Bluegreen points and fee information

[Dennyha]

Wanted to update the Bluegreen fees for Trust Fund E.

Base = $373
Club Dues = $179
Points = (# of points) X $0.0985

MF is the sum of Base + Points.
Total annual obligation is Base + Points + Club Dues

 

[tschwa2]

My old links to the Bluegreen rci crossover grid don't work anymore. Can someone either provide a working link or a copy of the chart.

 

[GrayFal]

My old links to the Bluegreen rci crossover grid don't work anymore. Can someone either provide a working link or a copy of the chart.

Sorry, I couldn’t find one

in general

studio 8-10K
1BR 11-13K
2BR 18/20-22K

 

[Pillowcrave]

So are the dues for bluegreen on top of your maintenance fees? Are they an additional mandatory charge on top of maintenance fees?
Also are resale points limited in how and where you can use them?

 

[hcarman]

So are the dues for bluegreen on top of your maintenance fees? Are they an additional mandatory charge on top of maintenance fees?
Also are resale points limited in how and where you can use them?

There are club dues and maintenance fees which apparently are about .98 a point now in Trust Fund E. Restrictions for buying resale are not getting premier benefits and not being able to use bonus time at all of the resorts.

 

[GrayFal]

To add to what @hcarman said, resale points (currently) can be used at any Bluegreen resort at 11 months out. There are no (current) restrictions.

With the purchase by Hilton, any if the bells and whistles can change but not the basic points usage.

 

[Pillowcrave]

Thank you so much!

 

[GrayFal]

2025 maint fees
95% of points are in trust fund E

Wanted to update the Bluegreen fees for Trust Fund E.

Base = $373
Club Dues = $184
Points = (# of points) X $0.1052

MF is the sum of Base + Points.
Total annual obligation is Base + Points + Club Dues

 

[TUGBrian]

can you bluegreen experts give me a quick rundown on the following so we can update the comparison chart?

Typical 2br High Season point value? and mf for those points (though i guess i can just multiply that by .1052! )

typical 2br low season point value?

 

[GrayFal]

can you bluegreen experts give me a quick rundown on the following so we can update the comparison chart?

Typical 2br High Season point value? and mf for those points (though i guess i can just multiply that by .1052! )

typical 2br low season point value?

Yes, multiply x point value plus base fee/club dues. The more points you own, the less the overall per point cost.

BG in many ways is like Wyndham; as they add new resorts they keep raising the points required for the new resort but the old point charts remain the same.
Example: Branson
Big Cedar in July/summer high time 15-18K 2BR .
Paradise Point 24-27K
Newest - Branson Cedar 35-37K

You do the math!

 

[TUGBrian]

whats a good example of low demand 2br?

 

[GrayFal]

whats a good example of low demand 2br?

Example: Branson High/Low 2BR

Falls Village - 12K low 8K

Big Cedar - 15-18K low 6K

Paradise Point - 24-27K low 10K

The Cliffs at Long Creek - 29K low 18K

Branson Cedar - 35-37K low 20K

So low at Branson Cedar is 20K, more than HIGH at Big Cedar.

No rhyme or reason just greed in play.

Think of all the giveaway contracts we see on here where people were sold 8K points - where the heck are they going with that ridiculous number of points???

 

[GrayFal]

While looking at TUGs BG info page I came upon this chart. Yikes!

2024/25 Costs
Base = $373
Club Dues = $184
Points = (# of points) X $0.1052

 

[TUGBrian]

will have to update that too!

ive little to no experience with bg ownerships, but i think we can probably throw out the brand new resort as it ruins the curve for everything else =D

if that was removed from the matrix, do the remaining bg resorts fall more in line with a 25-27k high range, and 6 to 10k low range?

I note that in the previous article we compared 25k bluegreen points to 300,000 wyndham points. and 300k wyndham points is certainly "higher" than our current high listing of 20x,000 points?

perhaps 205 wyndham points would equate to 16-20k bluegreen points? ie enough to get you MOST 2br units in high season?

 

[TUGBrian]

i just downloaded the 2024 points guide (and updated that post with it)

and yes I frequently remember lots and lots of 8k bg points ownerships listed for sale/giveaway! I figured it was the entry level package similar to 80/90k wyndham points!

 

[GrayFal]

will have to update that too!

ive little to no experience with bg ownerships, but i think we can probably throw out the brand new resort as it ruins the curve for everything else =D

if that was removed from the matrix, do the remaining bg resorts fall more in line with a 25-27k high range, and 6 to 10k low range?

I note that in the previous article we compared 25k bluegreen points to 300,000 wyndham points. and 300k wyndham points is certainly "higher" than our current high listing of 20x,000 points?

perhaps 205 wyndham points would equate to 16-20k bluegreen points? ie enough to get you MOST 2br units in high season?

You really can't throw it out as there are many more examples just like this one. I was just using Branson as an example because there are 5 BG resorts there; I gave you three.
And I didn't even touch on the Presidential units.

A studio week at Manhattan Club is 32-35K
Hotel room Hotel Blake in Chicago high season 21-23K
La Cabana Studio high season 7-9K (old resort)
Savannah Georgia 2BR high 21K
The old Marriott now New BG Streamside at Vail 1BR slp 4 31K
1BR loft slp 6/8 40K Presidential 1BR slp 4 50K

 

[GrayFal]

@TUGBrian "perhaps 205 wyndham points would equate to 16-20k bluegreen points? ie enough to get you MOST 2br units in high season?"

Afraid not. BG points are all over the place depending on when they came into the program. I will add the other two Brandon Resies to make that point.
If anything, 16-20K will get very few 2BR high season.

 

[TUGBrian]

@TUGBrian "perhaps 205 wyndham points would equate to 16-20k bluegreen points? ie enough to get you MOST 2br units in high season?"

Afraid not. BG points are all over the place depending on when they came into the program. I will add the other two Brandon Resies to make that point.
If anything, 16-20K will get very few 2BR high season.

ok, if you were buying. what point level would you buy into that would net you "most 2br reservations during high season"? 25k? 30?

the mf for that much is getting into the staggeringly high levels to compare to the point values for even wyndham and worldmark?

 

[GrayFal]

the mf for that much is getting into the staggeringly high levels to compare to the point values for even wyndham and worldmark?

Exactly, "staggeringly high" is correct.
25K is over $3,000.
The value is no longer there.
You can rent at many resorts for less than what it costs owners in maintenance fees let alone adding in purchase price/loan payments.

20-25K for a 2BR high season 6-7 days (possible)

 

[Dennyha]

So if I currently have a 6000 point contract, and want to add a 5000 resale contract, my incremental costs would be 5000 X .1052, or $526? The $373 base would not be applicable again?
Thanks

 

[Dennyha]

So if I currently have a 6000 point contract, and want to add a 5000 resale contract, my incremental costs would be 5000 X .1052, or $526? The $373 base would not be applicable again?
Thanks

Anybody?

 

[GrayFal]

Anybody?

As long as they are in the same trust, then yes, just the per point fee.

 

[Dennyha]

As long as they are in the same trust, then yes, just the per point fee.

Thank you. I wasn’t sure