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thanks. I am asking about KBC because it is on my potential lists to request for. the other resort is the marriott ocean club. I too am trying for a 2009 summer week at maui, except I am looking for two consecutive maui weeks,

KBC weeks (not a lot) have been showing fairly regularly on RCI for the last month. The weeks that have been available were May 2008 weeks. The ones that are showing up now are early June 2008 weeks. So if the trend continues, you could probably see July 2008 weeks about a month from now. If you're looking for 2009, then I'd expect to start seeing them next year around this time or in Feb 2009.
 

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Seven things come to mind right away, but there are more:

1. KBC offers daily tidy service and a mid-week full maid cleaning, the others do not;

2. KBC offers a free daily buffet breakfast for everyone in the room at a reasonable charge, the others do not;

3. The pool has a deep end, the others' pools do not;

4. There is a beach in front of the resort year round, the others have a beach only during some parts of the year;

5. The beds at the Westin were the most comfortable and upscale, but the KBC's beds are miles ahead of the ones at the Marriott;

6. The balconies were large enough to enjoy -- you could sit on them and watch the ocean, while the balconies at the Westin were so small you could barely stand on them. The balconies at the Marriott were comparable to the ones at the KBC;

7. You can always find space around the pool, and the staff is good about enforcing the "no reserving the chairs all day by putting a towel on it" rule. At the Westin and Marriott, you can virtually never find a chair around the pool that is not reserved all day with a towel that is never used, and the staff will not clear the chairs.

Edit: In addition, KBC has close and convenient markets and non-resort restaurants. So close, in fact, that you could walk or get there within 2-3 minutes by car. The other two both are a trek to the Safeway at the cannery mall or the Star Market next to the KBC, and decent and reasonable restaurants are not as close. KBC also has free shuttle service to and from the Kapalua airport. The others do not.


Hoc, thanks for the info. I assume there is a charge for the daily tidy service? Can you clarify where to go pick up groceries? Any reasonablly priced restaurants you would recommend near KBC?
 

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KBC weeks (not a lot) have been showing fairly regularly on RCI for the last month. The weeks that have been available were May 2008 weeks. The ones that are showing up now are early June 2008 weeks. So if the trend continues, you could probably see July 2008 weeks about a month from now. If you're looking for 2009, then I'd expect to start seeing them next year around this time or in Feb 2009.

thanks.

Check out and report back on the bedding please. It's been reported that new mgmt wants to put in better duvets - seems like a top priority and a good night sleep is one of the top things on my list as well!
 

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Hoc, thanks for the info. ...Any reasonablly priced restaurants you would recommend near KBC?
I am certain HOC can give you some really nice places to eat, where the locals go! He did me up on our Oahu trip last month :D
 

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Hoc, thanks for the info. I assume there is a charge for the daily tidy service? Can you clarify where to go pick up groceries? Any reasonablly priced restaurants you would recommend near KBC?

No, there is no charge for the daily tidy service. That is what makes it better than the Marriott or the Westin, as they offer tidy service, but only for an additional fee, and full service for an additional fee, as well.

I would pick up groceries at the Star Market across the street. Also, I heartily recommend Honokowai Deli for an excellent plate lunch/dinner that is of the quality of any top Maui restaurant, for a reasonable price. Best to get it to go and eat it back at the resort, as the restaurant itself has no ambiance. Particularly good is their Lemon Caper Mahimahi.
 

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I am certain HOC can give you some really nice places to eat, where the locals go! He did me up on our Oahu trip last month :D

Also heartily recommended for food on Maui (but not near Lahaina or Kaanapali) are:

Mama's Fish House in Paia. Amazing food, fresh fish, very expensive.

Paia Fish Market in Paia. Fresh fish, you sit on long wooden benches at long wooden tables with the other locals, but you get really fresh fish for a much lower price than at Mama's.

Eskimo Candy in Kihei. Great fresh fish to go, and plate lunches with fresh fish. Take them away to the nearby beach or elsewhere, otherwise you'll be sitting on a crowded wooden table outside the shop with many others, next to the trash cans and swatting flies. Take it away from there so you can appreciate the quality.

The spectacular Sunday brunch at the Maui Prince, very expensive, is the best on the island and has live Hawaiian music, to boot. They try (unsuccessfully) to enforce a dress code for men, who are supposed to wear a shirt with a collar. Half the men there wear T-shirts, and many of the men wear shorts. Brunch was great, and bring a bag with your towel and swim wear, as the beach in front of the resort, with chaise lounges, is a great place to catch a nap and maybe take a swim after brunch.

Cheeseburger in Paradise, in Lahaina, is fairly reasonably priced, and a good burger. On the water, but you probably won't get a seat at the window on the water. Upstairs at night they have live music.

