• Welcome to the FREE TUGBBS forums! The absolute best place for owners to get help and advice about their timeshares for more than 32 years!

    Join Tens of Thousands of other owners just like you here to get any and all Timeshare questions answered 24 hours a day!
  • TUG started 32 years ago in October 1993 as a group of regular Timeshare owners just like you!

    Read about our 32nd anniversary: Happy 32nd Birthday TUG!
  • TUG has a YouTube Channel to produce weekly short informative videos on popular Timeshare topics!

    All subscribers auto-entered to win all free TUG membership giveaways!

    Visit TUG on Youtube!
  • TUG has now saved timeshare owners more than $24,000,000 dollars just by finding us in time to rescind a new Timeshare purchase! A truly incredible milestone!

    Read more here: TUG saves owners more than $24 Million dollars
  • Wish you could meet up with other TUG members? Well look no further as this annual event has been going on for years in Orlando! How to Attend the TUG January Get-Together!
  • Now through the end of the year you can join or renew your TUG membership at the lowest price ever offered! Learn More!
  • Sign up to get the TUG Newsletter for free!

    Tens of thousands of subscribing owners! A weekly recap of the best Timeshare resort reviews and the most popular topics discussed by owners!
  • Our official "end my sales presentation early" T-shirts are available again! Also come with the option for a free membership extension with purchase to offset the cost!

    All T-shirt options here!
  • A few of the most common links here on the forums for newbies and guests!

Big drop in RCI TPU for southeast beaches

T

twinmommy19

TUG Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2011
Messages
584
Reaction score
6
Wow RCI really dropped the TPU values for trading into the south east beaches in summer 2015 across the board. Check it out. Certainly not based on 2014 availability as there is almost nothing sitting in inventory.
 
bonk2boy said:
Wow RCI really dropped the TPU values for trading into the south east beaches in summer 2015 across the board. Check it out. Certainly not based on 2014 availability as there is almost nothing sitting in inventory.
Click to expand...

Yes, it looks like almost a 20 TPU drop for a 1 bedroom at SBP in July (from a ridiculous 51 a few months ago down to 30).
 
When you browse only 33+ TPU listings it seems like this was a universal scale back with the exception of Disney World. Very few units going for that high otherwise. In Orlando still holiday weeks going for 50-60 TPUs - some even at non-gold rated properties. I just can't imagine who would ever book those at that price given there are so many nicer places to stay and there is always inventory there(even New Years week).
 
Xmas weeks even in Mexico were in the 30's and Most NYC weeks (except for the glitch last month) are in the 50's. Even some Vegas weeks were low 30's last time I checked and March weeks in Phoenix are in the 30's as well.

That's probably why I ran out of TPU's!
 
Christmas week is severely over valued in certain areas - particularly Orlando. Though a very popular time, there are SO many great options there. I just can't imagine anyone ever burning 50+ TPUs to stay in some non-franchise, non-gold rated resort in Kissimmee.
 
bonk2boy said:
Christmas week is severely over valued in certain areas - particularly Orlando. Though a very popular time, there are SO many great options there. I just can't imagine anyone ever burning 50+ TPUs to stay in some non-franchise, non-gold rated resort in Kissimmee.
Click to expand...

It's the time of year that people have off. If you are a teacher, your travel is limited. Even look at the Thanksgiving weekend for Orlando. Last year, the HGVC's were in the 50's and I think it even tapped out at 60 for the 3BR.

To say "I can't imagine anyone" is a bit far fetched. They either get booked or rented or the TPU values go down. They do get booked so obviously someone wants it bad enough. You couldn't pay me to go to WDW at Xmas, but I know people that go every second year and love it.
 
To say "I can't imagine anyone" is a bit far fetched. They either get booked or rented or the TPU values go down. They do get booked so obviously someone wants it bad enough. You couldn't pay me to go to WDW at Xmas, but I know people that go every second year and love it.
Click to expand...

