Booking weeks at 13 months

[Krebsie]

I own multiple Marriott weeks at the same resort, and I understood that to mean I could reserve my dates at 13 months out. Marriott is telling me this morning that only works if you reserve 2 or more weeks. I wanted to reserve only one week today, so she tells me that because it's not 2 or more, I'm back to 12 months. Is that correct?

I thought at presidential level … you can book one week 13 months out?

 

[Fasttr]

I thought at presidential level … you can book one week 13 months out?

Points vs Weeks systems.

 

[heitmullerj02]

Has anyone had this problem with the Sheraton/Marriot merge? Last January I got 2 reservations for my Vistana week, one for 2022 and 23, in January. Not my doing . I spoke to Sheraton who said, just a glitch in the merge, disregard. So I did.Now Vistana thinks I’m there in Orlando, not sure if I lost my week or not and they can’t tell me!

 

[Mulege]

Willl Vistana Elite owners be able to book 13 months out under the new program? Anywhere or just Home Resort?

 

[dioxide45]

Willl Vistana Elite owners be able to book 13 months out under the new program? Anywhere or just Home Resort?

Only at Marriott properties using Abound Club Points.

 

[Bird01]

Good thread. My question is: When will we (if at all) be able to book consecutive weeks at 13 months using both Vistana weeks and Marriott weeks (not points)?

 

[sponger76]

Good thread. My question is: When will we (if at all) be able to book consecutive weeks at 13 months using both Vistana weeks and Marriott weeks (not points)?

Don't see that happening on the Vistana side.

 

[dioxide45]

Good thread. My question is: When will we (if at all) be able to book consecutive weeks at 13 months using both Vistana weeks and Marriott weeks (not points)?

I doubt you ever will.

 

[Dean]

Good thread. My question is: When will we (if at all) be able to book consecutive weeks at 13 months using both Vistana weeks and Marriott weeks (not points)?

They are still separate systems under one umbrella. Unless they are completely combined, which I doubt will ever happen, I don't see this as an option.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

I own multiple Marriott weeks at the same resort, and I understood that to mean I could reserve my dates at 13 months out. Marriott is telling me this morning that only works if you reserve 2 or more weeks. I wanted to reserve only one week today, so she tells me that because it's not 2 or more, I'm back to 12 months. Is that correct?

Like you, I own two white units in Palm Desert and was on the phone bright and early on Oct 17 in order to reserve Thanksgiving (TDI = 125 or 130). In my case I reserved both and did a split, resulting in 4 reservations. I'm planning on using all of these res's for exchanging so I wanted the highest TDI.

Something that you might consider for next year, if you want to use the 13 month window and - - in essence - - deposit a "composite" unit. That is, reserve the efficiency in one unit and the 1 BR in another unit for either concurrent or consecutive dates at the 13 month point. I think that'll work.

In fact, you might call Marriottvacation club now to see if there were any cancellations from last week. Sometimes people book and then, for some reason, cancel.

 

[10spro]

Like you, I own two white units in Palm Desert and was on the phone bright and early on Oct 17 in order to reserve Thanksgiving (TDI = 125 or 130). In my case I reserved both and did a split, resulting in 4 reservations. I'm planning on using all of these res's for exchanging so I wanted the highest TDI.

The mistake I made is booking 2 of the weeks in June, which is a crappy TDI BTW but I needed something to trade, and now wanting to book my third week for Thanksgiving. I didn't realize the 13 months only applied when booking 2 or more weeks, regardless of overall ownership. I've got another shot for Thanksgiving in a couple weeks at 12 months.

 

[SueDonJ]

Like you, I own two white units in Palm Desert and was on the phone bright and early on Oct 17 in order to reserve Thanksgiving (TDI = 125 or 130). In my case I reserved both and did a split, resulting in 4 reservations. I'm planning on using all of these res's for exchanging so I wanted the highest TDI.

Something that you might consider for next year, if you want to use the 13 month window and - - in essence - - deposit a "composite" unit. That is, reserve the efficiency in one unit and the 1 BR in another unit for either concurrent or consecutive dates at the 13 month point. I think that'll work.

