. We are getting zero information out here in California. Zip.

H
 
Turn on CNN - they have the same news.
 
Reports from Watertown, Upland Road and Dexter? A station reporter is hunkered down behind a police car and says there are multiple gunshots with police running all over the area. He sounds terrified. Something about a bank robbery with shots fired there ...

They just showed about twenty police cars parked in front of MGH take off lightning fast with screaming sirens.

(I'm watching Local Channel 7, WHDH, which is probably live streaming on the web.)

{eta} Same reporter, moved now about two blocks away, he says he can't confirm it officially but the police have backed off a suspect very quickly and are yelling at everyone to "get back" and "get inside." He says he heard a firefighter say, "hand grenade," but again, not official and he sounds like he's under tremendous pressure. No confirmation that this is related to MGH/MIT, no confirmation that any of it is connected to the Marathon.

But I hope all of this is related because otherwise this city isn't going to be able to keep up this level of police activity in response to every incident. Pray for these police, they're being tested like never before.

{eta2} Same reporter, says a "large, armored vehicle" has just moved into the area and many more heavily-armed police came out the back doors. Still pics coming from the scene now in Watertown, Mt. Auburn St., area is mixed residential and commercial. Tons of police vehicles, ambulances ... news anchors are advising if you live there to stay in your homes away from the windows.

{eta3} Right now, 1:28, they're showing live video feed of a suspect lying face-down in the street, arms outstretched and legs crossed, with multiple officers drawing weapons on him from about twenty feet away. The anchors are speculating, with NO confirmation, that he may have live explosives strapped to himself which would explain why the officers are backed off.

I'm terrified watching this, can't imagine what it must be like for the officers onsite. The few faces they're showing are all business.

A couple minutes later, quite confusing now. Don't know if that suspect is still on the ground but they're moving back further still after an explosion was heard down the street. Same time, an ambulance is slowly being driven away.
 
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About a mile away from MIT: Now they have a young man spread eagle in the street at gun point (on camera) but they are worried about hand grenades (?) so no one is getting very close.

Reports that they took another man into custody, and they made him strip naked before they put him in the police car.

Reports of a shoot out before this happened.

The man on the ground looks like he is the right "type" to be the stocky suspect in that had on a dark hat.

Reports that the 2 suspects hijacked a car after the police shooting at MIT.
 
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Just showed two officials walking under the police tape onto the scene, "FBI" on one coat and "US Diplomatic Corp" on the other. No explanation.

(Denise, are you riveted? I can't look away. Don't want to sensationalize it any more than what's warranted and am trying to just write what's happening. It's fascinating.)
 
Very confusing still. So far, unconfirmed reports - the two suspects from the Marathon bombing were involved in an armed robbery tonight, then the MIT cop was shot responding to a disturbance, then a Mercedes was carjacked and eventually police caught up to it in Watertown. They've shown live feed of the guy on the ground with no follow-up to that yet, live feed of a "controlled detonation" at the scene, and a still photo of a suspect being apprehended, possibly shot, just beside the open driver's side door of the Mercedes. They're saying that one suspect is still being sought.
 
From the NY Times

Explosives Detonated in Massachusetts Standoff
By RAVI SOMAIYA
Two young men, armed with guns and explosives in what appeared to be backpacks, engaged in a violent standoff with dozens of police on a street in Watertown, Mass., Thursday night, a resident said.

Andrew Kitzenburg, 29, said he looked out of this third floor window to see two young men of slight build in jackets shooting at dozens of police officers from behind a black Mercedes SUV. The officers and the men were 70 yards apart, he said, and engaged in “constant gunfire.”

A police SUV “drove towards the shooters,” he said, and was shot at until it was severely damaged. It rolled out of control, Mr. Kitzenberg said, and crashed into two cars in his driveway.

The two shooters, he said, had a large and unwieldy bomb. “They lit it, still in the middle of the gunfire, and threw it. But it went 20 yards at most.” It exploded, he said, and one of the two men ran towards the gathered police officers. He was tackled, but it was not clear if he was shot, Mr. Kitzenberg said.