Aloha Mix Plate, in Lahaina across from the cannery mall, does a decent plate lunch or dinner for not too much money. In the evening, you will hear the music from the Old Lahaina Luau, which is next door, and if you go at sunset, you are sitting in the open air, on the water, watching the sunset with the music from next door as entertainment.

Sansei has great, fresh sushi and late at night (I think after 11) they serve much of it at half price. Located in Kaanapali and in Kihei.

Wei Wei in Wailuku is pretty much a local "greasy spoon," but they are famous for their Maui Dry Mein, for which Maui is famous. While you are in Wailuku, swing by the Homemaid Bakery, which makes wonderful, fresh mochi or crispy manju every hour, filled with the traditional red beans or black beans, but also coconut, pineapple, peanut butter, apples, or a bevvy of other local fillings. Their banana bread is also good.

Long's Drugs (in the cannery mall and at several other locations all over the island) sells a lot of Homemaid Bakery items, but they are fresher at the bakery, and Long's usually runs out of all the good stuff within minutes of opening.

BTW, on the subject of banana bread: On the Keanae penninsula, along the road to Hana, there is a shack right next to the beach that makes (in my opinion) the best banana bread on the island. But they usually sell out around noon or 1 pm, so get there earlier than that. I was told that there is a yellow house, a bit closer to Kahului (about 7 miles into the road) that has been converted to a shop, and its banana bread is also wonderful. I did not get a chance to try it this trip.

For the room, you can stop by the Farmer's markets (there's a big one in Kahului on Saturdays, a smaller one between Lahaina and Kaanapali on Sundays, and one in Paia on Mondays -- most of the same merchants go to all of them), and pick up some wonderful local jams and jellies (mango, coconut, pineapple, lilikoi, guava, mixes, and many more, as well as butters made with these fruits). Also at the farmers markets are nice smelling soaps that utilize island fragrances, and local fruits and vegetables. And, of course, crafts and clothing that are ubiquitous on Maui, but cheaper at the farmers markets.

While on Maui, try some Shave Ice. If you find a place that has mochi balls and puts sweetened condensed milk on the top on request, you've found a good one. My preference is for Waiola Store on Oahu, but it's not as famous as some of the other places (hence, no line).

Longhi's is hyped, but I ate there twice and found it incredibly, indescribably bad both times. Fish was really old, sauces were bad, and nothing was cooked right.

David Paul's restaurant in Lahaina was also mediocre and overpriced.

And, for gosh sake, don't eat at the same places you eat on the mainland. You can get Ruth's Chris, Bubba Gump's, Subway or Hard Rock Cafe food anytime you want without going to Maui -- the product is standardized, so get it back home.

In the parking lot of the Honokowai Deli is a taco truck that's been getting a lot of buzz lately. Smelled good, but we didn't have time to try it while we were there this time.

There's a small, local diner in Wailuku called Tasty Crust that is well known by locals for its pancakes and breakfasts. They will serve pancakes with peanut butter on them for which some folks will kill.

In the Maui Mall is Guri Guri Sherbet, which has been there since I was a little boy. People would travel from Honolulu to Kahului just for a cup of the sherbet. I never found it particularly appealing, but it has grown on me in my later years. More like an asian ice cream, it's not as sweet as traditional American Sherbets.

Also, while on Maui, get some apple bananas from the market. They are unlike any banana you've ever tried. And if you have not tried pineapple in Hawaii, you are in for a treat. Expect to overeat it, and go home with a mouth full of acid sores.

Pacific'O (in Lahaina) and its sister restaurant, I'o (at the Maalaea Harbor) are also very good and very expensive, but I personally would drive the extra 25 minutes to get to Mama's if I were craving a good, fresh, expensive fish dinner.

Edit: I meant to add Haliimaile General Store (I think it's in Kula). I've never eaten there, but many of the Maui locals say it's really good.
 
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Just a couple of clarifications from an owner at the Westin Maui: there is a charge for daily maid service at the WKORV, but the mid-week tidy service is free and included in your stay. Do most timeshares have daily free maid service?

I could be wrong, but I believe HOC stayed in studio lock-off, and that side does only have a small balcony that he described, but the other side of the lock-off/2 bdm. has a lanai with 2 chairs and a table. The ocean front and deluxe lock-off studio's have a full balcony, as well.
 

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Just a couple of clarifications from an owner at the Westin Maui: there is a charge for daily maid service at the WKORV, but the mid-week tidy service is free and included in your stay. Do most timeshares have daily free maid service?

I could be wrong, but I believe HOC stayed in studio lock-off, and that side does only have a small balcony that he described, but the other side of the lock-off/2 bdm. has a lanai with 2 chairs and a table. The ocean front and deluxe lock-off studio's have a full balcony, as well.