In fact, you might call Marriottvacation club now to see if there were any cancellations from last week. Sometimes people book and then, for some reason, cancel.

The 13-mos Weeks Reservation Window shouldn't work if you're trying to book the separate components from a single lock-off Week, because the primary rule is that multiple owned Weeks must be used. There've been two or three rare reports to TUG that it has worked but most likely, such a request will be rejected.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

The 13-mos Weeks Reservation Window shouldn't work if you're trying to book the separate components from a single lock-off Week, because the primary rule is that multiple owned Weeks must be used. There've been two or three rare reports to TUG that it has worked but most likely, such a request will be rejected.

@SueDonJ, you are correct that you can't use the 13 month rule for a SINGLE lock off week. But in my earlier post I was wondering about using part of deeded week A and part of deeded week B (two separate ownerships).

I got onto the Marriott site and looked for the "rules". I couldn't find the detailed rules, so I went into a chat session. I transferred from the automated computer to a real live human. I asked if I could book a partial unit in each of two separate timeshares at the 13 month point. From the delay in answering and a comment from her, I think that she either had to look it up or had to go to a supervisor. Here is what Berenice V wrote: " Correct, for example you would have to book week DS*9999*22*X and DS*8888*45*B, either full or lock-off placing consecutive or concurrent reservations in the 13 month window."

So, it isn't impossible that the Marriott rep made a mistake, but assuming that she was correct, it looks like if you use two different deeded units that you don't have to reserve the full units but could reserve part of one and part of the other as long as the res's were concurrent or consecutive.

I wonder where I could get a hold of the Marriott fine-print on their rules?

 

[SueDonJ]

@SueDonJ, you are correct that you can't use the 13 month rule for a SINGLE lock off week. But in my earlier post I was wondering about using part of deeded week A and part of deeded week B (two separate ownerships).

I got onto the Marriott site and looked for the "rules". I couldn't find the detailed rules, so I went into a chat session. I transferred from the automated computer to a real live human. I asked if I could book a partial unit in each of two separate timeshares at the 13 month point. From the delay in answering and a comment from her, I think that she either had to look it up or had to go to a supervisor. Here is what Berenice V wrote: " Correct, for example you would have to book week DS*9999*22*X and DS*8888*45*B, either full or lock-off placing consecutive or concurrent reservations in the 13 month window."

So, it isn't impossible that the Marriott rep made a mistake, but assuming that she was correct, it looks like if you use two different deeded units that you don't have to reserve the full units but could reserve part of one and part of the other as long as the res's were concurrent or consecutive.

I wonder where I could get a hold of the Marriott fine-print on their rules?

I'm sorry, I completely misunderstood your post, somehow read it as using the two components from a single owned Week at the 13-mos window. DOH!

What you're saying here, that the 13-mos window could be used to book lock-off components from two different Weeks, is correct. Again, my apologies for getting it wrong.

I don't know if the rules as they're implemented today are written anywhere! When the 13-mos window was introduced, which was after several resorts were already well-established, they were implemented much differently (for one example, only Weeks from the same resort could be used) but as time has gone on and the governing docs of newer resorts expanded the scope of the 13-mos window with less strict interpretation, the rules evolved to what's fairly-well understood today by reps and owners. The 13-mos window still raises questions from owners new to using it and occasionally you come across a rep who's confused by it, but for the most part the unwritten rules are the norm.

 

[Dean]

I wonder where I could get a hold of the Marriott fine-print on their rules?

I don't think they've ever published the details, at least externally. It really wouldn't matter that much anyway since they could change it tomorrow and again the next day if they wanted.

One thing that some have said in the past, that is incorrect as far as I can tell, is that consecutive weeks in a string can't be from the same owned week. That has not been my experience on many many situations.

A few months ago we saw a group of people who were told they had to make all reservations at one time to use this option. That has not been my experience in the past but obviously things could change. Anyone have any recent experience on this issue.

 

[chanakya]

Great thread this.