The other, he said, got back into the SUV, turned it toward the officers and “put the pedal to the metal.” The car “went right through the cops, broke right through and continued west.”

The two men left “a few backpacks right by the car, and there is a bomb robot out there now.” Police had told residents to stay away from their windows, he said.

The standoff came within hours of an incident at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in which a campus police officer was shot and killed.

The officer, who was not named, responded to a report of a disturbance near Vassar and Main Streets, the Middlesex County District Attorney Michael Pelgro said in a statement early Friday. He was found, the statement said with “multiple gunshot wounds” and taken to Massachusetts General Hospital where he was pronounced dead.

M.I.T. said in an update on its campus alert Web site after midnight that the “shooter remains at large, police continue to search the campus,” and asked students to stay indoors until further notice.

At the campus, helicopters whirred overhead, and police cars were dotted through the streets. A crime scene was cordoned off, and at least one dog unit was on the scene.

The two incidents came as the area was already on edge following the bombings at the Boston Marathon on Monday.
 
"One of these two suspects has been shot and killed, the other is still on the run." That's from a "credible source" (whatever that means considering yesterday's awful reporting.)

Now they're backing off saying the guy on the ground is a "suspect," he may just be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think it's because he's a third figure with the one in the picture beside the Mercedes and the one still on the run.
 
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Boston Globe is reporting--unconfirmed--that the person in custody is one of the two people wanted in the Marathon Bombing, and they believe the other one is still in the area. If true, that would explain the presence of so many police, FBI, etc.

Fern
 
Unconfirmed reports now that the suspect (black capped suspect) in custoday has died at the hospital. Lots of unclear information coming in from everywhere.

Developing situation, ongoing manhunt too close for comfort.

Synopsis:

MIT campus officer shot & killed, carjacking, pursuit and shots fired with explosives being thrown in Watertown, MBTA police officer shot and in critical condition , the second suspect (white capped one) being hunted. Asking Watertown residents to stay inside their homes.







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My work just called and as we are in Cambridge, we are closed today.



 
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Our thoughts and prayers are with all of you in the area.
 
It looks like there are two brothers originally from Chechnya that are being called the perps. One is 26 and the other is 19. This is almost surreal and seems more like an episode of 24.

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http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...lled-another-on-the-run/Article1-1046916.aspx

A US law enforcement official and the uncle of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings are confirming that the name of the second suspect is Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older brother of Dzhokhar A Tsarnaev, 19. Tamerlan Tsarnaev was killed in a gun battle with police in Massachusetts overnight.

Three law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the ongoing investigation, confirmed the bomb suspects were brothers. One of the officials and the men's uncle confirmed the identity of Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
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More than 1 mil people urged to stay indoors in #Boston area as #manhunt for #BostonBombing suspect continues http://on.msnbc.com/10n9DMH

This last tweet saying that 1 million people from Boston are now on lock down is almost like saying Boston is closed today. It would take a very large force to secure that many people.


Bill
 
Just got a email from our Cambridge office that it's closed today due to lockdown and transportation shut down in Boston area. We are keeping our fingers crossed that everyone will be safe and pertetrator(s) apprehended soon.
 
I watched up until 4AM and then got right back to it about 8AM. What's happening on the streets of my city is incomprehensible. The bravery from all the police agencies is overwhelming.

What's happening on twitter and facebook and other online mediums is making my blood boil, making me wonder if there are more radical American extremists, teetering just this side of sanity, than I ever considered. It's very distressing.

At least two people have been un-officially called out as suspects in online mediums, a Revere High School student and a Brown University student who has been missing for several weeks now (with the FBI involved in his disappearance.) It's astounding that so many were willing and eager to go there after the lesson we learned from the Atlanta Olympics debacle.

Thank you for this safe place where all the hurtful craziness isn't allowed to stand, and which gives us a means to ramble on. Stay safe, everyone. Be well.
 
It looks like there are two brothers originally from Chechnya that are being called the perps. One is 26 and the other is 19. This is almost surreal and seems more like an episode of 24.

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Saw the uncle talking on TV, think he was very brave in making his statements to the media.
 
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