Yes, I stayed in a studio lock off. KBC has daily free tidy service, and a free mid-week full clean, as well as a full balcony for both the bedroom and living room. Both the Westin and the Marriott have a free mid-week tidy service, but full service or daily tidy service requires a charge.

Edit: also, if I recall correctly, the "tidy service" at the Westin was not up to par and I had to call and complain in order to get a real service. I think they were supposed to change your sheets mid-week at the Westin, but they did not until I complained, and Westin would not change the towels, because they reminded me that we had a washer in the room and could wash our own towels (that said, neither the Marriott nor the KBC had washers in the rooms). At the Marriott, they don't change your sheets at all during the week, except for a charge.

Most non-Marriott timeshares in which I have stayed have free daily tidy service and towel exchange, and quite a few of them also have free daily maid service.
 
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What is the nicest resort in Lahaina that will trade with rci ?

It's helpful to know what your personality is.

  1. Do you prefer megaresorts or boutique hotels?
  2. Is a great pool, workout room, and/or spa really important?
  3. Are you turned off by crowds?
  4. Is free local transportation important?
  5. Do you care how big your room is?
  6. Is a full kitchen and washer/dryer essential?
  7. Are you more into privacy or high energy?
  8. What's more important: the view or the amenities?

Personally, I'd go with the Valley Isle if I were traveling with my husband or another couple. It looks nice and will be much more private and romantic. I don't really give a rat's tail about the pool, though I realize other people do. And you have a good chance of having an outstanding view.

If I was going with the kids, I'd stay at the KBC. The pool is great, the location is less remote and you'll have a nice size room with a full kitchen and washer dryer. The downside is that it's big.

Marriott would be my last choice simply because they are converted hotel rooms and feel it. They didn't have the space or wiring to retrofit full kitchens and washers/dryers into the original buildings, so that is the deal breaker for me. However, they do have an incredible location right in the middle of resort row on Kaanaapali Beach. So if you're high energy and have no problems with crowds, this is a great place. They also enjoy a great paved oceanfront path which makes walking/jogging to other resorts a snap.
 

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When does the beach in front of either the Westin or the Marriott vanish?

It was gone in front of the Marriott when I was there in September. It was back when I was there over Christmas. I am told that it migrates from one area to the other, depending on the season.
 

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Marriott would be my last choice simply because they are converted hotel rooms and feel it.

That is another huge downside to the Marriott. The construction is cheap, and you can tell. When we were there two weeks ago, it felt like buffalo were walking on our ceiling every night at about midnight, when the guests above us got in.
 

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Seven things come to mind right away, but there are more:

1. KBC offers daily tidy service and a mid-week full maid cleaning, the others do not;

2. KBC offers a free daily buffet breakfast for everyone in the room at a reasonable charge, the others do not;

1--When did you stay at the KBC when they offered free daily tidy service? Did you have to ask for it? I've stayed there a couple of times & never had any free daily cleanup.

2--Free daily buffet for a reasonable cost??:confused:
 

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Free daily buffet for a reasonable cost??:confused:

Oops. I guess that's kind of like those folks who say you get a "FREE X" when it's really, buy 1, get 1 free. We paid $60 for the week, and all four of us got to eat the daily breakfast buffet with no further charge. Also, the buffet included (in addition to the hot items, which were only average, anyway) tons of fruit and yogurt, as well as cereals, breads, biscuits, bagels and other items which we took up to our room and stored in the fridge for snacking all day.

We were there in about 2004, but I just toured again a couple of weeks ago, and the rooms were updated and beautiful.
 

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Marriott would be my last choice simply because they are converted hotel rooms and feel it. They didn't have the space or wiring to retrofit full kitchens and washers/dryers into the original buildings, so that is the deal breaker for me. However, they do have an incredible location right in the middle of resort row on Kaanaapali Beach. So if you're high energy and have no problems with crowds, this is a great place. They also enjoy a great paved oceanfront path which makes walking/jogging to other resorts a snap.


This is not the case with all of the MOC. The new Lahaina Villas definitely are not of the retrofit variety. For me, the deal-breaker with them was that the studio side was *very* small and did not have the w/d and kitchen area that the Westin does. The 1BR side of the l/o was quite nice, however.
 

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.... We paid $60 for the week, and all four of us got to eat the daily breakfast buffet with no further charge. ...We were there in about 2004, but I just toured again a couple of weeks ago, and the rooms were updated and beautiful.

Charges for breakfast buffett are now as follows:
13 years old and above $13/day
6 - 12 yo $7/day
5 yo and under $0

Other misc charges.
Parking = $13/day for non-KBC owners
State Occupancy tax (approx $6.60 for 2BD, $4.60 for 1BD)

HOC - have all rooms been updated as far as you can tell? Is it the more modern look (marble countertops, etc.) ?