Say if one has 3 Marriott weeks. Can you book 1 week 13 months out, and 2 weeks (13 months + 1 week) out as long as the reserved weeks are consecutive/concurrent, and they all are in eligible seasons?

 

[dioxide45]

Great thread this.

Say if one has 3 Marriott weeks. Can you book 1 week 13 months out, and 2 weeks *14 months* out as long as the reserved weeks are consecutive/concurrent, and they all are in eligible seasons?

Week 1 (1 unit)
Week 2 (2 units)

More generally, if I have N weeks, could you book a week that is (N-1) +13 weeks out?

If week 2 in your question is a lock off, what you can do is book week 1 then lock off and book one half of week 2 and the other half of week 3 all consecutively. Technically the third reservation would be getting booked at 13 months + 2 weeks out.

 

[dioxide45]

Where do I go on the MVC website to request a 13 month reservation? I am coming on when we can make our 2024 reservations and I am not trying to book anything earth shattering so the online request process should be fine. I poked around on the website and couldn't find where you request a 13 month reservation. Perhaps it is because I am still outside my booking window and you is an option in the reservation flow process?

 

[chanakya]

If week 2 in your question is a lock off, what you can do is book week 1 then lock off and book one half of week 2 and the other half of week 3 all consecutively. Technically the third reservation would be getting booked at 13 months + 2 weeks out.

Interesting. I didn't realize that lock-off units can be used this way.

Just so I understand this correctly. Say, I have two 2-BR lockoff units (A and B). A locks off into A-1 and A-2. B into B-1/B-2.

Can I reserve the following 2024 weeks at 45th week (49-4) of this year (2023)?

Week 49: A-1
Week 50: A-2
Week 51: B-1
Week 52: B-2

 

[igopogo]

Where do I go on the MVC website to request a 13 month reservation? I am coming on when we can make our 2024 reservations and I am not trying to book anything earth shattering so the online request process should be fine. I poked around on the website and couldn't find where you request a 13 month reservation. Perhaps it is because I am still outside my booking window and you is an option in the reservation flow process?

I believe you have to call in for 13 month reservations.

 

[DanCali]

Interesting. I didn't realize that lock-off units can be used this way.

Just so I understand this correctly. Say, I have two 2-BR lockoff units (A and B). A locks off into A-1 and A-2. B into B-1/B-2.

Can I reserve the following 2024 weeks at 45th week (49-4) of this year (2023)?

Week 49: A-1
Week 50: A-2
Week 51: B-1
Week 52: B-2

The first reservation has to be at 13 months out so yes, it'd be at week 45.

I don't know that you can book how you described given what was said in post 37, but I think you can do:

Week 49: A-1
Week 50: B-1 or B-2
Week 51: A-2
Week 52: B-2 or B-1

Which should get you the same result if all are at the same resort (and season).

 

[DanCali]

Where do I go on the MVC website to request a 13 month reservation? I am coming on when we can make our 2024 reservations and I am not trying to book anything earth shattering so the online request process should be fine. I poked around on the website and couldn't find where you request a 13 month reservation. Perhaps it is because I am still outside my booking window and you is an option in the reservation flow process?

It's after you select the week and usage year under "Reserve Week". You don't have to be in your booking window to get this screen. Once you select, the next step is a text box to write a message with your request and send it.

 

[chanakya]

@DanCali Thanks, that makes sense. So consecutive weeks should be from different week ownerships.

 

[dioxide45]

Interesting. I didn't realize that lock-off units can be used this way.

Just so I understand this correctly. Say, I have two 2-BR lockoff units (A and B). A locks off into A-1 and A-2. B into B-1/B-2.

Can I reserve the following 2024 weeks at 45th week (49-4) of this year (2023)?

Week 49: A-1
Week 50: A-2
Week 51: B-1
Week 52: B-2

No, you would call in on the reservation window for week 49 to make the reservation for all four of those weeks.

 

[chanakya]

No, you would call in on the reservation window for week 49 to make the reservation for all four of those weeks.

The reservation window for week 49, 13 month out, would be week 45, right?