Okay I guess let me put this another way. There are a total of 37 resorts currently available in RCI weeks inventory that require an exchange fee of more than 33 TPUs for certain weeks. ALL OF THEM are in Orlando which conceptually means (with the exception of locking out and combining deposits) owners everywhere else (even during some in the highest peak times) right now wouldn't have enough trading power on a single exchange to trade into Orlando. I love Disney but how is that not over valued?

I happen to know what comes available on a regular basis in Interval and even Christmas weeks (and definitely Thanksgiving) it isn't hard to get a 2BR Marriott Orlando unit, let alone a unit at a non-franchise. II doesn't usually have much inventory over a year out but even right now I could currently use a crappy 1BR (non-rated) deposit to book a 3BR unit there from 12/20 through 12/27 if I wanted to. In contrast, RCI wants 36 TPUs for New Years week in the same unit.
 
The resort I'm talking about is Cypress Pointe. And I know nothing about this place BTW. It's not a knock on it - just a direct comparison...
 
Remember also that the stuff you see online is only the leftovers, and Orlando has a LOT of inventory. It is entirely possible that there are more exchanges that happened at higher TPU levels, but you just aren't seeing them.
 
Okay never mind there are other locations for more than 37 TPUs. I must have had my search filtered to only Orlando - oops...:ignore: but still... The point I was trying to make is that even in super prime time resorts like Cypress Pointe in Orlando are much much easier to trade into than a beach front resort on the southeast coast during the summer or a ski in / out resort in the winter but trading power doesn't reflect this. That's overvalued.
 
Bnoble - I totally agree. It's possible my Crappy II deposit can only view limited inventory at this current point of time but I do know that within 6 months of check in when my parents are looking to travel Christmas, Easter or February - Orlando is usually one of the few places that has inventory at 6 months out. RCI on he other hand shows full transparency though I admitted I initially messed up the filters on my browse. Seems that the north east beaches like Cape Cod and a few units in metro cities (most platinum plus inventory) are high TPU values too...
 
No, you misunderstand me: it's not the strength of your deposit (RCI lets you see anything, no matter your trade power). Rather: the best exchanges are taken via ongoing search. The things you see when you look by hand on the site are the leftovers.

For example, there isn't all that much summer inventory on the site in, say, HHI. But, it's a relatively easy exchange if you place an ongoing search for it.
 
Yes, RCI overvalues some weeks and undervalues others. Orlando weeks 51 and 52 probably are overvalued. If they don't get taken at the higher level (some probably will) then RCI will eventually drop the tpu's and also add them to the rental pool. They will get taken one way or another.
 
No, you misunderstand me: it's not the strength of your deposit (RCI lets you see anything, no matter your trade power). Rather: the best exchanges are taken via ongoing search. The things you see when you look by hand on the site are the leftovers.
Click to expand...

Yes - I understand this. The point I was making was in response to what gnorth said regarding the high demand for the holiday season in Orlando. No matter how you look at it - it isn't hard at all to trade into Cypress Pointe and other resorts like that one in Orlando even over a holiday week. I know this because I could use a non-rated (not gold or silver) one bedroom week in II right now to confirm a 3 BR unit there over Christmas 2015. And from past experience, I know that as it gets closer to check in (say 6 months or so out) II generally has even more selection available in open inventory for Orlando resorts. That was the point I was making and it's simply not the case for any other desirable area during their prime season (beach, ski, etc.) I do understand that resorts in other locations for both RCI and II get taken by ongoing searches.
 
But you can't always compare II to RCI. II undervalues studios. I have a Branson summer 1 br that can traditionally see more than a Park City week 51 studio.

And supply and demand for whatever reason isn't the only consideration. I once owned a week 25 premier/gold crown Scottish week. It was multi affiliated. In II the same week in a non rated NC mountain resort had more pull and always saw almost 25% more. It received 23 tpu's from RCI. When depositing in DAE, RCI, and II 12 months in advance it never hit online availability but was taken by ongoing searches. In all 3 companies the best I could get within a 10 hour drive of the mid atlantic would be a summer Williamsburg unit. At least in RCI I could combine with something else to get more.
 
RCI Deposit Calculator Broken

How did you see what the TPU is? I haven't been able to check my values for months...I just tried again and neither Chrome, Firfox or IE work.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top