If not all rooms have been upgraded, do you know what the upgrade schedule looks like?

Do the upgraded rooms now include stove top/oven units? How about washing machines in the unit?
 

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Sorry, the KBC has neither a full size kitchen

nor a washer dryer in suite.:(

The suites are tiny, and unless they have changed the door to the bathroom was just a jalousie screen, no privacy at all :doh:

The kitchen was just a microwave, coffee pot, and a couple of dishes, no cooking equipment of any type, with a tiny sink and no dishwasher or dishwashing stuff:annoyed:

There are some full kitchen resorts, like the Valley Isle, Papakea, Hololani, and a few others, that have all the items you discussed, but they aren't in the luxury class of the Westin, MOC, or KBC.

fwiw, Greg



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[*]Is a full kitchen and washer/dryer essential?

If I was going with the kids, I'd stay at the KBC. The pool is great, the location is less remote and you'll have a nice size room with a full kitchen and washer dryer. The downside is that it's big.
 

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Aliikai, you're right. I must have been confusing the KBC units with the Kaanapali Alii units.

Sorry for the misinformation.
 

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Hoc, thanks for the big list of recommendations
 

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HOC, thanks for the best comparison with real facts that I have seen on TUG. I have now been tempted to look at a week at KBC since your choice of it over the other resorts was concise and with facts that owners at other Maui resorts find hard to refute.

Do you have similar feelings about a resort(s) on Kauai or the big island of Hawaii?
 

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Do you have similar feelings about a resort(s) on Kauai or the big island of Hawaii?

No, I haven't been to Kauai in 20 years, nor the Big Island in 30. But I will be getting there soon. . .
 

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HOC - have all rooms been updated as far as you can tell? Is it the more modern look (marble countertops, etc.) ?

If not all rooms have been upgraded, do you know what the upgrade schedule looks like?

Do the upgraded rooms now include stove top/oven units? How about washing machines in the unit?

I don't know. I just know that the unit I saw looked very modern and nice. I didn't pay attention to details, since I was just trying to get out of there and get my $200 as quickly as possible. But thinking back, I do think that the unit I saw had a marble countertop, and I kind of remember it having a full kitchen. I did not pay attention to washing machines, as there was one on every other floor when I stayed there several years ago. The unit I saw was much, much nicer than the non-upgraded one I had in 2004.
 

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The best on Kauai and the Big Island

HOC, thanks for the best comparison with real facts that I have seen on TUG. I have now been tempted to look at a week at KBC since your choice of it over the other resorts was concise and with facts that owners at other Maui resorts find hard to refute.

Do you have similar feelings about a resort(s) on Kauai or the big island of Hawaii?

On Kauai, there are four timeshare resorts that are in the same class as the three focussed on here: The Point, a sister resort to the KBC; Marriott Waiohai, as nice as any Marriott I have ever stayed in or toured; Hanalei Bay Resort, with rooms that may not be quite up to par, but with a view that is second to none... that is second to none on earth; and Shearwater, sitting right on the cliffs overlooking the ocean. Pick the Waiohai if you want the nicest rooms and a killer beach. Pick the Hanalei Bay Resort if you want a killer view. Pick the Shearwater if you want to hear the ocean roar (disclaimer: the Shearwater has decent rooms and a great location, but the resort seems a bit tight... the complex is smaller and the buildings are very close to each other). Pick The Point if you can't get the other three. It has nice rooms, an nice pool, located near shops and restaurants, and a nice shoreline. I should point out that the Waiohai is the only one with a beach directly on the propery. HBR has access to a beautiful beach just a short walk down the hill... close enough for me to consider it part of the resort in my own mind. The Point sits next door to the Hyatt and the fronting beach, but has a rocky shore of its own... makes for a nice shore stroll. Staying at the Shearwater will require a short drive or long walk to a beach.

On the Big Island, there is one or should I say one complex with three timeshare resorts. Hilton has them all at Waikoloa.

I am staying at the Hanalei Bay Resort right now (a little change of plans for those who may have been paying detailed attention to my other posts on tug, not an error), and will be staying at The Point later this month.
 
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Check out and report back on the bedding please. It's been reported that new mgmt wants to put in better duvets - seems like a top priority and a good night sleep is one of the top things on my list as well!

No duvets here. Not that I think it's needed at this resort. It'd be a waste because they would be too warm.

The beds have the standard pink hotel blanket and then a floral bedcover on it. With the tempatures here in Maui, I could see most people not using a duvet as it would be far too warm.

However, the mattress on the king bed is very comfy. We definitely slept well on our first night.
 
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